This thread is for questions and discussion about Xee. Before posting, check that the question has not already been answered in this thread, or in the previous thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1122405906/

There is also a bug tracker for Xee here: http://code.google.com/p/xee/issues/list

If you have a bug to report, it is better to post it on the bug tracker if you can, so it will not be forgotten.

Can you make it so hitting the next key when you have an image open that doesn't fit the window first scrolls to the bottom, then if you're already on the bottom it skips to the next image? It'd be way convenient for comics. It's the default behavior of http://dancingtortoise.com/simplecomic/

>>454

I might add a separate key for that kind of thing. Currently, you can already do it with touch scrolling, but not from the keyboard.

File an issue on the bug tracker to make sure I don't forget it.

>>452
Damn, no dedicated GPU switch fix?

Hey there, my favorite app developer! Is there a hack to remove the noise/grain effect? Looks amazing. Love all the new icons and everything.

Just updated my OS so that I could try it out. I like everything, but is there a way to turn off the noise/grain effect? Even just a little hack would be nice.

status bar hiding option

As much as I'm absolutely elated that Xee is finally getting updated, I'm not a big fan of v3 and have gone back to v2 :(

• full screen sucks: can you please add "non-Lion+" style FS option? I hate having FS open in a new "desktop". since I use multiple monitors, that gets annoying fast.

• it doesn't preload next image: as I'm going through folder, why isn't Xee preloading next image as I'm pressing space to go to the next?

• that noise effect is annoying as hell: coupled with no preloading, I see that effect all the time and it's driving me nuts. please have an option to disable it :)

that said, Xee3 is amazingly fast and I've paid for it and I'm happy to support you for all the work. I'm sure v3 will eventually become superb!

thanks!

>>460
Mavericks will fix fullscreening.

I'm so happy to see this superb app is finally receiving updates! :) :) :)

In that vein, I hope you will soon implement options to disable the TV noise effect, which is very distracting to me, and to hide the status bar. Until then, I think I'll be sticking with good old v2.2 :)

Also, IMHO, the black style would work a lot better without the white horizontal line on the top bar.

Keep up the great work! :)

>>460

It is definitely preloading. I am not sure why it would not work for you?

On a Macbook Pro, there's no + key without using Shift, so Zoom In with the + key doesn’t work...it's always Fine Zoom. Why not Command + and Command - for zooming, as in most other Mac apps (including Xee 2)?

Great program! Would love this as a default image viewer but I have one issue - which maybe user related - please tell me if I've missed something in the settings ...

I would like to browse only selected images in a folder. If I double click on any image within a folder, all images in that folder are displayed. This is not good for just a quick look nor if you just want to show a few pics to someone (without having to creat a new folder to move those pics into).

Thank you answering and for this excellent app!

>>465

That is just how the program works. I find it quite useful for a quick look, exactly because you don't have to select which files to show, you can just flip through them.

Love Xee.

I've noticed three things that bug me (no pun intended).

1) Speed / noise effect. As others have said, Xee 2.2 is much faster at flipping through images on a remote share (or even on my computer) so the slowdown combined with the noise effect winds up getting me even more aggravated than either of those alone.

2) Retina support. Please please please give us an 1:1 pixel mapping option.

3) Toolbar. Did I miss something, or did the toolbar for manipulating images without dipping into menus disappear? (Super annoying if I want to rotate an image counterclockwise, since there's not even a keyboard shortcut for that).

Another vote to turn off the noise / snowflake / tv static effect, it's not adding to the experience for me and for images that don't require processing time, it's actually slowing things down from being rendered on screen.

> it's actually slowing things down from being rendered on screen.

It isn't, in general. It is only shown while the image is not yet loaded.

When an image is only 50kb and the snowflake is being brought up... then something is seriously wrong with Xee :|

>>470

Well, without a way to reproduce that I can't do anything about it.

If you can actually believe it, Xee is now live on the App Store. Just took a month and a half of multiple appeals and useless re-uploads before they realized they had already OK'd it a long time ago. Geeeeeez.

