This thread is for questions and discussion about Xee. Before posting, check that the question has not already been answered in this thread, or in the previous thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1122405906/

There is also a bug tracker for Xee here: http://code.google.com/p/xee/issues/list

If you have a bug to report, it is better to post it on the bug tracker if you can, so it will not be forgotten.

Might wanna change the "Discussion thread" link on Xee's page to this new thread.

http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/xee.html

Took me a while to see there was a "Xee, part 2" thread.
 
 

So what's planned for the next release of Xee? (I won't ask when, since I know, I know, "it'll be done when it's done." ;p )

Can't wait.

[insert here annoying repeated request for Xee to remember window size and position]

Keep up the great work!

>>2

Stuff that's already implemented in the development version is more formats, JPEG forensics, and loading bitmaps out of swf and pdf files.

Is the dev. version available for download as an executable?

Also, you said, "If you have a bug to report, it is better to post it on the bug tracker if you can, so it will not be forgotten."

So I assume this includes bugs that were reported in the first support thread, even those that you've responded to and acknowledged? (I indeed reported a few there.)

Hi,

Excellent prgram! Preview is very annoying...

Just one request - is there any way of being able to right click on the picture itself so that you can set it as desktop background, move to trash etc? At the moment, I can't see a way of having anything but that little gloved hand icon moving over the picture....

Apart from that, it's really all you need for a picture viewing program - I especially love the way you can easily scroll through pictures using the mouse wheel!

S

>>4

No. You might be able to download the source from SVN and build it, but then again you might not, it's a bit temperamental. Also, yes, it does help to file bugs even if they were mentioned here. I do try to check the thread for things to fix when I work on it but it's very easy to miss things here.

>>5

There's no way to set things as background, but there are options for moving and deleting in the File menu.

Please change the ugly icon. Sorry dude but they suck! You can get better looking ones at http://www.artofadambetts.com/weblog/?p=119

Can u add a feature like thumbnail-viewing (similat to that one to ViewIt)?

Otherwise it's a really cool app.:)
Could be faster IMHO especially while browsing through hundreds of images. On my PB G4 it runs a little bit slow - ViewIt seems to be a lot faster. But your app is free so why am I complaining?;)

I forgot to mention one thing: Could u add a feature in order to browse a folder with images via keyboard (i.e. up/down or left/right for browsing the image-folder)?
TIA!:) Keep up the great work!

I can't get it to remember my settings. I have to resize the window each time, and then constantly tell it to show the image at ctual size. It keeps making the first one I see 68% for some reason. And I have the Preferences set for display in name order, but it constantly wants to show them by date. Am I doing something wrong?

Could you add support for WBMP (wireless bitmap) files?

Nightly builds?

Is there a way to download a copy of the latest SVN of Xee?

Snow Leopard support? News on next version approx release date?

>>11

Download the source from SVN and build it if you want that.

>>12
It works fine on Snow Leopard.

"It works fine on Snow Leopard." No it doens't. Drag and Drop from Safari to Xee does not work.

"Drag and Drop from Safari to Xee does not work"
Hum... on snow leopard, it seems that Drag and Drop from Safari to ANY APP does not work ;-)

>>8

Xee has always supported this (AFAIK); use the period and comma keys to page backward and forward, respectively, through your pr0n collection. You can also use the spacebar to go forward, or shift-spacebar to go backward. Or you can use Command-Left arrow and Command-Right arrow, though it's harder to hit those with one hand.

Anyway, glad to see my image viewer of choice is still under active development. Thanks for the hard work, WAHa.

"um... on snow leopard, it seems that Drag and Drop from Safari to ANY APP does not work ;-)"

Nope, drag and drop to preview DOES work. But I admit that it could be Apple's problem, not Xee's.

As your archiver app is simply the best one on Mac, Xee could be easily the best image viewing application. Just needs a bit improvements and some missing features.

I appreciate your effort!

Is there any possibility that color problem will be fixed soon? This application is really great, but without "right" colors it is mostly useless...

