The Legendary Next Update (365)
169 Name: &height=16)
2005-10-19 19:04 ID:Heaven
How come this is now the by far biggest thread on this board?
Maybe it's because I'm posting useless replies like this one!
139 Name: 2005-10-18 20:03 ID:gBva8ggI
You can't document easter eggs! That's crazy talk!
Also, I find it insanely more annoying to write text in five-line tunnel vision than whatever annoyance might be caused by a comment box that expands.
220 Name: 2005-10-21 15:45 ID:Heaven
Kareha can't use different layouts for posts on different pages, except by CSS trickery. I could add the second colon, though.
Also, I've implemented optional thread closing now, but there's no extra post. That would just be a total mess to implement, and would make re-opening threads annoying, if such a feature was requested. It replaces the posting form with a notice that the thread has been closed, instead.
3 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-12 16:58 ID:Heaven
Kareha:
- Conforming of navigation to 0ch standards for conveniency, efficiency, etc., i.e.
- Navigation links also at the bottom of the thread pages
- "First 100" to be replaced with "Next 100" (and "Previous 100") in thread pages
- First post always showing up, even for later quoted ranges. Currently, you can supress this on 0ch by identing "n" before the post range.
- Default l50 links in all lists
- Automated archiving, i.e.
- Automatic thread closing at a configured number of replies and/or thread size (recommended default values: 1000 posts or 512KB)
- Automatic closing and moving of threads that do not get any activity in a certain timeframe (based on average activity frequency of the board)
- Bonus features (not really important):
- Fusianasan (reveal hostname by entering fusianasan or [string] into Name field)
- Customizable Capcodes (please more than just "Admin", perhaps fancy colours)
127 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 16:23 ID:Heaven
Getting back to inconsequential nitpicking: I find the "___ image replies omitted" phrase to be a bit redundant, and for one it confuses me as to whether or not those image replies are separate from text-only replies. How about simply calling it "images"?
347 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-27 16:57 ID:Heaven
Thanks. I did it the hard way and put in the proper transformations everywhere so filenames can be kept intact, though.
47 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 22:48 ID:1l2MEdqn
>>46
Well, I haven't checked to see exactly where the ban functionality exists in Kareha, but my idea is something along the lines of: (1) encrypting the offender's IP, (2) writing it to a bans.txt list, and (3) writing a parameter next to the IP specifying the time when the ban should be lifted. Of course, you also need underlying code to check bans.txt every time a user tries to post or reply, and also to remove a ban entry at its specified time.
313 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-24 18:41 ID:Heaven
Well, I don't want to have to read posts without highlighting. It's annoying. Just for that, I don't want leave it off.
On another topic, a vote: I could make the secure tripcodes and other parts of the script that use the SECRET more secure by some small changes, but this would make secure trips change when you install the new version.
Good idea, y/n?
67 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 06:47 ID:Heaven
The "Entire thread" link on the thread page is missing a "/" at the end.
157 Name: 2005-10-19 14:11 ID:gBva8ggI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Domain
It means anyone can do whatever they want with it. They can't claim copyright, though, since they didn't create it in the first place. They can modify it an claim copyright on their modifications, at least as long as they're significant enough, but that doesn't affect existing works in the public domain.
> This is kinda what I had pushed for earlier in >>52. I think that separating the sage (aka, "don't bump"), fusianasan (aka, "show IP"), and ID:Heaven (aka, "no ID") functions from any particular post elements in the main scripts would be ideal for implementing Kareha in systems where inputting a certain string to trigger these functions is not intuitive (ie, every board outside of the 2ch/Futaba family). These trigger strings (S_DONTBUMP, S_SHOWIP, S_NOID) and their assignment to a certain form field input could be instead implemented individually in each template.
There's no obvious way to do this, since there has to be code that specifically checks a field and takes certain actions long before the template comes into play. It'd take some sort of plugin system to implement it, and I don't think that's quite called for.
Also >>154 is Kami.
99 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 14:50 ID:Heaven
I've returned from the world of the dead, with old forgotten...suggestions! http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1109447905/l50
>-Scaleable administration (ie, [variable permissions for different passwords])
>-Forcenick and/or force anon for [specified IPs]
289 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 19:40 ID:Heaven
Return links are actually not a very good idea. I know some browsers will clear all input fields if you follow a link back to the page you came from, but leave the fields intact if you click the back button.
15 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-13 06:01 ID:Heaven
> Pruning set to furthest-back instead of oldest.
I don't like this one. You just have to continually age a topic (until it hits the permasage treshold) in order for it so survive a long time. Normal users might have good reason to ignore simply it, though...
> Size limit instead of post number limit, maybe?
Sounds good.
> I was thinking of setting the default behaviour to never permasage or close threads.
I guess I don't have a strong opinion on this one. As long as the values will be customizable, I don't really care, I suppose.
Also: I just noticed that "¦" in tripcodes will work correctly but turn into "�U" through the cookie on /soc/ but not on the sandbox.