I haven't heard anything official about the "static noise" loading effect - even after many people complaining about it. Will this effect remain? Will it be configurable? My evaluation period is over and I'd just like to know what the official response to these complaints are before purchasing.

Hi, I have been using Xee for years and just LOVE it.

I am to buy Xee3 (currently using the demo) but may I ask you something : I would NEED an option to disable antialiasing as in Xee2.

It is one of the reason I use Xee as my default image viewer.

(Though I have discovered that depressing the arrow keys actually disable the antialiasing :-) but this will not work if the image is zoomed in or out, since the arrow keys scroll the image )

Thank you in advance !!

Best regards.

In addition : the arrow keys disable the antialiasing only when "scaling quality" is "low".

In addition : the arrow keys disable the antialiasing only when "scaling quality" is "low".

>>474

What exactly do you need this for?

Hi,

when I browse a pictures folder, this allows me to very quickly see the pictures that are not perfectly in focus, so that I can delete them, without having to look at them at 100%.

Also I must say that antialiased images always look blurred to me...
I don't like that, and most often watch my pictures without antialiasing (with Xee2, or ViewIt).

One more thing : it would be great to be able to choose the background color, as with Xee2.

I use a Macbook Pro with a black frame around the display.
When watching 3:2 ratio images, I have a grey strip on each side of the image, which is not nice.
With Xee2 I chose black for background color = no grey strips.

Other than that, Xee3 is great, thank you so much for creating it.
I love it.
And will help you by buying it.
Cheers.

Just go to any folder with around 50-100 files, all around 50kb. Go to Google Images, search for "basketball" and download all the thumbnails. Open the folder with Xee and scroll with a mouse. You will get the snowflake effect. These files are all less than 50kb.

I'm on a 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 with 32GB RAM and a 5770 GPU.

PS - I bought Xee 3 the day it was released. I may sound like I'm griping but I've been a long time user and am happy with your product. I'm sure you like the static/snowflake noise effect as may other users, but adding an option to turn it off doesn't seem to be a really tough deal.

>>479

That is probably just that OS X can not create that many loader processes that fast, and will lag a bit if you flip through very many images quickly. I wish there was a way to deal with that but I haven't found one. Turning off the loading animation is not going to change anything there.

Just a question, how are updates handled for the Paddle version?

>>481

Manually, for now.

How about the static effect. Will it be possible to disable it or not?

>>483

As I said, I'll be adding some options later.

In xee v2 i mapped my middle mouse button to the keystroke for "shrink to fit". I could toggle between shrink to fit and actual size by pressing the button. This behavior seems to be missing in v3. Both the "actual size" and "fit on screen" actions do not toggle. Is there a way to do this now in v3 or is the functionality missing?

>>486

Yeah, the shrink to fit flag works slightly differently now.

The Static screen is horribly distracting when browsing images. I think I'm going back to Xee2 until you add an option to remove it.

The Static screen is horribly distracting when browsing images. I think I'm going back to Xee2 until you add an option to remove it.

So, 3.1 has been released. The App Store version is not there yet but will follow shortly. Changes are:

• Options for different loading animations.
• Directional browsing keyboard shortcuts now also scroll the image.
• Better colour matching, with support for multiple monitors with different colour profiles.
• Added an option for whether Xee should use the discrete GPU on machines that have one.
• Added separate options for which file types to open from the Finder, and which to browse.
• Fixed crashing on 10.9 in the non-App Store version.
• Some tweaks for keyboard shortcuts, and better functionality on the dvorak-qwerty layout.
• Bug fixes for the infamous PSD loader.
• Add quantization table detection for many Olympus cameras.

Since we are no longer in AppStore, how about an option to disable lion fullscreen mode?

>>491

It would require a lot of work for very little benefit, so not likely to happen. Fullscreen will work better in 10.9 anyway.

3.1 should be live on the app store too now.