>>19

> LTwHjGOD

Kamisama!

Good App, certainly better than Preview in Mac - one small issue noted is the Browsing Sort Order is set on "By Filename" every time we open the app, i tried use the Preference to set it on "By Date" without success. Thanks for great app again, looking forward to future updates (perhaps automatic updater?)

Very nice app but with a big problem which makes it unusable for me: upscaled images quality is horrible.

Many other image viewers do a much better job with upscaling, this viewer is very good but not on par with them with this particular task. There is a technical reason for this? Will this be improved in the future?

I found other old complains about upscaling in the other thread with a reply of around 1 year ago but I'd like to know the current status of this issue.

Thanks for your work!

is posible to add expose and coverflow for browsing images? plz!!

Would be handy if Xee could allow forward →and back ← keys on one's keyboard to be used for going forward and backward.

Well, after a whole lot of time, 2.1 is finally out.

http://xee.googlecode.com/files/Xee2.1.zip

• Support for viewing the unix PNM, XBM, and XPM formats, and also Dreamcast PVR.
• Support for reading bitmap images from inside SWF and PDF files. These can also be saved as normal image files. (Note that this does not mean you can view normal PDF files! Only bitmap images will be shown.)
• Support for more metadata formats: Photoshop, XMP and IPTC. Also support for simple image forensics: Xee can analyze the quantization tables in a JPEG image and look up what programs or cameras might have created it from a database.
• Translations into Czech by Czech X Team and Simplified Chinese by Tianhao He.
• Uncompression engine from The Unarchiver included in the app, so The Unarchiver no longer needs to be installed to read files from archives.
• Support for reading files from archive and PDFs that require passwords.
• Better support for Photoshop files.
• Many interface bugfixes and tweaks. The image list should now also update properly when reading files on network shares and FAT drives.
• Some crashes related to broken EXIF data fixed.
• Faster directory scanning.

awesome!
I really got an massive performance improvement on folders with many files.
Thank you for Xee.

>>28
here

so while xee opens the first picture fast it is quite sluggish for some seconds - still faster than preview.
This isn't so bad but this lagginess also comes everytime i use the random picture shortcut. (maybe its rescanning the whole directory every time?)

What is interesting is that ive found an older svn build of xee (svn28, http://www.2alien.info/2009/01/xee_mod_with_remote_controller.html) that opens as fast if not faster than the final 2.1 but doesn't have this bug (if it is a bug)

I only notice this on folders with many pics (1600+) especially when i skim/browse from the start picture back to the last one with the "loop images while browsing" option. Macbook pro with intel 2.33GHz, 3GB RAM, Ati x1600 if you need this info.

>>25
this works just fine - you have to set it in the preferences

>>29

That's probably just because the image you're browsing to isn't preloaded.

Oh come on man, why is there no subdirectory scanning? Do you still believe there are people stupid enought to drag hard drive icon to Xee?

Sigh…

Hi!

I'm trying to run a simple little script from the command line which basically does a slideshow. It goes like

$ for file in *; do open -a Xee $file; sleep 3; done

it works quite well, but I want Xee to always open full screen. There is such an option in Xee, but checking it and running the command above results in every other image is displayed fullscreen. That is I get alternate fullscreen and non-fullscreen images.

Is there a way to work around this? Do you suggest any other way of scripting Xee? Maybe using that applescript nonsense? thanks! by the way great tool!

By the way, the slideshow function is almost what I'm looking for but I need to define a series of delays, not a constant delay. Like 60 images for 10 seconds, 30 for 20 seconds, 10 for 60, and so on. Well maybe I'll hack the code, can't be too hard... or can it :-)

Hello!

I've used Xee since 2006 and it's one of my favorite softwares by far.

There still seems to be a bug with "Default sort order". The option "Same As In The Finder" doesn't work: it still arranges files by filename. I was thrilled when I noticed the 2.1 patch but it didn't fix the problem.

This is actually the only flaw for me in Xee.

I'm using Snow Leopard 10.6.2.

Perhaps the .DS_Store format changed in Snow Leopard. I will have to look into it.

