Suggestion / Request
Making "More options..." an option in the configs.
Seems sensible, when you already have the ability to turn off WakabaMark as a board admin. Also, it will make me stop whining (a bit).
And my post ist a good example for chosing the wrong markup :/
>database redesign
You mean requiring SQL software, or just making backwards-incompatible changes that would screw up old threads?
>prevent abuse
Are you only referring to flooding and spamming, or also trolls and flamewars?
Finally, out of curiosity: how much of the functionality in the .js file do you think could be properly implemented into a new or existing perl script?
> What about a(n) (optional) preview page?
I've been considering that, but it's a goddamn pain to implement. It'd be pretty useful, though. Also, it could include the spell checker someone requested way back at the beginning of time.
Oh, and the navigation bar on the error page should probably look like the one on the thread page.
>>157
So the functions need to be hardcoded to a post element one way or another? If I wanted to, let's say, create a template for gazo-box or Shiichan (both use checkboxes for sage), I'd need to slightly modify kareha.pl to check that new checkbox input instead of the Link string input?
An interesting limitation. Thanks for explaining.
About permasaging/deleting after a certain thread filesize is reached: would this be the same as a limit on the total number of characters in a thread? Or would we also include WakabaMark formatting, hyperlinks (including navigation), name/date/title headers, reply boxes, and non-Unicode characters in the formula?
>>158
Chances are that most if not all major/fundamental changes made to Kareha's core scripts will clash with the philosophy of most people here (including WAHa), and they won't care for them anyway. There really aren't all that many big-bang end-user features left to be implemented in Kareha before it loses its minimalist charm.
P.S. Reminder for >>85
PS: I just tested fusianasan + tripcode on 2ch, it works fine.
The "Entire thread" link on the thread page is missing a "/" at the end.
>>220
I meant only using the extra post for autoclose situations where the thread has exceeded the defined postcount limit in config.pl. As for the implementation, couldn't you just have Kareha use post_stuff() and (somehow) replace the timestamp with "Over XXXX Thread"?
> Wait, why should l50 links be indexed/cached?
Because the only way for the search engine to find the old threads is to go through the l50 links. I'm taking the advice of >>322 though.
> The CSS in the All threads page is unsightly. Is there a way to properly wrap the outer color border(s) around the table of threads?
You need to explain what you're talking about before I can do anything about that. What style, and what does "wrap the outer color border(s) around" mean?
> I still say that the "Navigation: " text is extraneous when people can clearly see what the links do. Also still partitioning for 0ch-style error pages (with displayed user host and all).
It's there because freefloating unlabelled links look weird.
> Now that we do have filesize indicators in the backlog page of mode_message, do you still find it useless to have the red bold filesizes near the bottom of thread subpages?
They're there, but only if you enable pruning by size.
> Does mode_message now work in PAGE_GENERATION => 'paged'?
No. I'm too lazy to figure what that's supposed to do, and I don't think anybody actually wants to use that in the first place.
> Idea: forced anonymous/sage/ID/fusianasan by IP/thread/board/whole site (some of these combinations already exist, I know)?
There's no database to keep IP data in, and I'd prefer to keep the script completely agnostic to IP addresses.
> Finally, I imagine that the permasage/close/delete functions in kareha.pl will be easily interchangeable among the conditions in post_stuff(). Can you confirm this?
No, because I don't know what you mean.
> That's what I thought, but then why is it in the Reply pages?
Er, that's a bug I guess.
> 1) rename the RENZOKU constants to something that makes sense
I dunno, they're pretty useless anyway, as has been pointed out, so I don't know if I care enough to change them.
> 2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
I dunno, if different boards use different strings, that will only make for immense confusion.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Well, the only string that makes sense is sage, but yes, I should implement the Heaven-on-sage behaviour.
> 4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
Maybe, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort (I'd have to implement a preferences page for it, too).
One of the things I did when I modified and restructured the order of functions in post_stuff() was add specific error messages for each non-comment field. Would this be considered superfluous?
n is implemented, but not for >> yet.
Also, >>1 is, as it is, only added to URLs of the form xx-yy and lxx. 2ch doesn't add >>1 for single-reply URLs, and if you're using commas, I figure you can add >>1 yourself if you want it. I'm not sure if this is the best behaviour, but that's how it works at the moment.
Well, a lot of machines run on x86 these days, so that covers a lot of it. And you could pre-compile for a couple of other architectures, and have it pretty much covered. Linux and unixes in general make it ridiculously hard to distribute binaries, as opposed to Windows or Mac OS, but it's still possible with a bit of trickery. Avoiding dynamic libraries helps a lot.
That form just looks wrong with no title or clear separator, though. I might put in a title that is not the exact same as the button, though. Any suggestions?
The board title is inserted by template.pl, and rules.html is included after it.
> What about a(n) (optional) preview page?
I've been considering that, but it's a goddamn pain to implement. It'd be pretty useful, though. Also, it could include the spell checker someone requested way back at the beginning of time.
> the entire server occasionally breaks
Occasionally?
Well, that might be it, except that on world4ch at least one board breaks every week, if not more. Incidentally, as of this writing, 4chan's /dis/ and /sug/ are also toast (third time this month?).
As it is, I can't recall ever seeing kareha break.
Also, for multiple board installations, use symlinks to allow you to keep just one installation of the main code files.
> You mean requiring SQL software, or just making backwards-incompatible changes that would screw up old threads?
I mean, needing to alter the table that is already in the database. I don't want to try to do that any more than I have to, as it's pretty hard to get right in a database-independent manner.
> Are you only referring to flooding and spamming, or also trolls and flamewars?
Yes, only flooding and spamming. Trolling and flamewars are not a problem one should use banning to try and solve.
> Finally, out of curiosity: how much of the functionality in the .js file do you think could be properly implemented into a new or existing perl script?
Well, if you serve up dynamic pages, you can do the form-filling on the server, but that's about it. The rest is dynamic stuff.
> Making them configurable from site to site is really dumb, because it would create an unthinkable usability mess.
Why? Let people figure out things themselves, if they are so keen on changing their keywords. They can get together in their own webmaster threads and figure this out. I don't see why this should be solved here.
Of course I think this is a dumb idea in the first place. Nobody needs to know what fusianasan and sage are. Write a FAQ with two sentences about it and/or let your oldtime users tell newbies. Two frickin' words, and you people talk about it as if it were something like making up a new system of romanization!
> Then why not simply boil it all down to the comment field, with trigger strings for inputting the name, e-mail, sage, ID:Heaven, and fusianasan? You can get a lot more minimal with the current interface.
That's a bit too much. You want to talk about sage and fusianasan in the comment field, not trigger it with it.
I suspect you are joking here, though. Design is about what you can take away and still remain optimal conveniency/efficiency on the user part, not about taking as much away as you are technically capable of.
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> Also, I'd like to ask exactly how Kareha does automatically generates deletion passwords. I'm guessing it's similar if not identical to how it creates ID session codes with a user's IP.
Actually, no, the Javascript just strings some random numbers and letters together.
> Because it's one of the two requirements for creating a new thread, and it's a lot more important to have a well-defined topic than to fill in your name.
But the body text is even more important, and that goes at the bottom. So I dunno.
>It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
Would it maybe make sense to make a separate thread creation page?