I'm using this now, but I'd like it better if it had these features:
I've been meaning to tweak the window placement code for some time, but I have not gotten around to it yet. Some day I will.
Ok, firstly: This is a WONDERFUL application. I've switched to OS X about 3 years ago now, but still have not had a good replacement for Irfanview/AcdSee for the Mac. (The Mac version of AcdSee sucks) I wanted something that when opened would be able to navigate through the current directory.
Your app is a wonderful example of coding done right.
Okay, with that all said my critique...
When the last window that is open is closed (when escape is pressed) but the app is still open, it would be cool if focus is given back to the previous application. An option for this would be cool. I fave the finder open and am traversing directoies and opening images constantly and exiting with escape. My only open here is to remap Quit to Escape or something, but that would be counter to performance.
Thanks again, for (several) cool apps.
"I've been meaning to tweak the window placement code for some time, but I have not gotten around to it yet. Some day I will."
That's good to hear.
Oh yeah, on the Wikipedia page on Xee,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xee
it says that Circlesoft is the Developer (though it still lists you, Dag Agren, as the Author)
I thought it might be possible that you work for this Circlesoft,
but I see nothing on your site that mentions Circlesoft
and nothing on http://www.circlesoft.com/ mentions you nor your programs either.
So is that information simply false??
note: At the bottom of the Wikipedia page, there is even a link that read "Circlesoft Website" but it links to your page. o_O
note 2: I Googled "xee circlesoft" and I found many links that says the same thing as the Wikipedia page. (???)
It's a common enough name that there are many that use it. It's an old name used by me and some friends back in the nineties. I only used it now because Apple thinks only companies can write software.
So circlesoft.com has nothing to do with you then, right?
Wait, isn't it possible that you get in trouble somehow if you use the name of a real company?
Here's another suggestion:
Currently, the Rotate Image buttons are laid out this way
[Rotate right 90°] [Rotate left 90°]
Well, maybe it's just me, but this is kinda unintuitive/unnatural.
I think most people would think left button = rotate left and right button = rotate right
(note: Windows XP's Preview also has this problem.)
"Right" and "left" are fairly arbitary designations for rotations. More accurately they are "Rotate clockwise" and "Rotate counter-clockwise", and it seems logical to me (and apparently others) that clockwise comes before counter-clockwise. I'll consider it, but I am not entirely convinced.
Yeah, I understand what you mean.
"Rotate left" and "rotate right" aren't exactly very accurate descriptions, but a lot of people still think of them that way, methinks.
And so does Apple, it seems:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/dhtns/misc/apple_preview.png
I don't know, I guess people's minds work from top to the bottom,
so they think of the top of a picture being spun left/right. (if that even makes sense)
In either case, I'll leave it up to your judgment.
Thanks for your time!
Hello anyone :) First, for me, Xee is the best apply for looking a picture on a Mac, how ACDsee on windows !
But, just a suggestion : why the windows never reminder is last size ?
"Get info" can remember is late place en size, but not the viewer :-(
Very very good soft !
like the program even more and more especially the zip thing, like to see a thumbnail option to see inside zip tar or other files if it is possible. so keep on the good work enjoy XEE
Say, I've thinking about this. Instead of donating to you through Paypal, do you have a local Amazon where you live? If you do, why not set up a wish list and paste it here? I'm not a huge fan of Paypal and from what I remember, their commission cut isn't small.
Thank you for this app!!! It works exactly like I want a simple viewer to work! I can't even begin to tell you for how long I've been looking for something like an early ACDSee for Windows (before it became a huge bloatware).
Quick suggestion.. could you make it behave a bit more like Photoshop? For example, if you hold a spacebar in PS, you can then scroll around an image. It would be great if I could hold a spacebar and then use arrow keys or a mouse to move around a zoomed in image.
Thanks! Donation's coming.
I'm not sure why you would want to hold the spacebar, as you can move the image around with the mouse or arrow keys without holding it down right now?
Tiger 10.48, Xee 2.0
Preferences > Formats > Select all.
:-( now I cannot UNCHECK them anymore.. only some of them. I tried a restart and trashing the preference file.
Can somebody help me please? Thanks, Martin.
There is no way for a program to tell the system to NOT use it. If no other program is available to open a file, there is no way to deselect yourself.
But I do have another program available -- called "Preview" (for the jpgs) ;-)
I have also DefaultApp installed - I can "fix" it with that. In case a future reader wants to know more - see here: http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/
Thanks for the prompt reply BTW. I like Xee. One suggestion: make a preference that opens the window using the full screen (keeping the menu bar) and NOT changing window size to the picture - that's distracting to me. It would be as if during a movie the screensize of my TV would change randomly - makes it for me difficult to focus on the image itself.
