I'm using this now, but I'd like it better if it had these features:

• some way to open a folder from the command line ("open -a Xee ." doesn't work).
• some way to advance to the next image one-handed on a laptop keyboard, possibly with , and . (obvious joke goes here).

Hi, I'm enjoying Xee, and have two requests/suggestions regarding automatic JPEG rotation:
1) differentiate between displaying an image with auto-rotation applied, and performing lossless rotation on the image file. I didn't realize that "auto rotate" would change my files on disk, but I can see that was the result. (Such file modification should be obvious or pop up a warning, especially since it can't be undone.) I appreciate the option to perform lossless rotation on my files, but usually I'm primarily interested in viewing images at the proper orientation, without altering the files. I suggest two different functions for displaying/performing rotation.
2) Make "display with automatic rotation" a sticky option in the preferences, such that it's truly automatic (without user intervention on each JPEG image).

Thanks for an outstanding app.

>>337

I've been working on pretty much just that, but I lost the code in a drive crash. I'm working on re-creating it now.

@ Chris Love

Xee Universal works great... just set in Pref -> Advanced -> RGB !!

not YUV... then the colors comes ok!

cya

>>339

There are most likely other formats that do not work, even if you do that. .icns might be one.

OK, Xee may seem like it's dead, but this is actually just because of me totally fucking up my development cycle, and suddenly starting to re-design several interal parts of the code at the same time, and then getting distracted by adding other new features on top of that, and then finally having a goddamn hard drive crash and losing like two months of work on the damn thing, and so on, and so on. Lesson learned: Release early, release often, and goddammit, upload the source too. So with that in mind,

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha3.zip

This version has been so long in development I forgot half of the stuff I did. I finally got my Intel mac so it's been fixed up to work correctly on Intel now, at least. However, I still couldn't replicate the antialiaser crash, so nothing has been done about that, except to disable antialiasing by defualt on Intel. If some brave people would try and see if it still crashes under 10.4.8 when they turn it on, that would be very helpful.

Other stuff I can remember:

• Progressive image loading.
• Support for EXIF and other metadata.
• Rotation for any kind of image.
• New saving code.
• Updated JPEG loader.
• Maya IFF loader.
• Scroll wheel behaviour can be customized.
• Scrolling keys can be customized.

Stuff that is broken in this version:

• No lossless JPEG transforms. This is being re-written, because:
• There is a crop option which doesn't do anything really useful yet. It will in the future, however, AND it will support lossless cropping for JPEGs!

Works very well here, thanks.

What ACDSee on Windows had was not only rotate pics but also store them losslessly again. Something for you to implement? Would be awesome!

Besides of that, it seems to work well on my MacBook Pro 17" Intel Duo Core. Great Job

>>344

That's what I'm working on now.

Xee is awesome. It's just the app I've been looking for. Thanks so much for making this app available for us.

I've just tried Alpha 3, and I'm sorry to report the anti-aliasing is still crashing my Core 2 Duo MacBook, running on 10.4.8. :(

For what it's worth, I used to run Xee 2 Alpha 2 on my MacBook Pro, and the anti-aliasing never caused a crash on there. However, it has on this MacBook and the previous one that I exchanged for this one. So I'm wondering if it's related to the integrated 950 graphics chip?

If you'd like me to try any potential fixes, feel free to email me at "jason at resequenced dot com".

Thanks!

> So I'm wondering if it's related to the integrated 950 graphics chip?

It's looking a whole lot like it. None of the Intel machines I've had try it have experienced any crashes, and none of them had the 950 chip.

Xee is a BEST picture viewer for MAC!
Can you put a little option?
When open an image with Xee, then show me full screen automatically.
That's will be PERFECT!
Anyway thx for this cool software!

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha4.zip

Lossless JPEG transforms now work, including cropping - however, there is still no crop tool, so that's not very useful yet. However, this will come soon.

But right now, you can rotate an image, and when you select Save As, you have the option to save it without recompressing. EXIF data and thumbnail should be updated correctly, too.

Awesome to see on the lossless tranforms. I will be making good use of that.

Just for kicks I made my computer crash with the antialiasing bug again, to see if maybe it was fixed by accident in alpha 4. :) Nope, still freezes the screen solid.