>>36

That should be fixed in the development version already, I think.

This is a great app, but if you add the ability to zoom in and out using the scroll wheel, I will donate 10 euros. Thank you.

I don't find how to switch to russian locale. Perhaps it's not possible unless MacOS X itself is all in russian first, but it would be better if it could be chosen in Preferences. Would be great if I could also resize the images without switching to another application - I know Xee it a viewer but resizing is all I need, it would be so handful!

>>39

Mac OS X itself handles localizations, the app never gets to choose.

Hi,

Congratulations for this excellent and convenient piece of software !

I have found a bug that apparently has not been described yet, but may be linked to message number 32 in this thread : when the "Always Open in Full Screen" option is selected, Xee alternates full screen mode and window mode (instead of using full screen mode only) each time a picture is opened from the Finder or any other external browser.

Here is a step-by-step description :

1. In the menu "View", select the "Always Open in Full Screen" option.
2. Open a picture from the Finder or any other browser. Xee displays it in full screen mode.
3. Put the Xee screen to the background, for instance by pressing Alt+Tab or by using the "Reveal in Finder" command.
4. Open a picture again. Now instead of displaying it in full screen mode, Xee displays it in a window : this is the bug.
5. If you repeat steps 3 and 4, Xee displays the picture in full screen mode again. And if you repeat them again, Xee displays the picture in a window again, and so on.

I am using the latest 2.1 version, on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11.

Thank you for any answer and good luck !

Sorry : in step 3 of my post above I said "Alt+Tab" instead of "Command+Tab". I was a Windows+ACDSee user too...

still wrong colors :( :( :(
is there any effort in fixing this?!
great app anyway! :D

hey waha, howzit going?
if you remember from the unarchiver discussions, i'm an amiga lover and i recently was able to connect it to my mac and transfer all my old stuff, iffs and mods.

just a wish: support iff-ilbm .anim files.
there's a java app with included source code which reads both iff and anim but xee is already a favorite of course so it would be great if it would support amiga animations.

http://www.randelshofer.ch/multishow/

There is actually an issue filed for it already:

http://code.google.com/p/xee/issues/detail?id=188

The main problem is that the format - or rather, formats, there are several of them - end up being a bit complicated, so it would be a lot of work to do. In an ideal world I'd have the time to do it, though.

ok, maybe for the future.
old people have plenty of free time.
thanks, man.

Well, I decided it was time to make a quick bugfix release.

http://xee.googlecode.com/files/Xee2.1.1.zip

• Added a Spanish localization by miliuconet.
• Fixed another slowdown in the directory scanning code. Should be even faster now.
• Fixed some bugs that caused crashes when reading JPEG metadata.
• Some other minor bugfixes.

Just found this project; Interesting it uses libxad - what next, Amiga Datatypes? :)

Tried to download Xee: "The requested URL /files/Xee2.1.1.zip was not found on this server."

>>50

Works fine here. Temporary glitch at Google?

The "open in a single window" no longer works for me in 2.1.1

I know its probably still out of scope, but printing is the only reason Xee is not my default image viewer...

printing please!

Could you please add an option to auto-close Xee as soon as its last window is closed?

>>23

The full-screen upscaling is especially frustrating when you can get a far better result by displaying the image at normal size and then ctrl-mousewheel zooming in on it.

>>55

Did you try the option for smoothing in 2.1?

>>57

The filetype ownerships are entirely up to OS X, and it seems to get it wrong a lot. It's hard to see how to fix this.

Anyway, the bit about PICT and PNG files is definitely a regression that should be fixed. I'll have to look at it when I get back to working on Xee. If you want to avoid me forgetting about it, post an issue on the bug tracker.

Hi,

thanks for outstanding soft! The only thing (and I might be not the only one) that keeps me on ver. 1 is automatic saving after rotating a picture... Can you possibly make "Auto save after rotating" checking box in preferences? Then Xee would be perfect!

