I'm using this now, but I'd like it better if it had these features:

• some way to open a folder from the command line ("open -a Xee ." doesn't work).
• some way to advance to the next image one-handed on a laptop keyboard, possibly with , and . (obvious joke goes here).

hey!!!
any chances tor fullscreen mode in Leopard.
everyon's beggin YOU
Xee is the best and we cant use it!!!
PLEASE

hey!!!
any chances tor fullscreen mode in Leopard.
everyon's beggin YOU
Xee is the best and we cant use it!!!
PLEASE

Hello Xee users,

Here is a version with fixed fullscreen for MacOS 10.5

Just go there http://aorlinsk2.free.fr/xee/

Finally! thanx a lot!

>>803

Patches! Patches!

Big THX to 803! :) It works now (Fullscreen) on my new iMac MacOS 10.5.1 without Problems.

803: Thanks for the Leopard fullscreen fix

All right, finally 10.5.2 is out, and Apple did fix the NSOpenGLView bug!

So to anyone who's had problems with full screen not working: Update to 10.5.2, and it's fixed!

Apple actually fixed a bug instead of making developers use a workaround?

Amazing.

>>809
They tend to do that now and then. You might be thinking of the other company.

>>810
see http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1132091963/167

>>811
Sucks. I put in a bug report for Safari and it was fixed in the next version.

To be fair, they did pay enough attention to close one of my reports as a duplicate, though!

The report about this bug is still listed as "open", though.

Hi there.
when we will see any update for Xee? have some problems with leopard for example we i go for look the images in full screen.

Thanks

Hi there.
when we will see any update for Xee? have some problems with leopard for example we i go for look the images in full screen.

Thanks

>>814-815, read >>808

Will there be an update to address the color issue? I love the features of Xee, but the colors in Preview are so much better.

Probably, but don't hold your breath. It's not an easy thing to get right, and I don't have much time at the moment.

>>739
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem: I rotate my picture and then press Cmd+S or if I go to File -> Save Losslessly then I get an error message: Image saving failed Couldn't save image.

any ideas?

>>819

Are the file permissions set so that you are allowed to overwrite that file?

>>820
I think so. That are just normal photos from my mobile.
And the funny thing is now:

• I rotate the picture
• I press Cmd+S or File -> Save Losslessly
• I get the error message
• If I click on left or right to view the next pictures and then come back to the "rotated" picture, it is shown as it was before - not rotated.
• BUT: if I close the application and reopen it (or open this file with another programm) everything is fine. The picture is rotated!

I'm just wondering now, why I get this error message and why it only get in effect, if I restart the program...

>>821

Are the files on a local drive, or on some networked drive?

on a local drive

on a local drive

Hi, I was wondering if there was any way to have the sort order be "Date Created" instead of "Date Modified". Or else use the photo date from the EXIF data.

I made the mistake of using Canon's photo browsing utility, which for some reason changed all of the date modified dates to today. That means that Xee (which I really like) is no longer useful for browsing through by date.

Thanks in advance.

>>825

EXIF date sorting would actually be really nice to have, but it would also be hard to implement fast enough. But I might look into it.

The ability to unlock password-protected RAR files is a critically need feature! I look forward to seeing it added. Thanks for your work on this!

Xee is a great image browsing software, thanks a lot.
But if the setting could be save will be much better.
Such as the size of the window could be memorized when reopen the software, the zoom ratio could be save when reopen.

Great program bit I miss the autosave after a rotate. Is it possible that you make this a preference (autosave on/off after rotating) ?

I used to use ACDSee to browse and view images on my PC. I've missed having something that feels like that application on my mac. Until now that is. Xee works for me just like the way I used to use ACDSee. Thank you very much for this app.

Hi, plus one for the auto-save option. I would love this feature, too!
best
Jan

Fantastic! I had about 400 photos taken with two different cameras that I had to split up into two folders: one for each camera. Oh no, this is going to take a lot of time identifying which photo have been taken with which camera and then copying it into the right folder... but then Xee appeared! Using its Copy function and its Image Info function this took me about ten minutes! Thank you for a great app.

Xee is awesome.
I've been using a mix of some homemade python scripts
and xee copy/move functionality to sort my photo library
w/o the slowdown of iphoto. However, I noticed if
I try to browse a directory full of symlinked images,
xee follows the links and ends up browsing the directory
the actual files exist in. Is there a way to keep xee
from following the links or do I need to roll my
own version to disable this feature?

thanks again for the incredibly fast app.