PhotoPresenter, Preview and iPhoto all managed to find a way to antialias (eg "resample" or "interpolate") downsized images on my 950 chip without crashing. Maybe you can ask the PhotoPresenter guys how they handled it?

Thanks again for the awesome app.

>>351

It's easy if you use the normal, slow APIs. Xee uses OpenGL all the way, which makes it fast, but also makes antialiasing hard.

That said, there's nothing wrong with the code that is there now that I can think of, and I really suspect this is a bug in the 950 OpenGL driver, which I'll have to work around somehow.

Great program! Are you going to release the source for Xee 2? I desperately need to display arbitrary exif tags in full screen mode.

>>353

It's there in the same directory. If you're thinking of hacking it, be aware that since it's still in alpha, I'm doing some pretty big changes on it constantly, so keep me up to date if you want stuff included.

Finnaly! Great program. I would be very usefull to configure xsee to open in fullscreen mode (like PhoenixSlides) and display important exif info transparent (like PhoenixSlides)

Xee2.0alpha4.zip won't work with my Mac OS X 10.3.9 ?
After unzip, open the application but it just close itself (boucing at the dock for a second and disappear again).

Xee1.2.1.zip works though, but i want to try Xee2Alpha4 version.

Now, here are some fairly big updates:

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha5.zip

• The antialiaser crash on MacBooks should be fixed. I finally found a test machine, and found out that the OpenGL driver for the GMA 950 chipset really does seem to be broken. It reports having eight texture units, but if you try to use more than seven, it crashes. Workaround added, and bug filed with Apple.
• Archive support. Xee can now load files out of any file format that The Unarchiver can read (except for tar.gz and tar.bz2 at the moment, as it needs extra code and doesn't seem useful). To make it work, you need The Unarchiver installed!
• Realtime updates of the file list. Adding, renaming and deleting files (or the directory itself) should now be handled automatically!
• Slightly updated look for the status bar. Still needs some better icons, though - any takers? Designing useful 16x16 icons is hard.

Some of the code is very untested. Please report any and all problems! The more testing you do, the better!

>>356

It probably doesn't support 10.3, no. I might fix that later, but it's hard since I don't have a 10.3 machine to do testing on.

Oh... i'm outta luck then. Can only stick with version 1.2.1. T.T

Some requested features:

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha6.zip

• Automatic slideshow
• Looping images when browsing
• Auto-fullscreen mode
• Some bugfixes

All the new stuff is accessible from the menus (which have also been re-arranged a bit).

Yes! The anti-aliasing problem on the MacBook is indeed fixed. Perfect.

Love the auto-fullscreen mode too. Finally, I feel like I've found a replacement for Irfanview. :)

Thanks again for creating such an awesome program. This will be a huge hit when it's done.

Wow! Archive support is very nice feature. It's really great program. Thank you! :)
But if you add 'Show two pages' feature, xee will be best comic viewer.
Currently, I use cooviewer for archived comics file. I believe xee will replace cooviewer in near future. :D

Thank a ton! Xee is the greatest viewer ever I've seen.

BTW, is it possible to view all the pictures rotated? It is, like a monitor itself is rotated. I have many pictures which was taken vertically. Instead of rotating each images, I just want them to be 'automatically rotated Clockwise or Counter-clockwise'.

Thanks again for great software.

>>365

Well, if your camera has an orientation sensor and writes the orientation data to the file, 2.0 can show it automatically rotated (turn this on in the advanced preferences). If it doesn't, there's currently no way to do that. I guess it would technically be possible to add support for that, but it's kind of a rare situation...

How about an option to automatically move the mouse pointer to keep it on the toolbar button last clicked on? This would be handy for scrolling through directories of pictures of varying size without having to reposition the mouse on the 'Next picture' button.

>>367

There is already the option to not resize windows when clicking in the toolbar, which is on by default. Moving the mouse pointer is generally a big no-no, user interface design-wise.

Some polishing:

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha7.zip

Fixed some full-screen bugs, such as problems with animation. Viewing meta-data in fullscreen now works, and the metadata display is a bit prettier. Made the scroll wheel browsing work a bit better and fixed some pre-caching problems for random skipping.

