The Legendary Next Update (365)
81 Name: &height=16)
2005-10-17 09:29 ID:Heaven
n is implemented, but not for >> yet.
Also, >>1 is, as it is, only added to URLs of the form xx-yy and lxx. 2ch doesn't add >>1 for single-reply URLs, and if you're using commas, I figure you can add >>1 yourself if you want it. I'm not sure if this is the best behaviour, but that's how it works at the moment.
338 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-27 05:06 ID:Heaven
> I don't understand the argument for OH NO ANOTHER BUTTON MY WHOLE LIFE IS RUINNED crowd
It's all a design & layout question. I'd like to have the interface reduced to what is absolutely neccessary, esp. since I do not think many people really want to even bother or bother very often with the whole markup question.
> The replacement will be an option to select the default markup for a board, which makes much more sense overall.
I agree, this seems to make the most sense. I understand the "More options..." will not be showing up on boards with fixed settings, so I'll shut my mouth from now on. Apologies to all who I've been bothering.
121 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 05:31 ID:Heaven
I almost forgot this:
For thread-closing, it would be nice if Kareha would post a last post, telling the thread is now over and closed (with some default message that can be customized for each board), akin to the 0ch 1001th post behaviour.
287 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 19:25 ID:Heaven
Oh, and the navigation bar on the error page should probably look like the one on the thread page.
139 Name: 2005-10-18 20:03 ID:gBva8ggI
You can't document easter eggs! That's crazy talk!
Also, I find it insanely more annoying to write text in five-line tunnel vision than whatever annoyance might be caused by a comment box that expands.
83 Name: 2005-10-17 12:09 ID:Heaven
Oh yeah, regarding the CSS selector: HTML dropdowns aren't styleable, and will look like shit. I'll look into using some other trickery for that, though.
218 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-21 15:22 ID:Heaven
>> More information on the all threads page, date of the last post? file size?
Well, I had already proposed the filesize indicator in >>208, but optimally I would actually prefer that subback resemble the one in 0ch (ie, same as the main page thread list, but without CSS).
And single-post links don't include the thread's first post anyway, so there's no need for >>n. Quoting an entire post is not wise either.
>Isn't this essentially the same as saying "Please don't talk so much?"
In a sense, yes. Just like the postcount limit could be interpreted as "Please don't talk so long".
>what
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Question: does Kareha have a 1001th post message like "Name: 1001:Over 1000 Thread" for when a thread exceeds its postcount limit?
93 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-10-17 14:00 ID:Heaven
>>91 Ohshi-, time paradox!
356 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-28 20:05 ID:Heaven
I'm not sure I want to make a ban system. I'd rather just make it easy to interface with a simple banning script that does whatever's needed for the server it's running on.
213 Name: 2005-10-21 14:44 ID:Heaven
> More information on the all threads page, date of the last post? file size?
That might be somewhat useful, I suppose. I'll have a look at it.
> A quote button that puts >>n and puts the post prefixed by > in the reply box
There's already a way to put in >>n. However, quoting an entire post is seldom something you want to do anyway, so I don't think that's worth cluttering up the page with a million buttons for.
> Different secret strings for different functions (e.g. one for ID generation and one for secure tripcodes)
Most admins probably don't get point of the secret string anyway, and asking them to put in several is just too annoying. In retrospect, I'd like to add a second layer of hashing to these, but that'd mean breaking secure trips AGAIN.
> A trigger for turning wakabamark off and one for forcing a monospace font
I've been trying to work out a more elegant solution for this.
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199 Name: 2005-10-20 18:25 ID:Heaven
> Right, I guess it was dumb to mention 0ch/Futaba in the first place. The point is, as you said yourself, tripcodes are a gimmick, and if someone wants to maintain a persistent identity across multiple boards and sites (ie, everyone here with a tripcode), they have no choice but to use ordinary tripcodes. Secure tripcodes are useless because they limit your identity to a single board, supposing each board/site's cipher key is different -- which it should be, since that's the point of having a secure tripcode in the first place. No one should be so paranoid about a tripcode that they'd need to have a different one per board/site.
True, they're of limited usefulness, but people like admins might prefer to use them. And there are certain cases were you might use them temporarily for various purposes. I wrote the code already, so I might as well leave it in. It has some uses at least.
> Shouldn't we sacrifice some backwards compatibility for a more robust and scalable design? It might even be possible to provide an upgrade.pl for old threads.
I think I'm too lazy to do it. It's kind of hairy. Besides, as I said, you can remove a lot of the drawbacks of seprate installations by using symlinks.
233 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-21 22:16 ID:Heaven
>>232
Nothing! But since mode_image's footer.html includes a link to Futaba called "Futaba mode," I think mode_message should have the same.
99 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 14:50 ID:Heaven
I've returned from the world of the dead, with old forgotten...suggestions! http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1109447905/l50
>-Scaleable administration (ie, [variable permissions for different passwords])
>-Forcenick and/or force anon for [specified IPs]
165 Name: Shii the Metal Idol 2005-10-19 18:13 ID:z/kxsMjQ
> Huh?
You know, like [email protected].
Shiichan 2000 let you enter "down" to sage and "showip" for fusianasan, but it was mainly just a curiosity and was not used. There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage". Better to have a tick-box and explain to people why it is useful. Or an option for it.