Stan

>>59

I've been meaning to, but for some reason I haven't gotten around to it.

how do i stop xee from attempting to display the ._XXX files that osx creates? since they still have a valid extension (.jpg in this case) xee attempts to show them

>>61

Where are you encountering them?

Also, I suggest filing a bug on the bug tracker about that, because it should definitely be fixed and there's less chance that I forget about it if there's bug filed.

>>61
I encountered this issue when viewing pictures on a network volume with NFS. Not with Samba/AFP tho...

>>61

I submitted a bug report (issue 217)

info
(client) Xee 2.1.1; OS X 10.6.2
(share) Ubuntu Server 8.10, Kernel 2.6.27-7-server; Samba 3.2.3

Xee is the perfect program for just viewing images. But doesn't work when i drag a folder with many folders inside. Could you correct this ?

great app. but does not recognize images in a folder containing many other folders with images. can you correct this ?

Just installed this app, it sure looks great.
One thing that I find is missing : the possibility to create a marquee which would automatically zoom in the picture (very much like the image preview in acdsee on win environments).

Cheers, very good app !

Please add the ability to read embedded colour profiles!!!

this program is great, it just saved me so much time searching for a proper .iff converter. I just rendered a huge image in Maya and saved to .iff, i wanted a .tiff of it, but the stupid fcheck program autodesk provides for .iff viewing can't re-save the image at full resolution unless you view the image at actual size, which the mac version of fcheck seems to have no option for.

anyway...just showing some love, thanks!

I want to use Xee for sorting images into several folders. How do I set up the destinations for the Copy and Move File commands?

>>74

Folders will be automatically added when you select them. You can also drag them there.

I'ld like to be able to browse inside of .sitx archives. Any possibility of this happening?

>>76

Is that not working with the newest version?

Xee's been an AMAZING program, but I've been having a lot of trouble lately. I installed a program that would let me open up Zip and RAR files, but after I did that, even though I told it not to be the default program for .cbr and .cbz files, it looks like the two programs started to clash, and now I have to approve every .cbz or .cbr file I try to open. I removed Zipeg and removed and reinstalled Xee, but it still won't work. Instead of the familiar orange icon for these files, I'm greeted with a blank sheet of paper icon. I don't know what to do. Help?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PKK3HS64

Xee's been an AMAZING program, but I've been having a lot of trouble lately. I installed a program that would let me open up Zip and RAR files, but after I did that, even though I told it not to be the default program for .cbr and .cbz files, it looks like the two programs started to clash, and now I have to approve every .cbz or .cbr file I try to open. I removed Zipeg and removed and reinstalled Xee, but it still won't work. Instead of the familiar orange icon for these files, I'm greeted with a blank sheet of paper icon. I don't know what to do. Help?

Feature request: click/double click for next pic, when browsing a zip/rar full of pictures.

The ONLY feature I miss in this amazing application, is some kind of "Fit to width", that would zoom the display in order to match image width with window width.
Thanks in advance in considering this, hopefully, very small modification in your code.

This program keeps making itself the default for opening rar and zip files and I don't want it too as it can't unpack them - is driving me a bit nuts. Please help,
Cheers

Go into the preferences, click the Formats tab, and uncheck the formats you don't want to use Xee for.

When i open Xee i want to set my editor as photoshop elements 8 but when i go to do that nothing comes up under file/Open in Editor/set default editior?
Please help

I would like to have Xee open cbr files, but have The Unarchiver (or Stuffit) open rar files. On my previous computer I was able to do this, but now (with (or because of) Snow Leopard?) I can't change one without the other. Can anyone help me? These programs are wonderful, but this is becoming a big problem for me. Thanks for any help or ideas!

>>88

Try using the Finder's Get Info... to change which programs to use for which formats.

Thank you, but I've tried that again and again with each possibility I can think of. I can't seem to change RAR separately from CBR. If I change one, the other changes too.

Has anyone else had this problem or found a solution?

