I figured since the threads about the English *chans on the English *chans' own fora usually create drama, flamewars and trolling since the respective community usually gets defensive about "its own site", this could be a good place to talk about them, even though the board is losely associated with WAKAchan.
Don't let that bother you, though. This board and the idea for it have been older than WAKAchan. It won't really matter where you are coming from or if you even want to talk about an English *chan (4chan, iichan, 5chan, fchan, 0chan, etc.) at all or rather about a Japanese, Chinese or Taiwanese *chan, imageboard or whatever. Rational arguments above usernames and community cliques!
This thread should just serve the use to make a few remarks about a particular imageboard site / community, how they relate to each other, what differences, opportunities, etc. there could be, both from a technical standpoint as well as from a "sociological" standpoint, if you want to talk about that. And of course, there's more...
Please try to refrain from trolling this thread too much. Also, please don't pay any trolls herein too much attention, i.e. don't feed them. Let's keep this civil, everyone!
>I would really like to see the concept of an image board divorce itself from Japanophilia/otakuism.
I totally agree with you, anonymous image boards is a great concept that has a lot bigger potential than swapping anime-images and porn between nerds.
MAEboard attempted to do this with a computer-board, but it was still reeking of otakuness. Also, I would like to see more use of anonymous discussion-boards, as those are a lot better than the "old-fashioned" forum-software (like Shii would say).
People in the west haven't realized how good this yet.
First off, I'll note that I agree entirely with >>1's thoughts on this board and this discussion topic. Next:
> Furthermore, the 5chan-idlechan war (or whatever it was) was unnecessary, unproductive, self-destructive.
True. However biased I may be, though, I'd put most of the blame for that on Zabadab and his shadowy backers in the porn industry. And with him gone, the whole community has been much more quiet. I didn't hate 5chan as a site enough to wish it gone forever, but if it was the only way to get rid of him, then we're better off with the whole site gone.
The reason I disliked 5chan had more to do with how it was designed more for swapping obsessively categorized porn than for any kind of community or discussion.
> I would really like to see the concept of an image board divorce itself from Japanophilia/otakuism.
Now, personally, I am quite the otaku and do enjoy the anime-themed boards, but I agree that there is a lot more potential for other things. The image board concept is just not well-known enough in the west outside the anime community for anything to really happen yet, though. That needs to change, but I am not sure how.
Also, we need an English-language Coaster Board! (http://101fwy.com/coaster/index.htm)
You know what I mean. Also, "channel" isn't that limited to imageboards in association (2channel (= 2ch.net) comes to mind).
2ch is also called 2-chan. There's not really a distinction there.
I dunno, I just find "*chans" awkward to read. "english imageboards"?
Well, I didn't want to exclude non-English imageboards, and just "imageboards" sounded to general to me - but it probably isn't.
Yeah, "imageboards" is a good term. Or "image boards", what with "The Society for the Study of Modern Image Board Culture" and all, heh.
> I would really like to see the concept of an image board divorce itself from Japanophilia/otakuism.
I don't really know what you mean by that. To an extent, that has already happened, and the software is free to get and sometimes even free to set up, so the option is there. Thus, it ultimately depends on whether the people want this and what it exactly should be that they want, what kind of image board site / community / whatever. But what's in expressing this devotional desire for "an image board" to "divorce itself from Japanophilia/otakuism"? I mean, who cares? Not even the people who will set the coming imageboards up themselves. Why should they?
> The image board concept is just not well-known enough in the west outside the anime community for anything to really happen yet, though. That needs to change, but I am not sure how.
Porn. Prior to my whole experience with futaba and all, I have already seen European-based porn trade sites set up image-sharing software that was very similiar to what your new Kareha (http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1106099822) was like, although much more primitive, restrictive and under the label of "user galleries".
And if this takes up in popularity again, it will probably start with a lot of porn, too. Wasn't there even one gang of pedo trolls on iichan in its latter days that kept posting screenshots of their little pedophilia Wakaba they set up (I am talking photos of real children here)?
