About the etyomology of "fusianasan":
http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1102656968/224-
>>157
So the functions need to be hardcoded to a post element one way or another? If I wanted to, let's say, create a template for gazo-box or Shiichan (both use checkboxes for sage), I'd need to slightly modify kareha.pl to check that new checkbox input instead of the Link string input?
An interesting limitation. Thanks for explaining.
About permasaging/deleting after a certain thread filesize is reached: would this be the same as a limit on the total number of characters in a thread? Or would we also include WakabaMark formatting, hyperlinks (including navigation), name/date/title headers, reply boxes, and non-Unicode characters in the formula?
>>158
Chances are that most if not all major/fundamental changes made to Kareha's core scripts will clash with the philosophy of most people here (including WAHa), and they won't care for them anyway. There really aren't all that many big-bang end-user features left to be implemented in Kareha before it loses its minimalist charm.
P.S. Reminder for >>85
>>157
So the functions need to be hardcoded to a post element one way or another? If I wanted to, let's say, create a template for gazo-box or Shiichan (both use checkboxes for sage), I'd need to slightly modify kareha.pl to check that new checkbox input instead of the Link string input?
An interesting limitation. Thanks for explaining.
About permasaging/deleting after a certain thread filesize is reached: would this be the same as a limit on the total number of characters in a thread? Or would we also include WakabaMark formatting, hyperlinks (including navigation), name/date/title headers, reply boxes, and non-Unicode characters in the formula?
>>158
Chances are that most if not all major/fundamental changes made to Kareha's core scripts will clash with the philosophy of most people here (including WAHa), and they won't care for them anyway. There really aren't all that many big-bang end-user features left to be implemented in Kareha before it loses its minimalist charm.
P.S. Reminder for >>85
Oh, and the navigation bar on the error page should probably look like the one on the thread page.
More information on the all threads page, date of the last post? file size?
A quote button that puts >>n and puts the post prefixed by > in the reply box
Different secret strings for different functions (e.g. one for ID generation and one for secure tripcodes)
All right, a beta version with some new features is now installed for this board. It implements a couple of bug fixes, and navigational and 2ch-style improvements suggested in this thread. Try it out, and complain about stuff that doesn't work or doesn't make sense.
I also put in customizable capcodes now. You can define a string of arbitary HTML for the capcode, so you can put whatever kind of fagginess you want in there! Hooray! Try this out by posting with #test.
The good old test thread is still here: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1099697376/
> Why not make None or Text Art the default?
Because >>309. I don't want to implement half of WakabaMark for the None mode, and without it you don't get stuff like quote highlighting.
> Also, can you make >> links into anchors('#') when you're on the reply/entire thread page, especially in Wakaba?
Er, that is exactly how Wakaba works right now? And Kareha can't change the contents of posts dynamically, so it'll never do it.
> To more closely resemble the 2ch look, how about prefixing thread title headers in the main board page with a 【position:postcount】thingie?
2channel does not do this either by default. It can make browsing a bit more convenient (and I suspect dedicated 2channel browsers to insert & read these in some kind of standardized way) but I don't think that's reason enough to impose it on users by default.
> Of course, this could get screwy if you're using reverse order and out-of-order posts in the URL, so I dunno how well it could be implemented.
Personally, I find the reverse order listing, as well as the random order listing, to be a bit silly & useless. The only useful bonus feature here seems to be the comma range seperator, but it seems even in that case there is not much benefit to it (saves 1-3 links in the average case that it is needed, which is rare to begin with).
> The "First 100" link should also be removed from the bottom of individual thread pages, and there should be a link to to thread-list included below the reply box of each previewed thread on the front page.
signed
> In order for the CSS selector not to take over the entire header, how about turning it into a drop-down menu?
This was proposed before (long time ago) and it is hereby also signed.
> and would something like this work (given that all boards share the same root directory)?
That's a tricky bit and I think it was decided against because it would be too much work to properly maintain such a function at the time when 4chan implemented it.
I can't reproduce this on Firefox 1.0.4 nor Safari on the Mac, but that ancient Firebird had a similar problem (but even worse).
Anyone else? Try post with a | in your name.
>>151 It's all public domain, I believe.
>>n74,76
It's good for referencing replies, too.