>>90

Perhaps you have some other program installed that defined the same UTI for them both, confusing Launch Services?

i'm not sure this is something you would want in xee but since there is already simple rename perhaps you could implement multi file (batch) rename that could use exif information so that i could rename my pics to e.g. 2010-08-09_22-30-40.jpg

anyway, thank you very much for this great app!

one more thing:
xee closes window if i hit escape key. it would be great if it closed itself if there is no more open window. perhaps a preference? thus i could more easily use it to preview images from other apps. (return / double-click to open and see an image, escape to close it and return back to app)
cheers.

>>91
I've heard of stuffit causing >90's issue. Perhaps he can check and see if he's got that in his Applications folder.

Is there a manual or online instructions for using Xee? I didn't see either at the main site: http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/xee and after searching this support page...I assume I'm being stupid but would appreciate help on using this viewer. Thanks.

It would be great if Xee kept file time attributes unchanged when saving losslessly.
Use case: I always go through my photos and rotate some of them but then those have different file date than others. E.g. XnView keeps original file times.
Thanks!

Thanks for a decent program. I am a recent Mac convert. Irfanview is the Windows standard for this type of program. Feature request: a simple x/y window showing the current picture number out of the number of pictures in the folder ie. 18/527. An option in preferences to turn off the delete verification message. Ability to use arrows to move pictures forward and back through list.

Xee already shows you which picture and the total number in the folder. Look in the status bar, bottom left, it is the number next to the folder icon.

Thanks Ben!

I agree with mato : 2010-08-17 23:29. It'd be great if the lossless save would preserve the original file mod date. I believe Xee 1.21 di preserve that, but it seems to have changed. Excellent program - thanks a lot!

Xee is great! I switched to it from JustLooking today. But I haven't found Russian localization in the last (2.1.1) version of Xee. Is this a feature or you've just forgotten to put ru.lproj into resources? Anyway, I took this folder from Version 2.0 resources and Xee began to speak russian. Is there any differences in menu or other translated strings between 2.0 and 2.1.1 versions?

>>101

I think my Russian translator disappeared. Somebody else submitted another translation but I haven't had time to look at that yet.

Also, if you use the 2.0 resources, there are some things that will break, so I can't recommend that.

Does my request (#83 above) has a chance to be considered ?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Xee has been my favourite image viewer for a very long time now and though I do check the competition once in a while there is no other to match it with regard to my specific workflow.

I am a photographer and use Xee mainly for sorting quickly through my first import batch. The main task is viewing the RAW files fullscreen and instantly deleting the no-gos.

My sesssion are 400-600 images each, so sorting speed is the most important factor. Unfortunately, Xee only preloads one image at a time, and each load takes 3-4 seconds for my 20+ MB RAW images. That is half an hour or more of unproductive waiting time.

This is why I'd like to ask whether it is possible to preload more than one image at a time (or preload continously in the background). For me it would be sufficient if be able to have 3 images preloaded and the past three images in memory to cut this down to almost zero waiting time.

Any chance for this to become a feature/preference setting of Xee?

Thanks,
Kurausu

Thanks for this terrific app!
the price of success is that there is quite a few bugs to correct now...
is there an estimated date for the next release?

I download XEE und now I see only japanese oder chinese letters?!

How I can change it into Englisch oder German?

I wish theres option to let Xee automatic quit when las image are closed

Thanks for this terrific app!
So powerful while keeping it so simple and immediate to use. Great work. Xee is definitely my preferred image viewer.
Let me know if you'd like me to translate it to Italian!

I don't know if this is possible, but I'd like to be able to undo Move File.

I use Xee a lot for organizing images and sometimes due to my own fault, I'll move an image to a wrong directory. And it'd save time if I could just cmd+z to undo that move.

>>115

That sounds like a pretty useful feature. Not sure how much of a pain it would be to implement, but please file a bug for it on the bugtracker, or else I'll probably forget about it.

This is a fantastic program, and thanks for your effort bringing it to us. I have been looking for a fast and light image viewer for the Mac, and so far this is the best.

I guess you get a lot of suggestions for additional features, so I hope I am not offending you for some myself.