You can turn off the window resizing already, in the preferences. Also, after doing some testing, there seems to be some kind of bug with the filetype handling code... Going to have to investigate that.
Plz, oh plz give this little tool an thumbnail and browser view through pressing the "ENTER" key. Would make this thing to absolute killer-app for viewing pictures.
atm: iView and the others that offer one still are a touch better!
Once again, the Finder is already a very capable thumbnail browser, and I see no reason wasting my effort re-implementing what's already there.
I really like Xee - fast, slick interface, beats the pants of Prevew.
2 features that I think would enhance it mightily:
thanks for great software!
Dogs
>>519
The only reasons being the ability to scan thumbnails from archives, and well, the fact that an ACDSee-like browser beats finder hands down when it comes to keyboard navigation, etc.
I meant to have Xee open the initial window full screen sized. So the application window fills the full screen which has the advantage that i can focus on my image, yet have the navigation still at hand.
Currently I have checked "Never resize windows" but Xee seems to forget my last window size and opens always as a default with 800 pixel or so width.
Does my suggestion make sense ?
My post referrs to >> 516 (sorry, I can't figure out how to make that reference link).
If you have set the default window size to 800, I assume you want to accomodate smaller screens. However as I know from webdesign, there are possibilities to default the window size to the full computer screen - no matter what size.
If a user already has the "philosophy" to select "never resize windows" it should be fairly easy to have Xee pop up full window size upon launch WITHOUT the need to click the green button when Xee launches.
At the minimum I'd simply wish Xee would remember in that case the last window size. Now that should be easy to implement.
There are several improvements that could be made to the window sizing and placement. When I have the time, I will look at it. But I am fairly busy, so it could be a while.
Hi ! I've done a french translation of this fantastic sofware i uses a lot. It's nearly finished.
http://spytv.keo.in/fr.lproj.zip
Could this translation be integrated in the next realse ?
It will probably need to be updated for any GUI changes in the next release. If you give me a mail address, I'll give you a new version to translate when the time comes.
First of all,
thanks for your hard work. You've made the best OS X image viewer possible. I wasn't happy with Preview, but Xee made browsing pictures worthwhile again.
One feature I would like to see in another release would be being able to set the current picture as wallpaper. I don't know if that's possible.
Thanks again!
Thanks. I removed the post so you don't need to get any extra spam.
Can't assign backspace key on the «prev image» action (bug)
What happens when you try?
I found some keyboard shortcut-related bugs.
Bug 1:
When Space is assigned to an action (in my case, Next Image)
it doesn't not work as the "select focused element" key in dialogs/sheets.
For instance,
if I'm in the Rename or Delete confirmation dialog and I use Tab to focus the OK or Cancel button,
pressing Space won't "press" on the focused button.
(note: If Space is not assigned to anything, then it works.)
Bug 2:
If Escape is assigned to an action (in my case, it's the default setting: "Cancel Action or Close Window or Drawer"),
it does not work in the Delete confirmation dialog;it doesn't close it.
(note: Just like Bug 1, if Escape is not assigned to anything, then it works.
However, Escape DOES work in the Rename dialog.)
Bug 3:
In the Rename and Delete confirmation dialog/sheet,
pressing Tab does not move the focus to the OK and Cancel buttons.
Whoa, now THIS is a weird bug.
If I display a file in Xee and choose Rename, then I rename the file to a name that contains one or many slashes "/", the file seems to DISAPPEAR.
I tried searching for the file in Spotlight.
And I did "ls" in Terminal.
Nothing.
The file is GONE.
Freaky.
Thanks!
Also, I know the reason for this one: Since OS X is a Unix system, slashes are not allowed in filenames, but because slashes have traditionally been allowed, a kludge was inserted that silently maps slashes to and from colons in filenames. However, I need to do that by hand and I have not implemented that.
That doesn't really explain why it would DISAPPEAR, though.
opening a JPEG file procuded by a Canon EOS 400D (same as XTi in the US) result in a null pointer dereference. Following message appears in the logs: "(null): Custom function unsupported; please report to author (Canon EOS 400D DIGITAL)"
You'll need to provide me with an example file before I can fix it.
So those will be fixed in 2.0.1, I'm guessing?
Oh, by the way, I just realized that in Bug 1, I said, "and I use Tab to focus the OK or Cancel button".
But then in Bug 3, I said that I CAN'T use Tab to focus. What the heck???