We may not like this, users of the "classic imageboards" and their developers and admins alike, but porn, even the most vile sort of it, will probably drive this to become really popular - or infamous. Things we don't like, contentwise, will come up eventually. And there's little for each one of us to do or say in regards to what should be the content of these imageboards or in what proportions.
Probably the best thing to do for each one of us is to "keep up the good work". Keep on posting on the communities you like. Set up and maintain imageboards you think serve good and enjoyable purposes. Get in contact and engange with the community (as difficult as that may be in the middle of sitewars, flames, trolls, etc.). Spread the gospel to other media. Just anything to keep the things we love about this whole spiel as alive and vital as possible for us.
> Just anything to keep the things we love about this whole spiel as alive and vital as possible for us.
And as one of those otakuist/japanophile, I want to add the possibility to get in contact with "our overlords" concerning this whole enterprise. Imageboards did get as popular and did not evolve as much in Japan for a set of reasons, most of which aren't really classified or properly examined yet (already existing otaku/visual culture, almost limitless bandwidth come to mind). In short: I think there's still a lot to learn and maybe even to work on, mutually. in the future. I think it would just ammount to a voluntarily self-blinding if that option would not at least be considered.
In more concrete words: Didn't WAHa once come up with the idea of getting in contact with the people of the 101Freeway posse (http://www.101fwy.com/) once? They seem to be in good spirits and linkage with quite a pack of other small communities. Maybe there's some chance to set something up. Of course, that's going to be difficult. The admin of the Magical Lounge, for instance, didn't react that much at all to our first, shy advances (concerning their spam problems back then, which still persist). Language barriers and all that are a problem here, of course. "What Is To Be Done?" (- Lenin)
I'd love to see an active completely "safe" board of some sort evolve into being somewhere. It's not about work-cowardice or morality or anything, but rather about having some place to link which is completely safe - preferrably not nerdy either, people tend to be so sensitive to anything not pink and fluffy.
That way, people could link there either to show off some post or to show how cool the entire system is. If people would realized that they can setup something similar themselves, they'd trick themselves into thinking that they can make something really cool, and every now and then someone might just manage to do that.
Outside of the *chan realm, I've seen one gun website which had imageboard software...once again, it was a lot more crappy than what we have around here, but the basic working system was there.
The problem with the internet is that it is open to pretty much everyone, especially image board software based sites. Do you know why goatse.cx got suspended? Because the complainant saw it pop up in the online fora of the United Nations.
What I want to say is that trolls, smutpendlers and everything that is not dear to the eyes of some will eventually find its way along on the internet. Sure, on some sites with little traffic months might pass before this happens, but in the end, it will, if only for a little time.
Today I want to make a few remarks about NSWF boards: Either you make them NSFW and then go with it and deal with what "free speech" gives you or you limit the use - but then it's not NSFW. WAKAchan's /b/ annoys the hell out of me right now because it can neither decide on what it wants to be (thus it lacks a basic form of sincerity) and the users' constant whining about some content being "not random enough" reminds me of when 4chan went down and the /b/tards started posting 4chan NETA pics on 5chan's random board, eliciting the same kind of comments and outrage from the whiney 5chan folk.
/b/ or "Random" should stand for mayhem, melodrama, disgust and bewilderment. Any attempts at restricting and taming this spirit will neccessarily result in something else and most likely in something lamer than what the random boards on 4chan, Futaba, Siokara, etc. are like. My advice for WAKAchan is to simply admit that their /b/ is not meant to be NSFW and just go with that. At least that would be an honest attitude.
Reason given for the new rule on 4chan's /d/ ("No beasts"):
> Souldark !B.xVc1Wndg 02/27/05(Sun)22:42 No.54827
> Simply put, we group and make the rules.
> From the feedback we'd received, and from personal moderator preference, we've decided that we don't like to see beastiality of any form on 4chan, save for /b/.
> That's the way it is. If you were going to donate the better part of your mother's trust fund to 4chan, and have now had a change of heart, then so be it.