>>357

Adam Betts made replacement icons a while back (>>251 or http://www.artofadambetts.com/weblog/?p=119). They look really good.

>>370

I tried them earlier, but they don't quite do it for me. I might ask him for some changes and use them, though.

it would be very usefull to display exif info transparent just like in PhoenixSlides

Archive support! Wonderful. A little slow on first load, but a lot of formats are supported. Very nice update.
For an Open Recent menu, would you need to subclass NSDocumentController?

And again!

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha8.zip

• As requested, it is now possible to sort by name, size or time. Also, by default, Xee will try to find out how you were sorting files in the Finder, and use that order.
• Also as requested, there are now keyboard shortcuts for the first ten entries in the destination list. Configurable, of course, along with the rest.
• I have been tracking down and fixing memory leaks. I think I have most of them now, except for those that seem to be inside OS X itself.

xee sucks

personally i install gentoo portage and emerge wine plus use a hacked version of microsoft image viewer you should too

Oops, I broke archive support in alpha 8 (which I didn't notice because it DID work when started from Xcode, but not otherwise). Fixed:

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0alpha9.zip

Been a fan of this program for a few months now - I love it. Version 2.0 alpha 4 works great on my 10.4.8 intel mac, but alpha 9 crashes upon launch. If i can provide any additional help for testing let meknow

PS - regarding "Anonymous"' post on using hacked Microsoft products instead ....>sigh<

>>377

If you can post the crash log, that would help.

Your viewer is AMAZING !!! It's fast, acurate, ... and the antiliazing feature is wonderful ! Congratulations.

Thank you so much! Your work is really fantastic! Alpha 9 works great on my MacBook!

First off, love your program. Something I've noticed. This picture is always deformed when viewed through all of the Universal alphas so far and sometimes crashes. As soon as I figure out how to put up a crash log, I'll do that.

Here you go.

Wow, that is some image. Gecko won't load it, the thumbnailer on this board won't load it. Preview says it's CMYK, so I guess nobody likes those. Well, I'll try to make Xee load it.

Correction: The file is in YCCK, not CMYK. libjpeg has no built-in converter for YCCK to RGB, so I will have to code something up at some point. For now, I've made it not crash, at least.

All right, I think I've got most of the stuff I absolutely want to have in this version. Time for a feature freeze, and switching to beta. Well, probably not a complete feature freeze, but from here on I'll try to mostly do bugfixes and polish.

This means I need more bug reports! Please take some time to really test features in Xee, and tell me of ANYTHING that breaks, or doesn't work like you expect it to!

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0beta1.zip

• Finally, a working crop tool! Big thanks to squeeks for helping me design this. We're still tweaking that, so it's not quite done, but it should be pretty good as it is.
• Some interface tweaks.
• Added a super-dumb CMYK converter to the the JPEG loader, so >>381 loads, even if the colours are a bit off.

The behavior is odd when opening new files from fullscreen, in single-window mode particularly.

May I suggest Xee use the Sparkle framework for updating? This would make it convenient to get the latest betas and test them during development, as well as upgrades for the stable version in time.

Thanks for the great software :)

The crash that I was experiencing with alpha9 no longer occurs after using the version you posted on 2006-12-14 at 18:32. Great application, sir!

The crash that I was experiencing with alpha9 no longer occurs after using the version you posted on 2006-12-14 at 18:32. Great application, sir!

So far, it's opened everything I've thrown at it. No discoloration, either.

One thing I've noticed is that CMD-0 doesn't seem to work on any picture with 2.0 beta 1. Although, going to View > Actual Size does work. Is anyone else experiencing this or is it just my machine?

>>386

Noted and reproduced.

>>387

It looks nice enough, but Sparkle.framework is about half the size of Xee. That doesn't really make it very appealing to bundle with every download.

>>390

Oh. That is because I added Cmd-0 as a shortcut for "Copy to tenth destination", since Cmd-1 to Cmd-9 are the first nine ones. I guess that's a problem. Maybe I'll just remove the tenth shortcut...

>>390

Also: To work around it, open the keyboard shortcuts and remove the other shortcut.

Cool. I didn't even think about that... Yep, works fine. Everything's good.

Hi!
Is there an option or setting to remember rotated images? When I'm rotating an image and I browse back, it's unrotated again?!