I just tried it out now and indeed, it CANNOT do it.
But I distinctively remember having used Tab at a certain point. Really weird. (Maybe I just remembered wrong.)
In either case, I hope Tab, Escape and Space will all work in the next release.
Yeah, I do know about the UNIX thing.
That's why I tried to play around with ":" and "/" to see what would happen.
I first tried ":", and it showed up in Finder as a "/", which told me that Xee uses the "real" UNIX file names.
Then I tried "/", and, well... bye bye file. =P
Say, you wouldn't happen to know where that file could've gone, would you?
Is is still in that folder/directory? (though doing "ls" in Terminal shows nothing)
Or is it lost forever in hard disk purgatory?
They will hopefully be fixed once I get some time to work on it.
Also, I would have expected the rename to just fail and that nothing would happen. For the file to disappear seems very wrong. I'll look into that later.
I apologize if I missed it in this thread, but is there a way to have the images open up so that their width expands to the full width of the screen, but not both width and height?
I want it to open an image as large as possible horizontally, but dont mind scrolling vertically.
Many thanks...the speed of this app is awesome!
I think the closest you can get is:
View > Automatic Zoom > check Enlarge To Fit
I don't think you can "enlarge to fit width" only.
I think you are right, Remain. If I make a patch, could I submit it?
thanks
This is a really great image viewer, and I appreciate all the effort you've made to make it as clean and simple, yet powerful, as it is.
I've started using it to view very large sets of images (20,000) and the performance upon opening the folder is really bad. The source of the problem seems to be that when you sort the files you call CFURLCreateFromFSRef for every single comparison operation. Maybe instead you could call it once for each file and cache the result? Or even better would be to build the full expanded path when you first read the directory contents so you don't need to expand it later.
It seems an awfully specific feature. I don't think many people would have a use for it, and I am loath to add clutter to the interface with such features. That way lies feature creep.
Yeah, I know, I really need to optimize this. However, there is a reason I use FSRefs and not paths in the list, which is to keep track of files as they are moved around. However, calculating paths once before sorting and then caching them might indeed help. I'll look into that.
Re 546: I went ahead implemented the caching of file paths during sorting, and it reduced the start-up time for my folder with 27,000 images from 327 seconds to 11 seconds. Not bad, huh?
In _runSorter I added:
int count=[entries count];
for(int i=0;i<count;i++) [[entries objectAtIndex:i] SetTmpPath];
[entries sortUsingSelector:@selector(compareTmpPaths:)];
for(int i=0;i<count;i++) [[entries objectAtIndex:i] ClearTmpPath];
and then added a tmp_path variable to XeeDirectoryEntry. I can send you the full source if you like.
I forgot to mention another change I made to improver performance:
-(void)addEntry:(XeeFileEntry *)entry sort:(BOOL)sort
{
[self lockList];#if 0
int index=[entries indexOfObject:entry];
if(index!=NSNotFound) { [self unlockListWithUpdates:NO]; return; } // already added#endif
This code adds another 50 seconds on top of the 327 seconds I quoted above. If there is only one directory loaded then this isn't necessary (as in my case). For other situations I'd recommend either sorting the list before adding to it (so a binary search would be possible), or add things unconditionally, then sort, then scan and look for adjacent items that are duplicated.
That won't work quite correctly in all cases, as the clicked image is added twice in some circumstances. Also, the whole thing needs to be thread-safe (current versions don't use threads when scanning but future ones will), so it's all kind of tricky to get right. I'll have to look it through thoroughly when I find some time...
Wow this thing is -FAST-! -Too bad it doesn't do optional thumbnailing & metadata. -You'd beat the crap out of ImageBrowser, et. al. !
Great work man!!!!!
Suggestion:
How about something to indicate when part of the picture is outside the boundaries of the window?
Since Xee doesn't use scrollbars (and I actually like this approach),
there should be another way to let the user know that the current pic can be scrolled.
I guess there could be an indication in the Status Bar?
Suggestion:
How about something to indicate when part of the picture is outside the boundaries of the window?
Since Xee doesn't use scrollbars (and I actually like this approach),
there should be another way to let the user know that the current pic can be scrolled.
I guess there could be an indication in the Status Bar?
Great Work. I have a request: Bind a default keyboard shortcut to Slideshow Run (say command + option + S) so that I can complete a great Sofa Control Script to browse / view images via the Apple Remote control. I know I can do this myself on prefs but so will have to everyone that uses Sofa Control + Xee. I think that's very easy to implement. On a diiferent note some applescript support would be great for future versions :-)
It would be nice to have thumbnail browser, where one can configure thumbnail size. This is convenient when searching for a photo and filenames are generic.