>>836

Hmm, I guess that should be fixed. File a bug on the bug tracker.

A possible feature would be to have xee handle finder's thumbnail request for archives (producing a thumbnail for the archive). Great piece of software, btw.

hi,

seems like Xee 2.0 is not able to handle Canons raw format completly.

If i use Canon Raw (.cr2) on a EOS 40D Xee is able to handle the images.
If i switch on the EOS to Canon's S-raw (.cr2) Xee is not able to handle the files.

a) Is that a known issue ?
b) If you are interested i can offer some example files. Just tell me what you need to know in detail.

Best regards and thanks for that great viewer

>>840

Xee does raw loading through the OS X built-in functions. If you find a file that does open in Preview but not in Xee, then send me an example. If it opens in neither, that's expected behaviour.

This doesn't seem to be an issue with other folks who use Xee, but i would really like to see an image re-sizing feature in Xee (to shrink down large images from their originals--say make a 3000x2000 pixel image 300x200 pixels, for web use.)

does xee already do this? am i missing a feature? or is this not a needed feature for most folks?

it seems very useful to me, for re-sizing of images for web. if i travel without a computer and use someone else's mac, i often need to resize photos for web use, but if the computer i'm using doesn't have photoshop, i'm outta luck for freeware programs that do image resizing.

>>842

Well, on the one hand, it's a bit outside the scope of an image viewer to do image editing tasks. On the other hand, firing up Photoshop is a royal pain. So I might add it sooner or later.

>>843
Ever try Seashore?

>>844

I think I tried it once, and concluded like all other similar apps, it is far too much of a toy to ever be of any practical use to me, and keeping it around just to resize images doesn't really win me much over just using Photoshop.

I use it to do all the stupid little things that it's just too annoying to load Photoshop for, like quick crop, resize, change format, draw a box, etc. stuff. More often than not I have no use for 99.9% of Photoshop's features and something a bit more lobotomized is quite handy to have around, especially since it loads nearly instantly. That said I grew up doing pixel-editing with MS Paint...

FEATURE REQUEST:

First off, Xee is an awesome product and I think it's absolutely great! However, like everyone, we have our own tastes, and here are 3 requests I have with stars (asterisks) representing my feeling of importance for each.

***** If you press either the next or previous image buttons, the mouse cursor should move to the new button screen position when Xee's window resizes to the image dimensions. Having to move my mouse every time gets annoying, and I like viewing images at their actual size.

**** When opening the first image (that opens the Xee window), it'd be nice if Xee didn't show up with a black background before the image becomes visible. It just looks sloppy.

** An icon pack that more resembles Preview would be cool, to keep in with the Apple feel. I have manually copied in Preview icons, but if such were already done, that'd be better.

> If you press either the next or previous image buttons, the mouse cursor should move to the new button screen position when Xee's window resizes to the image dimensions. Having to move my mouse every time gets annoying, and I like viewing images at their actual size.

Moving the mouse pointer is a big no-no in GUI design. I will not do that. With the default settings, the window should not resize when using the toolbar buttons, unless you explicitly changed that in the settings.

> When opening the first image (that opens the Xee window), it'd be nice if Xee didn't show up with a black background before the image becomes visible. It just looks sloppy.

Progressive loading of the image is a feature, not a bug.

> An icon pack that more resembles Preview would be cool, to keep in with the Apple feel. I have manually copied in Preview icons, but if such were already done, that'd be better.

If you can provide some icons that are colour-coded, badged, and distinguishable down to 16 pixel size, I'll put it up.

> When opening the first image (that opens the Xee window), it'd be nice if Xee didn't show up with a black background before the image becomes visible. It just looks sloppy.

When I open huge files I appreciate how it communicates that the app isn't stalled. Do you want to be left 20 seconds without any sort of feedback?

>>663-666

I don't want to install The Unarchiver, and I don't want anything associated with those files.

>>853

RCDefaultApp can set associations to a dummy app if you absolutely want. That's the only way to stop OS X automatically associating files with apps that can open them.

I'm replying about Canon RAW formats (also for other brand camera RAW)

Canon latest camera 40D and 450D raw are saved with .cr2 however it's different compression make them unreadable until update.

Since Xee depending on OSX Raw support. You can download the "Digital Camera RAW Support update" from apple website.