The "always show the first post" behaviour is sort of confusing at first. It seems more intrusive than useful.
>>Well, then you are out of luck, aren't you? So you want to enter your E-Mail but cannot because then the post wouldn't bump then? Solution: Write it in the comment field, problem fixed.
There is no reason to change well-known keywords for this or even turn this into a frustratingly unconvenient tickbox/checkbox.
Having a specific trigger to trigger ID would also work.
>discussion of only one comment box, then you couldn't talk about sage/fusianasan/whatever
You could only trigger the functions in a specific format, say
:link-sage
:name-blah#faggotlol commentI do not believe this was an actual request, but it is obviously possible and usable. Another way would be escaping keywords that you want to post.
> partition to kill secure tripcodes
Why? If you are going to get rid of secure tripcodes you should get rid of tripcodes by the same reasons. On another note, why have I seen partition instead of petition multiple times?
>So I misspelled one word once. Sue me!
My point was that it is unnesessarily obtuse, not nit-picking that you misspelled it.
>This is a widely used system. There is a very low learning curve here. sage = does not bump thread when replying, that's all there is to know. People can then figure out why it is useful on their own.
You would think there is a low learning curve, but that is not really the case. For example, on an imageboard, what effect do you have making a sage post (with no real content) with prune oldest and a permasage limit? What about prune oldest with a permasage limit that excludes sage replies?
>trigger replacements
I'm not sure what to replace sage with, if anything. Down certainly doesn't describe it (to me it implies the reverse of age, which is not the case). don't_bump or dont_bump? show_host or show_ip works for fusianasan imo... show_ID to trigger ID?
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> Why?
I am not the user who initiated this parition but I find them to be triggered far too often.
> On another note, why have I seen partition instead of petition multiple times?
An old imageboard meme. Don't ask!
Some minor things
1) rename the RENZOKU constants to something that makes sense
2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
I think a checkbox works better than putting something in the link field, but that can always be left as working too. It would be nice to know if the name is underlined that it has something other than sage rather than putting the cursor over it and reading the status bar. Strip things from the email field, append (sage) to the Name line?
One of the things I did when I modified and restructured the order of functions in post_stuff() was add specific error messages for each non-comment field. Would this be considered superfluous?
Oh, and "AA mode" should be changed to "Text art mode" so we won't be incessantly quibbling about the difference between ASCII and SJIS art.
What about a(n) (optional) preview page? It would be nice, especially with the multiple formating options. It also allows most of the benefits of being able to edit posts, without being able to edit posts. I don't know how often I've screw up a quote because it didn't look like multiple lines but it was.
Is there a reason why the post box is so small and pushed to the side?
Forced fusianasan would be fine I think, if they had advanced warning.
I vote yes, but that is obvious isn't it?
I found this:
fusianasan【ふしあなさん】[名・自スル]
2ちゃんねるに書き込みする際に名前欄に「fusianasan」の文字列を入力すると、その書き込みをした人のリモートホストのIPアドレスがさらされるようになっている。
本来は「(固定ハンドル)@fusianasan」などとして、まだキャップを取得していない固定ハンドルが自らIPをさらすことで騙りを防ぐためのシステムである。
が、裏2ちゃん関係のコピペが横行するに至って、一時期うっかりIPをさらしてしまう。
エロな人間が続出し、fusianasan廃止要望まで唱えられるに至った(当然却下されたが)。
IPをさらすことだけによる危険は、そのIPから手元で使用中のコンピュータを一意に特定でき
(ex:グローバルIPによる常時接続)、かつプロキシ・サーバー、ファイヤーウォールなどの防御策を怠っている場合にしか及ばないので、
fusianasanに引っかかったからといって実はそこまで神経質になることもなかったりする。
……過去にIPから仕事中に政府機関から2ちゃんねるにつないで裏2ちゃんに入ろうとしていた愚か者が釣れてさらされたという事例はあるが。
なお、現在では一部の板でデフォルトの名無しさん(名前欄未記入時の名前)が「fusianasanさん」などfusianasanを含む名前となっている場合がある。
また、串の性能を試すために敢えて裏2ちゃんに引っかかっていると思われる強者もちらほら見受けられる。
類義語:mokorikomo
参照:裏2ちゃん、キャップ