Once again, the finder already does that.
Enhancement request:
Folders can be dropped onto Xee in the dock to browse that folder. Can this be extended so that:
- folders can also be dropped onto the Xee window to open that folder, as the window is much larger and easier to drop files onto
- be able to browse the items in that folder and its subfolders, using depth first search useful for browsing manga more than anything else
I've noticed a problem with Xee in trying to delete files from an AFP mounted volume. The Finder will do it, but Xee says "The file "blabla" could not be deleted." I'm pretty sure that it's not a permissions problem. Maybe it's just me :)
Suggestion:
A preference to turn off the "Open" dialog when you open Xee directly (meaning not through opening a file).
I, for one, never use that dialog to open files; I open them through the Finder.
But also, there are certain instances where that dialog is completely pointless and only annoying.
For example, when you just want to open Xee to paste the clipboard.
Therefore, I believe that dialog should be made optional.
I have some favorite folders where I have put aliases to the original pictures. When I open such an alias with Xee, it open correctly the original and views it. When I toggle to the next picture/alias, it views the next picture from the original picture folder, and not the next alias from the favorite folder.
I haven't checked yet, but this may be a limitation in OS X that I can't do anything about.
Hello,
Is there an easy way to translate Xee to german language, e.g. by exchanging some strings in a text file?
Yes, the usual method of editing Localized.strings and all .nib files works. However, I already received a German translation so hopefully the next version, whenever I can get it finished, will be localized.
Also, please use the existing threads for short questions, to keep all discussion in one place.
when dragging a folder that has subfolders full of images to Xee, it reports "No images available". Maybe make it search recursively for images? It's this close to being pure joy.
I seem to have a problem. To be honest I haven't read all 567 posts. Most of them I don't understand anyway.
I have a digital photo frame. I viewed all the pictures with Xee and deleted those I didn't want. They are on an SD card. None of them went to the trash. When I play the pictures, they all come up. If I go to the folder mode on the frame, it shows trashes and that is where the discarded pix live; but I am unable to see them on my Mac so that I can discard them permanently. How would I do this, or is it impossible?
Thanks for your response.
MeoW
Susan
it would be really really nice to be able to see the exif data somehow, maybe transparent over it or something.
thanks
if there is a way already im sorry i missed it
Excellent piece of software. It would be perfect if I could get a thumbnail view of all pictures in a folder as well. As things stand Xee is great for looking at pictures but not so good for sorting.
You can do that in the Finder though.
View > Show View Options (or Cmd J)
Check "Show Icon Preview"
(obviously, it'd be best to also set Icon Size to a reasonably large size)
As for sorting, you can change the order of the pictures in Xee by doing
Browse > Sort Order
There are 3 options: By Filename, By Date, By Size
Besides, I think Dag Ågren doesn't want to add a thumbnail file browser.
>>557
>>558
I would agree, because this would be a step towards bloatware.
(see: ACDSee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acdsee )
I have Xee 2.0 running on PowerBook G4 PPC Mac. I don't kknow why, but every time I open some JPG image and rotate, save, open next image, rotate, save, open next image... after 5-10 such operations Xee crashes... constantly...
Can you post a crash log?
Is there a Spanish translation of Xeen?
it is already done?
A person apparently going by just the name "John" contributed some icons for Xee:
http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/DocumentStyle.xeeicons.zip
At some point I really need to link the alternate icon sets from the homepage, too.
Also, >>577, no.
>>578
Adam Betts made a very great set of replacement-icons for xee
http://www.artofadambetts.com/weblog/index.php?s=xee
I've finalized the french localisation of Xee (2.0). But unfortunately i'haven't a FTP site to propose you the zip of the fr.lproj.... (108 Kb). I try with the Image button hereafter, else can you send me a email where i can send you this translation to be added to the software ?
Enjoy !
I think this had been said a thousand times, but when it has Two-Page feature for comics, PERFECT! :D Is developer considering about that?
Thanks. I hope to add it to the next version when that is finally done, but it will probably need updating. I will mail you when the time comes.
Just curious: will the next version be able to remember window size and position?
I really hope so, as it is one of my biggest (and only) gripes with Xee.
Thanks a lot!
Ok. I'm waiting with impatience the new version ! Does it include the possibility to change the resolution ?
I've just discovered Xee and love it. But I have one little feature request - could you add an option to browse only associated file formats? No it tries to open my RAFs and fails every time.
Someone mentioned that Xee lacks an option to Set the desktop background... That would be quite useful in my opinion. No responded though :)
Any plans to add that?