So RAW problem is not there because of Xee but because camera developer keep making new format and using same extention

>>855

Actually, the format is probably the same, but the problem is that there are differences between the sensors in the different cameras that use the same format, and this data about the sensors is not stored in the file, so the loading program has to be updated for each new camera.

It's not exactly a good design.

Gracias! Thanks for this great piece of software.

Is it possible to implement in Xee a Lanzcos or a Bicubic interpolation for zooming small images? When Xee3? Thanks again.

Why is it when I rotate a jpeg image from my camera and save losslessly that the resulting file is smaller than the original?

>>858

How much smaller? The embedded thumbnail is re-generated from scratch, so if the camera makes a very high-quality thumbnail, that could be it.

>>859

Before IMG_0398.JPG 1.1 MB (1,126,799)
After IMG_0398.JPG 1.1 MB (1,126,435)

Before IMG_0399.JPG 1.2 MB (1,263,499)
After IMG_0399.JPG 1.2 MB (1,263,422)

The camera is a Canon Powershot A510 3.2 Megapixels.

>>862

Yeah, a difference that small would just be because of the new thumbnail.

(Also, I haven't looked into the details, but the Huffman compression step of the JPEG may turn out slightly different after you rotate the image, so that would also affect the file size slightly.)

>>864

I guess I was just assuming the term "lossless" meant "lossless" obviously it doesn't mean absolutely "lossless". Thanks.

>>865
what do you think "lossless" means if not "not losing any information"?
the thumbnail shouldn't contain any information not in the actual image.

>>866
Well, if you're rotating an image and it's "lossless" shouldn't the size stay the same? If it's getting smaller, then isn't it losing information? Maybe I'm just not understanding the concept, but to my mind it should stay the same size, shouldn't it?

>>868

> Well, if you're rotating an image and it's "lossless" shouldn't the size stay the same?

No. First because of the thumbnail, as already explained, and also because JPEG does both lossy and lossless compression. The lossless transforms do not affect the lossy step, but they do affect the lossless step. The lossless compression will output differently sized files with differently transformed input.

>>869
To my way of thinking if it does lossless rotation and the only thing you do is rotate the photo then the size shouldn't change. But, since it does, then either is not lossless OR I don't understand OR there's something else going on with a lossless rotation.

Ive installed everything correctly but Im getting a problem when I point my browser to domain.com/wakaba.pl

It redirects to wakaba.html (which doesnt exist) and gives me an error. Whats up?

>>871
This isn't the wakaba support thread. Learn to read please.

Hi and thanks for this great app!
Any news on colour management? I still have to use it together with Preview.app and this bothers...
thanks!

posted this on the support thread as well, but I dunno which one is checked more often...

I really like your application, I am just wondering if it is possible to assign the trackpad-scroll function to be for moving the image around instead of to move back and forth between pictures. I tried messing with the keyboard assignment configuration, but I was never able to get it to work. I don't even know how to assign a shortcut to left and right scrolling, so that's out of the picture. However, up-and-down scrolling never worked for me, either.

Image resize is the only missing feature.
Please? Pretty please?

Please consider adding the following features:

Set image as wallpaper, as in Justlooking and Safari.

Start the window centered, it is a bit anoying that the window is out of center when a pic is opened.

When closing with X add an option to completely quit the program instead of staying in the background.

please make it work exactly like the PC app called ACDSee (v.2.45)
k.thx.bye.

Guys,

How about a new version??? Current one is extremely buggy! A new version is much needed!

would be good to have print support!

I was looking for a lossless JPEG crop application and this one was very close to what I wanted, but it lacks some critical features to make this usable:

1, Pixel grid co-ordinates. I cannot accurately position the mouse cursor precisely where I need it to make a good crop without referring to X & Y co-ordinates.
2, Crop lock aspect ratio. If I want to crop at 1:1 (i.e. a square), or a custom aspect ratio.
3, Zoom pan. If I'm zoomed into a image to make an accurate crop, I would like to drag the cursor to the opposite end of an image and have the image pan within the application window.

Thanks.

>>880

For 1, the crop borders are automatically set to the nearest blocks on those edges where it matters when saving (and you get to pick whether it should expand or contract the cropping area). There's no UI for it because I haven't figured out a good and easy-to-use one. Displaying a grid isn't really it - remember that only two of the edges need to be aligned, not all of them, and which two depend on the lossless rotation of the image.