I love xee, and it has replaced preview on my powerbook! Many thanks! it crashes somewhat (1.2.1) more often that I'd like but it's still feature rich and i love the intuitive keyboard navigation, it's a total oreo cookie! (ie: good :)

I love xee, and it has replaced preview on my powerbook! Many thanks! it crashes somewhat (1.2.1) more often that I'd like but it's still feature rich and i love the intuitive keyboard navigation, it's a total oreo cookie! (ie: good :)

I love xee, and it has replaced preview on my powerbook! Many thanks! it crashes somewhat (1.2.1) more often that I'd like but it's still feature rich and i love the intuitive keyboard navigation, it's a total oreo cookie! (ie: good :)

>>394

Right now, you have to save pictures explicitly to keep the rotation. I might add some kind of optional auto-save. I haven't quite worked out how I want that to work.

>>395

Try to see if the beta 2.0 crashes any less. If it still crashes, post me some crash logs.

About the rotation:
I see.. hoping this feature will be in any next future's version ;)))
I'm using the old version again, because I need that... :(

>>399

It's definitely one thing I need to fix before the final 2.0 version.

hey, thank you for adding the "move to" shortcuts! very appreciated

the beta seems to work very nicely(ppc)
3 things:

-a "crop" button in the toolbar is needed
-in the like keyboard configuration window within preferences the x apparently does nothing at all. also, to change the key combinationits it is awkward to have make a whole new button and delete the old one you should be able to change a key combo in one step.
-movie placeholders (its alright if its not gonna happen. would be very cool though)

thank you very very much

> a "crop" button in the toolbar is needed

Yes.

> in the like keyboard configuration window within preferences the x apparently does nothing at all.

It should restore the shortcut to defaults. I guess it should be disabled if they are already set to the defaults.

> also, to change the key combinationits it is awkward to have make a whole new button and delete the old one you should be able to change a key combo in one step.

Granted, but I am not sure what to do instead - I don't think it's very friendly to make other keyboard shortcuts disappear silently, either. As it is now, you can at least drag the old one to the new action.

> movie placeholders (its alright if its not gonna happen. would be very cool though)

Theoretically, I could even make movies PLAY in Xee without too much effort, but that's definitely feature bloat. Not sure what I'll do about this.

EXCELENT PROGRAM!!!, congrats!!! The best image brouser for MAC. Im using macbook dual core 2, and the only bug i find is when i rotate the image and save it (without recompression) it saves the file replacing the old one but the program after doing that crashes and closes. I dont know why. Also the ^save lossessly^option in the menu appears in grey, maybe im doing something wrong.
I use in windows xp irfanview and the only thing i miss is that u can edit the image gamma, histogram, contrast...
Good job on the cropping tool!!!

Date/Time: 2006-12-26 13:51:19.568 -0600
OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8N1106)
Report Version: 4

Command: Xee
Path: /Applications/Multimedia/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee
Parent: WindowServer [52]

Version: ??? (2.0 beta 1)

PID: 1715
Thread: 1

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x65426c6c

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082b2f3 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ab0e CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92ddabef RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 285
4 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dda2fd ReceiveNextEventCommon + 385
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dda154 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 81
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x9325f465 _DPSNextEvent + 572
7 com.apple.AppKit 0x9325f056 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 137
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x93258ddb -[NSApplication run] + 512
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x9324cd2f NSApplicationMain + 573
10 cx.c3.xee 0x00002292 _start + 216
11 cx.c3.xee 0x000021b9 start + 41

Thread 1 Crashed:
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90a564c7 objc_msgSend + 23
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x925f836c forkThreadForFunction + 123
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024427 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x9264e2f8 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 39
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x93336270 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 377
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x925f836c forkThreadForFunction + 123
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082b2f3 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ab0e CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9146541e HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 158
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91465239 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900268bc kevent + 12
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb5f84 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024427 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb6129 MPWaitOnQueue + 198
2 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9251e943 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 143
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb5f84 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 1 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x65426c6c ebx: 0xb009ded4 ecx: 0x00081d40 edx: 0x900268bc
edi: 0x65426c74 esi: 0x003ad920 ebp: 0xb009df08 esp: 0xb009dea4
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010206 eip: 0x90a564c7 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

>>403

The "Save losslessly" option isn't properly implemented yet, so that's why it's grey. I'll have a look at that crash, though. Thanks!