> We really don't need to hear how you were "going to donate to 4chan, and now won't." Plenty of people who actually give a shit about the site and it's development are more prepared to step up and pay out a little for their pleasure.
> Case fucking closed, thread fucking closed. We're not giving a reason for the removal, because it's a private and staff matter.
> 4chan is a privilege, not a right - all we ask is a bit of support for the site, and perhaps a view of the big picture. If you're too short-sighted to see past your intimate connection to one fetish, then you're probably one of the posters we don't really need.
This is a pretty fucking lame kind of moral hipocrisy I had not expected from the 4chan staff. I am seriously surprised and angry enough to wish for this decision to ruin their /d/ board as much as it is able to. I know I will not contribute any pics to that board anymore (hi burichan & iichan).
To be fair, it's not far removed from wakachan's "no guro/loli ever" policy, but at least Lain makes a decent effort to rationalize that instead of telling us complete bullshit like "it's a staff matter" and "wakachan is a privilege, not a right." And doesn't alternately beg & threaten for donations, donations, donations.
To be fair, it's not far removed from wakachan's "no guro/loli ever" policy, but at least Lain makes a decent effort to rationalize that instead of telling us complete bullshit like "it's a staff matter" and "wakachan is a privilege, not a right." And doesn't alternately beg & threaten for donations, donations, donations.
>>16
You're a dipshit.
If you dont like 4chan's policies, then dont go there. The creators of these imageboards have no obligation to you. They're providing a free service, and they get to decide how that service is implemented.
When you moderate your own imageboard, you can make the rules. Until that time,quit being a whiney cocksucker.
> I know I will not contribute any pics to that board anymore (hi burichan & iichan).
That is our whole point.
> the users' constant whining about some content being "not random enough"
I'm pretty sure anyone who says that is just trolling...
Which is why your goal to ever be like Futaba will never come true. You guys can't handle a little anarchy and diversity in taste.
If "no diversity" or "not random enough" means that I can look at WAKAchan's /b/ and find an interesting assortment of goofy or random pictures without having to stumble across a picture of a man butt-fucking a dog or a woman shitting a rainbow of diarrhea on her face, so be it. I come here for entertainment, not disgust.
4chan will never be like Futaba, because it has more than zero moderators.
How is dog sex "diversity in taste"?
> I come here
I wasn't even talking about "here", you steaming pile of half-witted dumbshit.
Oh Anonymous, what won't you post?
If you are referring to me: I have always contributed quality stuff to 4chan (not just BEASTSEX in /d/, but a broade range on all boards), as well as idlechan/iichan and until recently, WAKAchan and 4chan. I have at times stopped contributing to all of those major boards because of issues I had with their respective moderating / administering. Never threw a hissy-fit because of it, and I don't think that I did so in >>15 either. I was just ranting, 's all. And I do not think that THE 4CHAN TEAM is somehow required or likely to take my opinion into account. I am still voicing it here, since I am free to do so (which I would not be at 4chan). There's really no need for any 4chan fan or mod to repeat the generic replies and flames that would come up in any other critical /dis/ thread over there before it would eventually get threadstopped.
>>14
"Random" defies classification out of necessity. Randomness is an equal-probability mixture of anything, be it cute, morbid, insightful, braindead, fluffy, grotesque, dramatic, plain, unique or more or the same. You click the link fully expecting to be surprised and it still surprises you.
To say that random should stand for "mayhem, melodrama, disgust and bewilderment" is to argue against the same point you're trying to make: that you can't put any restriction on random board if it is to remain random.
/b/ is not merely a place to dump everything that doesn't belong elsewhere. It's a place to dump everything, whether it belongs elsewhere or not. The beauty of non-classification is that you don't have to deal with the frustration of digging deep to find something of interest and not finding it. It finds you.