For 3, arrow keys work for panning while cropping as a workaround.

Hello,

I use xee as my primary image viewer, and it is definitly great !

I have on suggestion to make it even greater for my use :
I often have to present images to people using a projector. I don't like having windows and any sort of mess displayed. The screen should be showing a content or black (the background image of the screen is black).

So my suggestion is to add a preference to display fullscreen images on a secondary screen if available.

This would be a really simple modification :

• An NSMatrix of 2 radio buttons in preference letting the user choose "Display on current window's screen" (tag 0), and "Display on secondary screen if available" (tag 1).
• The selected ID bounded to use default "fullScreenDestination"
• in the code, file xeeController, "fullscreen" IBAction,

line :
---------------
[fullscreenwindow setFrame:[[window screen] frame] display:NO];
---------------
and
---------------
SetSystemUIMode(kUIModeAllHidden,kUIOptionAutoShowMenuBar);
---------------

replaced with
---------------
NSScreen *destinationScreen;
if ([[NSUserDefaults standardUserDefaults] integerForKey:@"fullScreenDestination"] == 0)

destinationScreen = [window screen];

else
{

destinationScreen = [[NSScreen screens] lastObject];
SetSystemUIMode(kUIModeAllHidden,kUIOptionAutoShowMenuBar);

}
[fullscreenwindow setFrame:[destinationScreen frame] display:NO];
---------------

and boom, that's done !

For my usage, it would be really great !
Indeed, I compiled a version with this modification for my own usage (I'll use the feature during a presentation next week).

Thanks for this great piece of software !

Any chance of an upgrade sometime soon? It's been a long while...

Just want to let you know that Xee is simply the best image viewer for me. It's faster than any other viewer to load, it allows me to quickly scroll through large images with the arrow keys without any delay, the zoom is instantly responsive...what else can I say...oh yes, please release an updated build with the latest fixes and features :) !!! Thanks ! Well done, keep up the good work !

>>885

Yeah, that's a known bug, sorry. Hopefully I'll have some time to finish a new version and get that sorted out.

thanks for the reply. i'll be looking forward to it.

>>543
>>547

I'd like to see this too (resize window to fit width only, it'd make viewing comics/manga easier. Other than that, Xee is perfect.

I really want to like Xee, but there is one problem.
Xee doesn't support ColorManagement. Like this it is not usable for me and for a lot of other users too.

Please fix this and Xee will be perfect!

yeah, please, make it colormanaged!

Hi,
I'm just another happy Xee user that decided to write here to ask why Xee saves RAW (Canon CR2) files on a wrong, and unusable, way.
I really like how Xee "reads" and shows CR2 files and I think it would be great (for me needs) to use it on a workflow to convert all of the CR2 files on a given directory to JPG or whatever.
Is it a know bug?
Thanks.

>>891

You're going to have to actually tell me what the problem is before I can answer that.

I just updated to Xee 2 after I found out that 1.2.1 has a bug when rotating images. At least I found that part of the left side of the image was moved to the right. Xee 2 works like it should, but suddenly the autosave is gone. Can you make this optional?

Another great option would be to be able to browse ODF files (OpenOffice), which are just zips with a specific file structure. Images inside documents are saved as PNG. Same goes for JAR files.

Thanks anyway! I really use it a lot to browse my images.

> but suddenly the autosave is gone.

I've been meaning to fix this for some time. It'll hopefully be back in the next version as an option.

> Another great option would be to be able to browse ODF files (OpenOffice), which are just zips with a specific file structure. Images inside documents are saved as PNG. Same goes for JAR files.

If so, they should open if you just drop them on the Xee icon, I think.

I'm just curious, will xee get support for multi touch rotation and zoom or is it something only preview supports?

anyways, great app!

>>895

I'd love to add that, but that would require me to actually have a machine that has a multi-touch pad.

>>896
Huh, I thought you had a powerbook...

I wonder why I can't use Xee 2.0 to delete pictures on CF cards or on a NAS Device. Deleting them with the finder works and deleting files on the local drive works with Xee.
The external volumes have no trashcan...
Nice app though!

>>898

Yes, that should be fixed in the development version already.

Hi,
I'm the writer of post 891. The attached image is from a CR2 file opened with Xee and saved to PNG from the "File -> Save as.." menu.