Xee turns out to be the easiest to use image viewer for my 59 year old mother, who is using her iBook for 1 month now.
So great work!

But we had a problem this day. She has a lot of picture-CDs of her friends. When watching them, there's often the need to rotate an image. This is not possible with Xee. When the volume is write-protected you get an error-message.

It's also not possible to rotate non-jpeg images.

Is there a particular philosophy behind these two points or are you working on implementing these functionalities?

Me again!

Found your 2.0beta1. Both of my mentionned points in post #406 are already implemented. Great!!

One additional little point:
Pictures should be resized to window (or screen in fullscreen) after rotation.

>>406
You say "She has a lot of picture-CDs of her friends. When watching them, there's often the need to rotate an image. This is not possible with Xee. When the volume is write-protected you get an error-message."
You can't change something that is read-only, such as a CD-ROM or CD-R! I don't see how this could be now "already implemented". Unless you save some sort of cached metadata.

>>408 I don't think he's trying to save the rotation, just rotate temporarily, and that was what was failing before.

>>402

> Theoretically, I could even make movies PLAY in Xee without too much effort, but that's definitely feature bloat. Not sure what I'll do about this.

Please don't. If would make sense if Xee offered a directory view with thumbnail previews but as it is right now, Xee is an image browser. There are other programs to let you preview/view a batch of movies sequentially.

Any way to turn off the delete confirmation box when clicking the Delete button on the toolbar?

>>385

For some reason with this build, I have an odd problem with viewing large amounts of images on a network share. I cannot reproduce this on local directories. It's a bit difficult to explain but here goes.

Say I go through a directory with more than a hundred or so images, all rather large (think manga) and then I use finder to go to a different directory and double-click an image to open it in Xee. Sometimes a problem will occur where Xee will resize itself to the dimensions of the image but will display nothing but black. When Xee is like this, I can't navigate to other images either.

Trying to open another image through the finder will only get another all-black image. Trying to bring up the open dialogue inside Xee will just cause it to eat up CPU. Here's the sample log on Xee when it's in that locked-up state:

Analysis of sampling pid 2429 every 10.000000 milliseconds
Call graph:
    300 Thread_0f07
      300 start
        300 _start
          300 NSApplicationMain
            300 -[NSApplication run]
              300 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:]
                300 _DPSNextEvent
                  300 _NSHandleCarbonMenuEvent
                    300 -[NSCarbonMenuImpl performActionWithHighlightingForItemAtIndex:]
                      300 -[NSMenu performActionForItemAtIndex:]
                        300 -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:]
                          300 -[XeeDelegate openDocument:]
                            300 -[NSSavePanel(NSSavePanelRuntime) runModalForTypes:]
                              300 -[NSSavePanel(NSSavePanelRuntime) runModalForDirectory:file:types:]
                                300 -[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]
                                  300 -[NSApplication beginModalSessionForWindow:]
                                    300 -[NSApplication _commonBeginModalSessionForWindow:relativeToWindow:modalDelegate:didEndSelector:contextInfo:]
                                      300 -[NSApplication _orderFrontModalWindow:relativeToWindow:]
                                        300 -[NSWindow _reallyDoOrderWindow:relativeTo:findKey:forCounter:force:isModal:]
                                          300 -[NSWindow _commonAwake]
                                            300 -[NSWindow(NSDrag) _registerDragTypesIfNeeded]
                                              300 -[NSWindow(NSDrag) _registerDragTypes:]
                                                300 -[NSView(NSDrag) _addDragTypesTo:]
                                                  300 objc_msgSend
                                                    300 objc_msgSend
    300 Thread_1003
      300 _pthread_body
        300 __ape_agent
          300 mach_msg_trap
            300 mach_msg_trap
    300 Thread_1103
      300 _pthread_body
        300 forkThreadForFunction
          300 kevent
            300 kevent

Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):

Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
        kevent        300
        mach_msg_trap        300
        objc_msgSend        300
Sample analysis of process 2429 written to file /dev/stdout
Sampling process 2429 each 10 msecs 300 times

Intel Mac mini on 10.4.8

WAHa,

this a great little app. Needed something that would flip thru photos. u did good though I haven't tested it throughly.

ohh, does need one thing. Using the X button really should close the app program unless another is open.