> To say that random should stand for "mayhem, melodrama, disgust and bewilderment" is to argue against the same point you're trying to make: that you can't put any restriction on random board if it is to remain random.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. "Should" in my sentence signifies a moral judgement (based on my personal opinion) with the content or direction you think I was limiting my statement to, but the contrary is true: I believe the WAKAchan admins tried to limit their /b/ to less than that - which I thought I had formulated out rather understandable in indicative modes in the rest of my comment.
Awesome moment in world4ch history:
http://www.world4ch.org/read.php/opdis/1103906923/220
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Shii##6qOZWkcNM2odoz2 at 24 Mar 2005: 03:03
I don't have any sort of admin access to world4ch anymore. Also, moot banned me from 4chan. Currently I don't know why that is.
I want to say that wtfux.org is doing a pretty damn good job at what it is doing.
4chan's new furry board, /fur/, introduced on April 1st but obviously as a joke on those who thought it would be a joke, is going to stay, as it seems. This can only be explained by moot having a heavy substance addiction additionally to the server bills he must pay, so the donations he gets from his money-laundering pedo project not4chan wasn't enough anymore. He had to suck up to the furries and break his age-old promise to never, ever set up a furry board on 4chan. A sad day for the *chans indeed. Anonymous over and out.
Also: The name WAKAchan likely only got chosen because of the connection to Wakaba and its author who are more or less the only redeeming feature of WAKAchan. A more appropriate and less advertising name would probably be Kiddychan or PG13chan
If you check it now, that board is off (it's still on the navbar, but the board itself is 404'd) and apparently all users who posted there were banned for breaking the rule of "no furry content outside of /b/."
It was probably some sort of delayed reaction just to lull the furry crowd into a false sense of security.
I see and stand corrected. Big props to moot & "The Team" for this one!
http://henshinnet.sytes.net/imgboard/
After a little drama, Noelle's board has gone 404.
kiddychan would be no good because it would make it sound like it is distibuting kiddy porn and you talk like wakachan has no adult parts to it, why don't you click on that section that says "adult" and check some of the boards there and still tell me that it is "tame" or "childish" and besides that, do you mean to tell me that in order for an image board to be "redeaming" it has to have an excesive amount of porn on it?
ok I am not going to be nice to you, infact I am going to be blunt. First off, how the hell do you think moot is getting any money off of this at all, he is getting just enough money to pay for the servers from 4chan from the ads on the site, and not4chan has NOTHING to do with him other then it is run by a friend and they suport one another and even if he did keep /fur/ up what would be the big deal, he is catering to the people that go to his site and some of them actualy do like furries, evidently he didn't do that, but still even if he did you would have no right to get all pissy about it, grow up man.
I am not talking about porn, I am talking about WAKAchan's silly safe-for-work atttitude (hiding /b/ behind a warning page, etc.). Grow up, man.
> By entering this section of the website you (the user) hereby acknowledge the following:
> 1. Images and links contained on the 4chan website may not be suitable for minors. A minor is classified as someone younger than 18 years of age (may vary in your place of residence). If it is illegal for you to view the materials contained on these boards, do not proceed
4chan more like juniorchan am I rite?
Well, that's footnotes and you don't actually have to click on "I AGREE" every single time you want to enter (although it used to be that way B.W.T.S. (before wtsnacks))
There's some decent arguments in favour of not allowing adult material (I still utterly hate the term "worksafe"). The main one being that it draws in the wrong crowd - I am not saying that only idiots like porn, but there are quite a number of people who'll only visit the site for the porn, and who will at best only leech, or at worst, post (teenage l33tzor kids looking for porn aren't the most interesting people to engage in discussion). By disallowing porn you attract people who are a bit more dedicated. Of course, you also attract less people.
I'm not saying that's a rock-solid argument, but there is something to it.
That said, I do enjoy 2chan's approach of putting everything in with everything else, but around these parts, people whine too much for it to quite work.
> there are quite a number of people who'll only visit the site for the porn, and who will at best only leech, or at worst, post
I agree. Especially at burichan, the leeching idiots who bump threads all the time with their retarded "zOMG SOURCE NOW!" really get on my nerves.