How hard would it be to implement a way to use a MAS bought copy to unlock the non-sandboxed version, like Coda? https://panic.com/coda/support.html

>>494

I've been thinking about it. I'd have to either interface with the paddle.com license system, though, or create a third version. Both are a bit of a pain so I haven't done it yet, but it's something I would ideally like to do.

When switching between images with multitouch swipe, the option to focus on the top right or left corner works, but when I switch with a keyboard shortcut it doesn't.

Also, when I open a file, it doesn't focus on the top, but that was already happening before the latest update.

>>496

File an issue on the bug tracker to remind me to look into it when I get around to the next round of updates.

Thanks for adding optional "loader" screens; now I felt comfortable paying up... :)
Please see the attached GIF (it causes a Xee crash).

>>499

Interesting, I'll have a look into what is going on with that one.

Thanks for the loading options, very much appreciated.

Hopefully Mavericks comes out soon, I have 5 monitors and whenever I go into full screen in Xee3 my other 4 monitors become totally useless.

I have been using Xee 2.2 for a while as an image viewer, since migrating to a Mac.
I wanted to rotate some images, and downloaded the Xee3 trial.
My first reaction was disappointment; the buttons to move images are gone and the cryptic symbols in the Browse menu don't correspond to anything I have seen before.
I gather swiping works, but I HATE swiping with a vengeance - it is so much easier to click (which works with a wireless mouse) or use keyboard.
In Preferences I did find Keyboard shortcuts, but there seems to be no Help or anything to explain what most of these actually do. (I know Apple Help is not easy to write, but it can be done).
I did manage to losslessly rotate, but this requires 2 operations ⌘R plus ⌘S, and then I discovered that this changes to file date - requiring yet another operation (using jhead) to restore the date. (There should be an option to retain dates.)
My own image program (on Windows) automatically losslessly rotates in a file, and retains date information, but I was trying to avoid the effort to write a Mac version.

PS Some of these comments may have already been addresses, but there seems to be no search facility on the support site.
PPS Open Recent does not seem to remember any of my previous files.

Hi,

images were much sharper in Xee2 than in Xee3.

Here is an example, in Xee3 scaling quality is set to "high", in Xee2 antialiasing quality is set to "sharp, high".

Xee3 on the left, Xee2 on the right.

http://hpics.li/a35b0a7

One of the first reasons I was using Xee is the ability to see sharp images.
It's no longer the case with Xee3, and it is very sad !!

Do you think you can fix that problem ?
If yes I will buy Xee3: I love it, but I need to see sharp images.

Thank you.

Hi,

images were much sharper in Xee2 than in Xee3.

Here is an example, in Xee3 scaling quality is set to "high", in Xee2 antialiasing quality is set to "sharp, high".

Xee3 on the left, Xee2 on the right.

http://hpics.li/a35b0a7

One of the first reasons I was using Xee is the ability to see sharp images.
It's no longer the case with Xee3, and it is very sad !!

Do you think you can fix that problem ?
If yes I will buy Xee3: I love it, but I need to see sharp images.

Thank you.

Hi. When I am browsing images in a folder, I rename ones as I go sometimes (like if I see a car photo, I renamed dscn1029.jpg to cars_dscn1029.jpg for example). Problem is, when I do that it usually changes where I am in the browsing order. In the example, it would move me to the beginning of the list again as "c" in cars comes before the "d" in the dscn filenames. I hate losing my place.

Is there any way to make it so I rename a file and it stays where I was in the list? Thanks!

>>506

Not currently. It's a tricky problem, because some people would be equally annoyed at the list not being properly sorted afterwards.

Will there be any future functionality to edit Exif data that is displayed?? Then I might buy the new version :)

>>507
Ken's sorting issue is what's bothered me with Xee for years. After renaming a file, I lose my position in the list and then you have to figure out another way to rename a large list of files. I use Finder for that simply because Xee drives me nuts. Why not just keep the current order static until you close the image?

Here's some more issues (this is all Xee3).