TTaveira, Portugal
here a few feature request i have about xee
some are from windows irfanview
(there is one in xee1 but never fills ...)
else, a great tool
thanks a lot for it
note: as i'm waiting for 10.5, i'm still stuck with xee1 for 10.3. so maybe some feature exist. soory for it.
So the thumbnail request...
I understand that Xee is just a image viewer and not a thumbnail indexer/viewer, and the implantation of that may be hard, but a shortcut to the inbuilt fullscreen thumbnail preview of OS X would be great and i think (Im no programmer) relative easy to code.
look at minute 4:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKP5fFelYkI they really improved it with core animation in Leopard, its way faster than in Tiger even at many pictures and really looks awesome.
So my wish is that it would be possible to open the inbuilt fullscreen slideshow presenter of OS-X right out of Xee with all the pictures. - only if a direct implantation of displaying thumbnails would be to ... far from the purpose of Xee.
Oh yes and a "set as wallpaper" really would useful :)
Anyway I love Xee, cant thinking browsing my images without it :)
When I rename any jpg or gif file which has Spotlight Commnets, then after renaming these comments are lost... Can you improve Xee here?
Some of that is implemented in Xee 2, and some won't be implemented any time soon, such as thumbnails, because Finder already does thumbnails for you.
I've never seen that feature in Tiger. How would one access that?
I'll look into that at some point, but it sounds more like an OS X bug than anything else.
>>592
select some pictures in finder, rightclick them and choose "slideshow".
Or open them with preview and press shift+cmd+f.
But its only nice when you have 90 pics max or so in tiger.
http://www.google.com/search?q=finder+slideshow
For me, it's 99 pictures max: 9 rows of 11 pics each.
(unless it's different at different resolutions)
Bug 1:
By default, Space is assigned to both Toggle Animation and Next Image. (that's 1 problem)
But it only acts as Next Image. Even if I remove Space from Next Image, it still won't work as Toggle Animation for some reason. (You'll hear the system sound, meaning no effect.)
Bug 2:
Certain GIFs has a very dark color for their transparent areas.
In browsers, you'll see these transparent areas as white.
But in Xee, they'll be displayed in that dark color.
This can effectively make the image "un-viewable."
Here's an example:
This is the actual GIF image:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/dhtns/misc/xee_gif_trans_orig.gif
Here's what it looks like in a browser:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/dhtns/misc/xee_gif_trans_browser.png
(see how the transparent areas are white)
Here's what it looks like in Preview:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/dhtns/misc/xee_gif_trans_preview.png
But here's what it looks like in Xee:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/dhtns/misc/xee_gif_trans_xee.png
Yeah... you can't see much of anything. (If you zoom in, you'll see that it's not actually black, it's just a very dark shade of gray.)
This is why I'd like to request a way to set the color of transparent areas of GIFs, PNGs, etc.
In Preferences, there's a pref called "Default image background" but it does not seem to do anything.
(Say, I set it to red then I try out GIFs with transparencies, but I see nothing red. So I'm not really sure what that pref does.)
> Bug 2:
> Certain GIFs has a very dark color for their transparent areas.
That's not a bug as such, it's just displaying the GIF as it is defined. The problem is that the GIF is specifying a non-sensical background colour. Xee compromises by displaying the transparent colour with a pattern. If I changed it to override the background colour defined in the GIF, there would a lot of other images that would display wrong instead.
You could try complaining to whoever or whatever made the broken image.
Well, I got that image from the Web, so I don't really know who made it.
But the thing is, that's not the only one that's like this.
I've got a bunch that have the same issue.
Yes, I understand that it's the image makers' fault and not Xee's.
But I use Xee as my main image viewer,
so it would be nice if I were able to view my entire collection with Xee without having to resort to opening in a browser for certain random ones.
I'm not saying make "white for transparent areas" the default behavior.
I just want to request a way to set it that way, perhaps temporarily.
For instance, a quick pref under the View menu. (View > "Show Transparency in White" or something)
So that for cases such as this, where nothing can be seen, that quick pref can be toggled on, and you can see it as you would in a browser.
Thanks for your time!
I might, but I've got a lot of other stuff that needs fixing too.
Thanks for considering it. Much appreciated.
Actually, the number one thing on my Xee wishlist right now is for Xee to remember window size and position instead of always loading the default size.
In any case, I'm really looking forward to 2.1!
Thx! Xee the best!
I think a great feature would be if Xee supported the autorate stuff from cameras with a rotation sensor. It would be very helpful