> That said, I do enjoy 2chan's approach of putting everything in with everything else, but around these parts, people whine too much for it to quite work.
Also signed. You have to be able to let go and let some chaos happen if you want something to really live - I suppose the control freak kind of nature most English admins have shown so far is a vestige from other internet attitudes (register-forums, heavy modding, internet personalities, etc.)
Futaba's /b/ is a great example of a GOLDEN board but even 4chan's /b/ has a long way to go until they'll arrive there. They are surprisingly close, though.
>>36
Actually, it was just because Snacks wanted to go to bed.
> It's just another miscellaneous board with WAKAchan syndrome.
I am afraid you don't get WAKAchan. That's okay, though, most people don't.
> The only special thing is that most boards aren't owned by people banned from 4chan for posting "child models".
lol
> I am afraid you don't get WAKAchan. That's okay, though, most people don't.
"WAKAchan syndrome" -> "entire boards with only one person posting"
> "WAKAchan syndrome" -> "entire boards with only one person posting"
WTFUX has more active posters than WAKAchan has.
Also, every English image board has considerably less posters than 4chan has. So what? Almost the same holds true for Futaba. There is only one other big Japanese imageboard conglomerate (gazo-box) and even that one does not nearly have as many posts as the nation's overlord.
>>52
I don't mind WTFux not getting that much attention. My users get what they want and everything seems to be running smoothly. Although, WTfux being labeled as the 4chan troll hangout is a bit annoying. Yes, many banned members of 4chan are frequent visitors to the site, but (for the most part) they've made it a home. The comment I get most often is, "Why would I want to go back to 4chan? I have everything I need here."
The whole WAKAchan (at least .net) being taken over by iichan.net stinks and shows that the admins (mainly Lain, I assume) have no idea what they are doing and are largely rampaging with their incompetence. WAKAchan was a cool idea of a distributed network, iichan was only a 4chan replacement. Why bring it back (or rather: disguise WAKAchan with the new iichan portal)? Only to please Spiner's ego?
Also, Ghost Freeman!l5AyTkykmA is a fucking faggot and a humongous retard.
Some thing that came to my mind a few weeks ago when /cam/ was temporarily added to wakachan.org....
All imagebord communities are elitist in their own way. Mention another imageboard (other than Japanese ones perhaps) and you instantly get flamed from the local posse, either aggressively like on wtfux or defensive as on wakachan or plain out retarded and dumb like on 4chan.
The funny thing is that this kind of hostility and arrogance is, in general, what all imageboard communites share - it is not something that would set them apart and by that make them special in any way (and wasn't being special the justification for being elitist in the first place?).
Anyway, I just think people should be friendlier towards each other. And if you really care about your imageboard community, don't go elsewhere to flame (okay, maybe on 4chan's /b/) and if you encounter a troll on your boards, ignore them or ridicule them.
And yelling out loud all the time how your imageboard is better than all the others doesn't make you look cool. It makes you look like a troll with an inferiority complex.
Over the last few months, I have learned that 4chan = SomethingAwfulchan
They wouldn't want it elsewise, and they even couldn't be anything else
The whole place is useless except for /t/
Here's an interesting thought expiriment for you:
Say that somebody from yahoo's R&D labs saw iichan/wakachan/4chan/the wakaba software, and pitched the idea to his bosses. They spring on it, and create a large imageboard group a la their groups pages (which are havens for free porn and all matter of nasty things).
What would happen?
>>56
It might be enlightening to look up The Robber's Cave, an experiment in social psychology in the 1950's.
People form groups very easily. More recently it's been noted that people can form groups for something as asinine as whether their coin flipped heads or tails. Really. And they'll go the extra mile for their ingroup.
So I'm not surprised there's the incessant bickering in the *chan community. I like to think IIchan is above that, but I'd be deluding myself.
We're all one big happy family, right? Right?
I wish 4chan could repair their cookie stuff
sage won't be saved, unicode names get garbled...