>>414
No. That's not how Mac apps work.
At least, that's not how they should work, according to the HIG.

>>412

I've been trying, but I can't reproduce this. Can you figure out a solid way to reproduce it? Also, what kind of network share?

>>416
I can't reproduce it consistently in the sense that I can't figure out why if I view one set of images in one directory, I can trigger the problem always but if I go through another directory of a similar number of images, it won't trigger. But for known 'bad' directories, I can definitely reproduce the bug consistently.

It's a CIFS share off a Win2K3 server. I can confirm that I had no problems using the stable version of Xee and did not recall any problem using the early Intel betas either.

>>416
On a side note, can I again make a request for AppleScripting support?

>>417

Does opening an image in a directory, and then clicking another image there (to re-use the same window), and then doing stuff cause the problem? Because I've found and fixed a bug relating to that already.

Also, I want AppleScripting too but it won't be in 2.0, I'm trying to polish that off and release it now without adding anything new. Also if somebody with more experience with AppleScript than me wants to help me out with it, that would be appreciated because I don't have much of a clue how it should be done.

>>419
Doesn't seem to trigger it in that case. This bug is actually bugging me a lot because it essentially all my manga are stored on a network share so I run into this pretty much every other volume of reading. If you want me to run a special build that outputs lots and lots of output and debug messages, I'm up for it as long as it helps.

o key bindings doesn't seem to stay; after a restart they are either gone or have multipled (tested on G4 only); e.g. setting "L" to loop, after a restart you can find "L" several times in the list
o maybe the default OSX print dialog would be nice; I know it's a viewer but sometimes for quick printing...
nice work anyway

>>421

What version?

this one: http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0beta1.zip
problem exists even with a clean cx.c3.xee.plist
It also occurs with a "clean" account (in this case root which isn't spoiled by any customizations); The "L" is funny as it really gets multiplied; I set horizontal and vertical mirror to "H" and "V", which are kept after a restart of the programm but doesn't work
I haven't tested it yet on intel mac

>>423

All right, I see the problem. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks!

All right, I think I've finally got all the GUI tweaks in, and everything should now work! I also fixed most of the reported bugs, except for the network share one which I haven't gotten around to reproducing yet. Hopefully, though, the program should be nearly ready for release now, except for translations, which I'm going to try and get arranged now, at least for Japanese.

So! If you don't report bugs now, they won't get fixed in the final version!

http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/mac/Xee2.0beta2.zip

for some reason the Xee2.0 beta2 is still significantly slower on my old PB G4 1.25 Ghz than Xee 1.21 while loading larger JPEG images (both versions set to YUV). While 1.21 loads them almost instantaneously, 2.0b2 seems to need more memory. hope this is not related to the universal binary...

I really like Xee and I have two suggestions:

• It would be nice if it lets me copy only the selected area of an image when I use the crop tool. (and of course a new-image-from-clipboard option, just like Preview, would be welcomed)
• I think it really needs to display scrollbars when seeing a bigger than your display resolution image. Without scrollbars you don't know if you see the whole image or a part of it.

Thank you and keep up the good work!

>>426

That is still strange, because most of my own tests suggest it should be about as fast or a little faster. I could add a hidden option to turn off the progressive display, in case that is causing trouble on some old graphics chip...

>>427

It's not really a select tool and more just a crop tool, so I dunno. You can always just apply the cropping and then copy. Also, just press cmd-V to make a new image from the clipboard.

The scrollbars, I dunno. Not only is the standard scrollbar code on OS X pretty buggy, it'd also most likely be slower at scrolling if it had to draw the scrollbars too, and they'd clutter up the interface. Normally you would expect them, but ACDSee, which I am copying to a large extent, doesn't have them either.

Xee2.0beta2 fixes the problem with Cmd-0 I was experiencing with 2.0beta1, but now I can't open Help > Keyboard Shortcuts... The menu item simply flashes and goes away, as it should... And, that's it. Nothing else comes up. It doesn't display Keyboard Shortcuts. I tried deleting cx.c3.xee.plist, but that didn't resolve the problem. Thanks again.