1. Preloading issue: After deleting a file, there is a delay before Xee shows the next image. It shows it immediately if I press space (or whatever you have for next).
2. Folder to save a file is random/last folder used? When saving/exporting a file, why not default to current image folder? Xee has been doing that for years and years.
3. How about a simple resize option? Input percentage or pixel size and export. It can't be that difficult :)

Thanks! I'm loving Xee3 but I feel that Xee2.1 is still somehow faster. It just seems faster on my computer (2010 MBP).

>>509

File issues about 1 and 2, they seems to be real bugs. (Otherwise I might forget about it.)

3 is planned, but it is more annoyingly hard to really do right than it seems. (It's easy to do badly!)

Also, there's at least one performance issue that I am working on fixing still, so it should get a bit faster at least.

>>510

Thanks!

BTW, for Issue 1, the preloading bug… preloaded image is also "lost" when you move a file (pressing Ctrl+1 etc). Next image is clearly loaded again even though it is shown immediately if you press space. So moving and deleting is somehow messing up preloading. I think this is one of the major sources of "slowness perception" of Xee3. Xee2.1 has none of these preloading issues and when I go through files to move/delete them, it is just a lot faster (I deal with large 5Mb+ files from a camera so that preloading issue is really perceptible).

>>511

Oh, and I just noticed 2 was already reported on the tracker so no need to file that one.

3.1.1 has been released. It contains nothing but a bugfix for the Paddle framework on Mavericks (it was crashing). The App Store version will not be updated, as this does not affect it.

Or maybe it does not actually work. Sigh.

Excellent update!

Wish list:

1.) Adjustable background color instead of gray.
2.) Reset zoom to default on selection of next picture.
3.) Some people may like the spinning "clock" when you select a new picture but I'd prefer to hold on the current picture until the new picture is loaded then switch.
4.) Maybe a quick blend to the next picture (quick 0.25 second)

Keep up the good work!

3.2 has been released. The changes this time are:

• Somewhat faster image loading for large images.
• Added option to hide status bar.
• Export panel now defaults to the same folder as the current image.
• Added reverse name order option for swipe browsing, and also the possibility to disable it.
• Fixed an issue where you might lose your position in the image list when quickly deleting images.
• Some graphical fixes.
• Small bug fixes for Mavericks.
• Other small bug fixes for rare issues.

Full screen in 3.2 Mavericks is making all the other monitors blank out grey, like it was before in ML

I LOVE XEE. Such a great app, such a great price. I bought it on a whim, and it's already an integral part of my workflow!

Thankyou, that's all. Keep up the awesome work. :)

Would it be possible add a feature to be able to make the whole window transparent. This way it, when used with "Float on Top", photos can be used as a tracing guide.

Thanks!

3.3 has been released! Changes are:

• Added Share menu option to share images through mail and social networks, and also to add them to iPhoto and Aperture. (Only available on OS X 10.8 and up.)
• Much improved loading speed for large images.
• Fixed crashes and graphical distortion on computers running OS X 10.7.
• Added Style tab in preferences, that allows changing the window and loading styles, as well as changing the background colours.

As usual, the App Store version will be updated when Apple feels like it.

The use GPU checkbox seems not to be working anymore.

>>522

Oh, probably because the loader process uses the GPU too now. File a bug on the bug tracker so I'll remember to fix it for the next release.

Great app. Is it possible to print multiple images on one page, say all the images in the current folder?

Great app. Is it possible to print multiple images on one page, say all the images in the current folder?

Minor keyboard problem:

I have browsing set to command+arrow and scrolling set to arrow keys - yet if I use command+arrow on images larger than the screen, it will scroll. It should not scroll when I'm holding the command key down.

>>527

The "Browse left" commands will scroll about one screen until they reach the edge, and then browse.

I see that I should set Browse Next and Browse Previous on the arrow keys instead of using Browse Left and Browse Right. (I just upgraded from Xee 2.2 to Xee 3.3 and the default behaviour has changed.)

Is there a setting to use the old method of resetting the zoom on each new image instead of keeping the current zoom on every image?