> unicode names get garbled
God, this one is a total pain in the ass to fix.
Quiet, you cannot even fix the cookies set on here
hehe. It would also help certain people would stop acting like they were 12 years old.
Maybe certain people are 12 years old?
Anyway, >>67 is DQN
While we're at discussing username functionality, how do I get a blank field for the name? In Kareha and Wakaba, I just submit a space but that doesn't work in Futallaby - I know it works somehow in Futallaby, I just don't know how.
I want to pull a 「」
How about a non-breaking space? Alt-0-1-6-0 on the keypad, or just cut-and-paste: -> <-.
Will probably put in a little underline when you sage, though.
how odd.
part two
>>70
No, I want the field to be appear as absolutely empty, not with a space in it.
> Base64-encode it?
Then you'd have to convert UTF-8 encoding to real unicode codepoints in the script, and that's a pain in the ass too. The real trick is that you have to use the %x1234 URL encodings for unicode characters in the cookie strings, but that might mean you have to write your own cookie handling code, AND you have to convert character sets appropriately, especially if the board is not using UTF-8. In PHP it probably depends on which version you're running.
> What if we don't use Windoze?
Linux has some sort of alt-keypad trick too, I forget the details. It's much the same as in Windows, though. Or just cut-and-paste!
> No, I want the field to be appear as absolutely empty, not with a space in it.
There's a few zero-width unicode characters you might use, I think... I remember coda playing with that on some test installation of Kareha. It was some sort of RIGHT-->LEFT switching character.
Posting with a U+202D Left-To-Right Override as my name, and sage.
U+ is just the standard unicode notation. Best way is to open up charmap and use the go to character function. Or you can try using ‭ or ‭, most unicode-aware boards should support that.
Incidentially, the reason those last two work is a really annoying mis-design of HTTP - there's no way to tell the difference between a user typing in ‭, or the web browser converting a unicode character to that entity when sending the content of a form. I'm having to use entity tricks to get these strings to display at all - I'm writing them as &#x202d;.
>>75
Heh, then it's up to you to decide what's more of a pain in the ass. UTF-8 to the correct codepoints, or the long hex notation.
Correct me if I'm wrong (don't know enough about encoding), but can't you take the straight UTF-8 and base64 it? Base64 is perfect for arbitrary binary data, which you could surely interpret UTF-8 as, right?
Alt-keypad: Whatever it is, I'm sure it's nasty. I don't really know what I'm doing in Linux as regards keyboards and charsets, so it's something I stay away from. And copy and paste isn't a real feasible option. Further exacerbated when not in a GUI...
Sure, you can base64 the UTF-8, but when filling in the form elements in the browser, you don't want UTF-8 data, you want a Javascript unicode string, where each character is represented as the Unicode code point. And as far as I know, there's no built-in function to parse UTF-8 to a Javascript string, so you'd have to do it yourself.
You're right though that it's difficult to say which one is more work.
Ahaha~
Bugger.
I'm staying away from it for now. I don't even like the sound of this javascript unicode string you speak of.
Trivia:
On 2ch, when you try to use the U+202D trick described in >>74-78
it results in ‏ in the name field (# of course triggering the tripcode #8207 here)
A humorous piece in a discussion thread on Burichan's off-topic & discussion board¹.
I am No.187, terra is Burichan's admin.
Sadly, the whole Burichan thing has led me to believe that providing porn for free on the internet draws near a HORDE of idiots, something I refused to believe when the argument about introducing NSFW boards was held on iichan².
This is unfortunate for me, as I like porn and am smug enough to think I am not one of the nobrainers I described in my little rant there and yet if I want the porn from here, I have to deal with these guys. Somehow.
Bill Cosby should have written a book on how to raise dumbfuck porn leeches to be upstanding and helpful netizens.