>>429

Hmm, it works fine here. Can you open the preferences normally?

>>430

I just discovered this. I opened it up through Preferences (which, to answer your question, works fine). Then, I went back to Help > Keyboard Shortcuts (KS) and now it works. But, if I quit Xee and go to Help > KS it's back to square one; it doesn't open. But, it will if I open it through Preferences first, again. Looks like a simple bug.

>>431

Oh! I get it, it IS a very simple bug. Thanks for catching that.

>>425
My problem with the network shares still persists in this version but here's some more info.

When my problem occurs, the status bar will say "Cannot display image" and the window/canvas will be black. Using the file open dialogue inside Xee will crash. In the previous beta, Xee would just drive up CPU utilisation.

Here's the crash log in case it helps:

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000020

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   libobjc.A.dylib      	0x90a54380 objc_msgSend + 16
1   com.apple.AppKit     	0x9335c070 -[NSView(NSDrag) _addDragTypesTo:] + 55
2   com.apple.AppKit     	0x9335bec6 -[NSWindow(NSDrag) _registerDragTypes:] + 120
3   com.apple.AppKit     	0x932e8e6f -[NSWindow(NSDrag) _registerDragTypesIfNeeded] + 66
4   com.apple.AppKit     	0x932e79ef -[NSWindow _commonAwake] + 2575
5   com.apple.AppKit     	0x932900af -[NSWindow _reallyDoOrderWindow:relativeTo:findKey:forCounter:force:isModal:] + 512
6   com.apple.AppKit     	0x93339854 -[NSApplication _orderFrontModalWindow:relativeToWindow:] + 686
7   com.apple.AppKit     	0x9333933a -[NSApplication _commonBeginModalSessionForWindow:relativeToWindow:modalDelegate:didEndSelector:contextInfo:] + 678
8   com.apple.AppKit     	0x9333908e -[NSApplication beginModalSessionForWindow:] + 72
9   com.apple.AppKit     	0x93338f6d -[NSApplication runModalForWindow:] + 109
10  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9345ee20 -[NSSavePanel(NSSavePanelRuntime) runModalForDirectory:file:types:] + 218
11  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9345ec31 -[NSSavePanel(NSSavePanelRuntime) runModalForTypes:] + 71
12  cx.c3.xee            	0x0000c522 -[XeeDelegate openDocument:] + 188
13  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9335cd88 -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 107
14  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9340ace7 -[NSMenu performActionForItemAtIndex:] + 455
15  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9340aa29 -[NSCarbonMenuImpl performActionWithHighlightingForItemAtIndex:] + 103
16  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9333be16 _NSHandleCarbonMenuEvent + 477
17  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9326f7fc _DPSNextEvent + 1491
18  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9326f056 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 137
19  com.apple.AppKit     	0x93268ddb -[NSApplication run] + 512
20  com.apple.AppKit     	0x9325cd2f NSApplicationMain + 573
21  cx.c3.xee            	0x00002db2 _start + 216
22  cx.c3.xee            	0x00002cd9 start + 41

Thread 1:
0   libSystem.B.dylib    	0x90009857 mach_msg_trap + 7
1   com.unsanity.ape     	0xc0001cac __ape_agent + 307
2   libSystem.B.dylib    	0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib    	0x900268bc kevent + 12
1   com.apple.Foundation 	0x925f536c forkThreadForFunction + 123
2   libSystem.B.dylib    	0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x00000000    ebx: 0x925f0f26 ecx: 0x90a65c00 edx: 0x16a8f650
  edi: 0x00000004    esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbffff0b8 esp: 0xbfffee58
   ss: 0x0000001f    efl: 0x00210202 eip: 0x90a54380  cs: 0x00000017
   ds: 0x0000001f     es: 0x0000001f  fs: 0x00000000  gs: 0x00000037

>>434

> com.unsanity.ape

First, try disabling that and see if the problem persists.

>>435

I just tried disabling all my APE extensions but I can still crash Xee using the same steps. Though, the crash log is much shorter:

Command: Xee
Path:    /Applications/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee
Parent:  WindowServer [60]

Version: ??? (2.0 beta 2)

PID:    3776
Thread: Unknown

Link (dyld) error:

image not found