Yes, the above request is sorely needed >> "Is there a setting to use the old method of resetting the zoom on each new image instead of keeping the current zoom on every image?"

Great app! I'd like to filter the huge amount of EXIF data. Maybe "show highlighted (=color applied) only.

xee was one of my favorite tools from the beginning of my mac-life .. when I saw xee v3 now in the appstore I just bought it but now am sorry to say: it´s WAY TOO SLOW
compared to the older v2.x !!!! I won´t use it anymore and cannot recommend it anymore until the performance increases significantly. sorry! :(

I've got to agree - Xee 3 is incredibly slow. I've got a PCIe SSD that has over 700 MB/s read speed with a 4 core i7 and 2GB Nvidia graphics. I should not see 2 second delays when flipping through medium-sized images.

I really hope this can be fixed. I want to use Xee, but I may be forced to find an alternative.

The latest v3 update made it worse on my MacBook with Intel graphics and OSX 10.7.5; it's still very slow in loading images and now it doesn't load some images at all, instead it shows an all black image.

For now I'm still using good old v2 and I hope v3 will get better in time.

>>536

10.7 is not really recommended. The functionality Xee3 needs seems to not be quite well working on it. It might be at least a little bit better on later OS X versions.

I tried to use see to check a huge amount of pics on a external hard drive, and copy the good ones locally
if you use copy to function, nothing happens?? Bug#1
if you scroll now to the next picture, xee hangs up and restarts! Bug#2
There is no thumbnail possibility?

Hope to fix that, otherwise i will give my impressions to App Store and rate this

thx

>>538

Can you file bugs on the bug tracker about those, giving more information? Neither of those are normal behaviours, and I haven't seen them happen before, so I'll need more information.

Xee^3 gif loader crashes on this gif. Gif works fine in all browsers and QuickLook shows it playing fine as well.

Incidentally, Xee 2.1 also can't load this gif.

Add pixelmator document support please

Have been using Xee for years and as I was setting up a new computer I found Xee on the app store. Great!

Is there any way of turning off the sandbox mode? Either that or can I swap for the "regular" version?

How can I open two or more images with Xee in order to compare them side by side?

I have a bought version of Xee (not from the app store) and have a couple of requests.

1) I would love a way to jump straight to a specific photo by number. I have had situations where a Xee crashed, or I logged out, and I wanted to go to a specific photo by number (i.e. 1243 of 7000) in a folder but there seems no way.

2) A "check for updates" button would be great.

Cheers

Is there a way to browse between .zip files?

I read comics that are archived as .zip files and it'd be nice if I could just directly move to the next .zip file in the directory after I've gotten to the last image instead of having to open it separately.

It's awesome that Xee can show .mov files! It's perfect for showing a quick movie demo in line with jpegs!

Any plans to support mp4 and mov files?

Hi,

Bought xee3 on app store without thinking about sandbox restrictions. Is it possible to get license code out of app store version and use it in the non sandboxed version available on your site ?

Hi

I'm having an issue with running Kareha on Nginx. I've setup Nginx to run Perl scripts and the board seems to load up perfectly fine when I access the index. But when I try and access any thread I post, the thread page takes me to 404. Although, when I try and access that thread page via the /res/ directory, it works perfectly again.

Is there something I missed with the perl configuration that's not letting kareha.pl run properly or maybe a workaround to make the thread links use the /res/ directory rather than the kareha.pl script?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

>>550
I had trouble getting nginx and kareha to play together nicely in the past too, but I managed to "fix" it a while ago after modifying kareha to use PSGI instead of CGI (https://github.com/marlencrabapple/kareha-psgi). Not sure if that was the reason it suddenly started working, but it just happened to make a difference on my end.

Just in case that wasn't the reason why it started working, try using a location directive like location ~ (admin|kareha|captcha).pl { ... } when passing stuff to fcgiwrap.

>>551
Oh, and my setup involves serving the script with starman to localhost and using proxy_pass with the location directive in >>551 to pass the requests from nginx to the script.