>> UNTITLE 05/08/15(Mon)02:54 No.187
The mods aren't exactly knowing what they are doing on here but they are GENIUSES compared to the average USER. Seriously, the people on here have to braindead, preteens or just fucking idiots. A bunch of ungrateful leechers who are unfamiliar with image board customs and functions, whose sole contributions to the boards consist in bumping threads with flames, repeated requests, starting threads without regard for any rules then complain when they get called out for it, who cannot quote, reply or otherwise use anything wisely that these boards provide... it's like a horde of monkeys on viagara let lose on the internet. Dumbest userbase on the net, seriously.
>> UNTITLE terra!hv8fIUoYQw 05/08/15(Mon)20:01 No.219
I like you. Will you be my friend?
¹http://burichan.pyoko.org/ot/res/28.html
²http://dis.iichan.net/idc//kareha.pl/1102109605/
http://dis.iichan.net/icv3dis/kareha.pl/1107572000
PS: Please disregard all of my spelling mistakes in the quoted post, I was angry, drunk and tired.
4chan has become as bad as 5chan - only without hentaikey but with more nigger jokes.
>>86
Only in /b/. I frequent other parts of 4chan, and those parts are almost friendly. And no nigger jokes.
I don't think >>86 was accusing them of being unfriendly.
Probably not, but it's not exactly what you'd call a functional community in there.
Hey, 4chan was a functional community once... around 2003. Remember the original "girl on the phone" caption contest? The rather nifty redrawing someone did of Osaka on the waterwheel?
Then there was /l/ when it was numbered less than a dozen regulars, trading pictures and having spirited discussions about Lolita... and I've been a pedo ever since
>>90
"My Brother!" </taishi>
wtfux dies (thinks about "merging with iichan", lol)
4chan dies soon (or not? mexico is mysterious)
what's going to happen
iichan to be merged with wtfux (imgboard portal for trolls), feel free to discuss this "permanent move" here:
http://dis.iichan.net/idc/kareha.pl/1127535454
or here:
http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1127534937
What the hell is wrong with 4chan lately?
Attention whores get promoted to moderator status & get extra birthday sticky threads..
What the fuck? What's the point of anonymous imageboards if everything is about achieving some kind of celebrity status on that site these days?
The whole Otakon thing was so fucking emberassing. "LOL this is saber he is admin of pedo site" "LOL this is moot he is not really mexican" "LOL I am Allyson, I just wanted to say that I made it to the panel!"
And then the whole thing about how you seemingly have to idle 24/7 on their IRC channel in order to get some actual info about the site or some influence...
Does anyone even know who the admin of Futaba Channel is? Or any of the moderators? Apart from the cosplayers, all the users on the photos from their cons (Nijiket & Futaba Only) get a nice Laughing Man on the face. So much for recognition...
4chan however could probably begin selling trading cards of all their tripcode celebrities by now. Ugh.
This whole attention whoring lately is a disgrace to the whole point behind anonymous imgboard software. Not to say that I hate all people who post with names & tripcodes, but it's done to death on 4chan now.
> And then the whole thing about how you seemingly have to idle 24/7 on their IRC channel in order to get some actual info about the site or some influence...
Well theoretically you could do it by posting in Suggestions, but you have to not be a moron to do that properly, and I don't think anyone's figured that out yet
The last thread I made in /sug/ (about introducing FORCED_ANON in /b/) was closed for no good reason. I made another one eventually but I can see why people would just not want to bother anymore.
Then in the thread in /sug/ about where the donation money went it took some serious trolling, flaming and taunting until one of the admins revealed infos. Of course, the thread was also closed...
I think it takes a bit more than just not being a moron on /sug/. Don't know what that is, though.
Futaba's cons are also solely about the users - doujinshi artists, cosplayers, and so on, not about the staff.
I've always liked the anonymous boards because they're centered on community and users. Everybody performs and everybody participates, and popularity is only dependent on how good you are at what you do.
Contrast that to things like blogs, which I am coming to really dislike because they are killing online discussion - you have one or a couple of people who are designated performers, and the rest of the people who'd post comments are only there to be the audience for those who perform.
And it saddens me to see 4chan moving away from the former and towards the latter.