243 Name: 2005-10-22 10:54 ID:Heaven
If you want to have a look at what the code actually does to dig out flaws, here is the current version:
sub sanitize_html($%)
{
my ($html,%tags)=@_;
my (@stack,$clean);
my $entity_re=qr/&(?!\#[0-9]+;|\#x[0-9a-fA-F]+;|amp;)/;
while($html=~/(?:([^<]+)|<([^<>]*)>?)/g)
{
my ($text,$tag)=($1,$2);
if($text)
{
$text=~s/$entity_re/&/g;
$text=~s/>/>/g;
$clean.=$text;
}
else
{
if($tag=~m!^\s*(/?)\s*([a-z0-9_:\-\.]+)(?:\s+(.*?)|)\s*(/?)\s*$!si)
{
my ($closing,$name,$args,$implicit)=($1,lc($2),$3,$4);
if($tags{$name})
{
if($closing)
{
if(grep { $_ eq $name } @stack)
{
my $entry;
do {
$entry=pop @stack;
$clean.="</$entry>";
} until $entry eq $name;
}
}
else
{
my %args;
$args=~s/\s/ /sg;
while($args=~/([a-z0-9_:\-\.]+)(?:\s*=\s*(?:'([^']*?)'|"([^"]*?)"|['"]?([^'" ]*))|)/gi)
{
my ($arg,$value)=(lc($1),defined($2)?$2:defined($3)?$3:$4);
$value=$arg unless defined($value);
my $type=$tags{$name}{args}{$arg};
if($type)
{
my $passes=1;
if($type=~/url/i) { $passes=0 unless $value=~/(?:^$protocol_re:|^[^:]+$)/ }
if($type=~/number/i) { $passes=0 unless $value=~/^[0-9]+$/ }
if($passes)
{
$value=~s/$entity_re/&/g;
if($value=~/"/) { $value="'$value'" }
else { $value="\"$value\"" }
$args{$arg}=$value;
}
}
}
my $cleanargs=join " ",map { "$_=$args{$_}" } keys %args;
$implicit="/" if($tags{$name}{empty});
push @stack,$name unless $implicit;
$clean.="<$name";
$clean.=" $cleanargs" if $cleanargs;
$clean.=" $implicit" if $implicit;
$clean.=">";
}
}
}
}
}
my $entry;
while($entry=pop @stack) { $clean.="</$entry>" }
return $clean;
} 245 Name: 2005-10-22 10:56 ID:Heaven
Wow, >>243 sure looks like shit in Safari. What the hell? Looks right in Firefox, though.
87 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 12:36 ID:Heaven
Also, I'd like to ask exactly how Kareha does automatically generates deletion passwords. I'm guessing it's similar if not identical to how it creates ID session codes with a user's IP.
11 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-13 01:41 ID:Heaven
>>9
I mentioned the option because on highly active boards it's helpful to know which threads will be gone in the next few minutes.
117 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 04:04 ID:Heaven
>>116
Good question! I tried to find out myself but just found some interesting but rather unhelpful links:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/fusianasan
http://info.2ch.net/guide/faq.html#G5
http://ansitu.xrea.jp/guidance/?FAQ1
326 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-26 19:08 ID:SjmelPTB
> Wait, why should l50 links be indexed/cached?
Because the only way for the search engine to find the old threads is to go through the l50 links. I'm taking the advice of >>322 though.
> The CSS in the All threads page is unsightly. Is there a way to properly wrap the outer color border(s) around the table of threads?
You need to explain what you're talking about before I can do anything about that. What style, and what does "wrap the outer color border(s) around" mean?
> I still say that the "Navigation: " text is extraneous when people can clearly see what the links do. Also still partitioning for 0ch-style error pages (with displayed user host and all).
It's there because freefloating unlabelled links look weird.
> Now that we do have filesize indicators in the backlog page of mode_message, do you still find it useless to have the red bold filesizes near the bottom of thread subpages?
They're there, but only if you enable pruning by size.
> Does mode_message now work in PAGE_GENERATION => 'paged'?
No. I'm too lazy to figure what that's supposed to do, and I don't think anybody actually wants to use that in the first place.
> Idea: forced anonymous/sage/ID/fusianasan by IP/thread/board/whole site (some of these combinations already exist, I know)?
There's no database to keep IP data in, and I'd prefer to keep the script completely agnostic to IP addresses.
> Finally, I imagine that the permasage/close/delete functions in kareha.pl will be easily interchangeable among the conditions in post_stuff(). Can you confirm this?
No, because I don't know what you mean.
313 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-24 18:41 ID:Heaven
Well, I don't want to have to read posts without highlighting. It's annoying. Just for that, I don't want leave it off.
On another topic, a vote: I could make the secure tripcodes and other parts of the script that use the SECRET more secure by some small changes, but this would make secure trips change when you install the new version.
Good idea, y/n?
357 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-31 11:19 ID:Heaven
>>354
admin.pl with a separate HTML page in ./admin (so it can be accessed simply by appending "/admin" to the board URL). It should have every possible admin feature available in kareha.pl, including rebuilding caches, modifying the spamlist, and nuking the board.
108 Name: 34.75.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com 2005-10-17 19:51 ID:Heaven
I thought fusianasan was supposed to be a mod-only function to weed out bad posters. And what would be the difference between revealing the persons's IP and his ISP's domain?
>>99
I didn't mean to include Forcenick in there, sorry.
Adding to that, however, how about forced sage for specificed IPs? It'd make for a great slogan: Remember kids, tripcodes and aging are privileges, not rights!
167 Name: 2005-10-19 18:55 ID:gBva8ggI
Oh:
> Getting back to inconsequential nitpicking: I find the "___ image replies omitted" phrase to be a bit redundant, and for one it confuses me as to whether or not those image replies are separate from text-only replies. How about simply calling it "images"?
Yes, that's a great idea, which is why I've always done just that. You're thinking of 4chan.