> Then the board has to be configurated to just do that (it already can).
No, 148 is referring to a user-end problem, not a server-end problem.
43 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 16:31 ID:Heaven
PS: I always wanted to say this: The # anchors on the TiddlyWiki automatically scroll me (FF, 1.0.7) just below the actual text box of the entry. Is that a bug, a feature or... ?
114 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 03:16 ID:Heaven
>>110
Happened to me, too, sometimes it goes black, sometimes it goes white. Screen reappears if you just scroll up a bit but it's still strange.
167 Name: 2005-10-19 18:55 ID:gBva8ggI
Oh:
> Getting back to inconsequential nitpicking: I find the "___ image replies omitted" phrase to be a bit redundant, and for one it confuses me as to whether or not those image replies are separate from text-only replies. How about simply calling it "images"?
Yes, that's a great idea, which is why I've always done just that. You're thinking of 4chan.
129 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 17:18 ID:Heaven
Damn, I was about to plug >>96 when I saw you uploaded the new version. Thanks for listening WAHa, you're awesome. :D
(Does this work like rules.html in mode_image? Is the board title inserted automatically in templates.pl or is it part of that separate html file?)
Already a few nitpicks though: (1) index.html#menu and index.html#1 links should be automatically inserted to the right of the board title (or below if you're looking at it without CSS), and (2) the "Create new thread" title isn't really necessary, since the widget button already explains its function (like with the reply box).
Unrelated: in 2ch thread lists, position numbers are followed by colons, not periods.
231 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-21 21:04 ID:Heaven
How about adding a link to 2ch in footer.html called "2ch mode"?
350 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-28 03:57 ID:Heaven
> Does the CSS selector -really- get in your way?
> Is having the More options thing really ruining your experience,
Yes and yes and I already stated why.
I am sure you know this but text markup takes place on a whole different level than identification/bumping issues. Your comment about pgp signatures is very funny but I will not honour it with a comment.
110 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-10-17 20:22 ID:Heaven (Image: 1024x768 png, 36 kb)
WAHa, WAHa, it's a bug!
Pressed back after creating an error message in karaha (trying to reply to this thread, forgetting to type something in here), refresh does nothing!
198 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 16:35 ID:Heaven
> but when I hit refresh I get the same order.
Browser cache. Try shift-refresh.
It doesn't take a specific range, just >>r30 for 30 random posts.
312 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-24 18:15 ID:Heaven
Not getting quote highlighting is the point, isn't it? I guess if you really want WakabaMark to spread you can force it on everyone who doesn't know how to change, but it would be nicer to make people choose it so we don't have to constantly see the results of accidental markup. This is more about social engineering than your program, though.
37 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 13:32 ID:Heaven
Oops, forgot to link the first point to my original thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127326007
Oh, and see if dmpk2k is willing to port over the proxy detection and load-balancing/distributed server cluster functions to Kareha. Those would be neat.
243 Name: 2005-10-22 10:54 ID:Heaven
If you want to have a look at what the code actually does to dig out flaws, here is the current version:
sub sanitize_html($%)
{
my ($html,%tags)=@_;
my (@stack,$clean);
my $entity_re=qr/&(?!\#[0-9]+;|\#x[0-9a-fA-F]+;|amp;)/;
while($html=~/(?:([^<]+)|<([^<>]*)>?)/g)
{
my ($text,$tag)=($1,$2);
if($text)
{
$text=~s/$entity_re/&/g;
$text=~s/>/>/g;
$clean.=$text;
}
else
{
if($tag=~m!^\s*(/?)\s*([a-z0-9_:\-\.]+)(?:\s+(.*?)|)\s*(/?)\s*$!si)
{
my ($closing,$name,$args,$implicit)=($1,lc($2),$3,$4);
if($tags{$name})
{
if($closing)
{
if(grep { $_ eq $name } @stack)
{
my $entry;
do {
$entry=pop @stack;
$clean.="</$entry>";
} until $entry eq $name;
}
}
else
{
my %args;
$args=~s/\s/ /sg;
while($args=~/([a-z0-9_:\-\.]+)(?:\s*=\s*(?:'([^']*?)'|"([^"]*?)"|['"]?([^'" ]*))|)/gi)
{
my ($arg,$value)=(lc($1),defined($2)?$2:defined($3)?$3:$4);
$value=$arg unless defined($value);
my $type=$tags{$name}{args}{$arg};
if($type)
{
my $passes=1;
if($type=~/url/i) { $passes=0 unless $value=~/(?:^$protocol_re:|^[^:]+$)/ }
if($type=~/number/i) { $passes=0 unless $value=~/^[0-9]+$/ }
if($passes)
{
$value=~s/$entity_re/&/g;
if($value=~/"/) { $value="'$value'" }
else { $value="\"$value\"" }
$args{$arg}=$value;
}
}
}
my $cleanargs=join " ",map { "$_=$args{$_}" } keys %args;
$implicit="/" if($tags{$name}{empty});
push @stack,$name unless $implicit;
$clean.="<$name";
$clean.=" $cleanargs" if $cleanargs;
$clean.=" $implicit" if $implicit;
$clean.=">";
}
}
}
}
}
my $entry;
while($entry=pop @stack) { $clean.="</$entry>" }
return $clean;
}