I love the keyboard shortcuts in full screen viewing mode, and was wondering if you could add another couple:

• A key for fill screen to Horizontal borders: (Horizontal max) i.e. the current enlarge/shrink is excellent, but mnany photos on the wide screen Mac displays have two black borders on each side. This is great to see everything in the photo. But sometimes I would like to use the whole screen. This would cut of course a bit from the top/bottom, but in some instances this would be fine.
• Likewise, a key for fill screen to vertical max.

An alternative option would be in preferences to be able to adjust the zoom steps. They are quite large now, but it would be nice to also have smaller steps for each + or - key.

Once again, brilliant work!

I guess I may have been asking too much for a new user ;O) But are there already any hidden settings that may offer the features suggested above? Post 117: ID:klJvg7j4

It is such a great app for viewing, but these features would make it perfect. :O)

I've been using Xee now for a while... one thing I notice is a constant crash on one out of about ever 200 images I open. This doesn't happen with preview or other graphics programs - just xee. I actually get an extensive error report starting with the following:

Process: Xee [1018]
Path: /Applications/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee
Identifier: cx.c3.xee
Version: ??? (2.1.1)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [197]

Date/Time: 2010-11-15 19:47:48.984 -0600
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.5 (10H574)
Report Version: 6

Interval Since Last Report: 441278 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 35
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 120916 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 22
Anonymous UUID: 6FF7E964-A2D6-4B18-BCA4-199D12AA96C1

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 3

Thread 0: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f850fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f85867 mach_msg + 68
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c1a37f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c19464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c19291 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 97
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90096f9c RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 392
6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90096d51 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 354
7 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90096bd6 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 81
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x9275878d _DPSNextEvent + 847
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x92757fce -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 156
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x9271a247 -[NSApplication run] + 821
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x927122d9 NSApplicationMain + 574
12 cx.c3.xee 0x00002972 _start + 216
13 cx.c3.xee 0x00002899 start + 41

Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fab982 kevent + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fac09c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fab559 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fab2fe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96faad81 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96faabc6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fab982 kevent + 10
1 cx.c3.xee 0x0006b4f0 -[XeeKQueue eventLoop] + 149
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x959e5bf0 -[NSThread main] + 45
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x959e5ba0 NSThread__main + 1499
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fb285d _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fb26e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 3 Crashed:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0xffff07d7 __memcpy + 55
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f96c20 __sfvwrite + 359
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f9673e __vfprintf + 21700
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f9a1c5 snprintf + 377
4 cx.c3.xee 0x0005aff9 nikon_prop + 415
5 cx.c3.xee 0x0005905e exifparse + 150
6 cx.c3.xee 0x0005cf2f -[XeeEXIFParser initWithBuffer:length:mutable:] + 98
7 cx.c3.xee 0x0005cecb -[XeeEXIFParser initWithBuffer:length:] + 48
8 cx.c3.xee 0x0004c0ee -[XeeJPEGImage load] + 3631
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c56edd __invoking___ + 29
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c56e48 -[NSInvocation invoke] + 136
11 cx.c3.xee 0x0007969e CSLeopardCoroutineStart + 34
12 ??? 0000000000 0 + 0
13 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c57cd4 ___forwarding___ + 1108
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x98c57802 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 50
15 cx.c3.xee 0x0000fb77 -[XeeImage initWithHandle:ref:attributes:] + 558
16 cx.c3.xee 0x0001172a +[XeeImage imageForHandle:ref:attributes:] + 251
17 cx.c3.xee 0x000115ed +[XeeImage imageForRef:] + 157
18 cx.c3.xee 0x00063ffc -[XeeFileEntry produceImage] + 54
19 cx.c3.xee 0x00081b65 -[XeeListEntry image] + 83
20 cx.c3.xee 0x0008190f -[XeeListSource loader] + 232
21 com.apple.Foundation 0x959e5bf0 -[NSThread main] + 45
22 com.apple.Foundation 0x959e5ba0 NSThread__main + 1499
23 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fb285d _pthread_start + 345
24 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96fb26e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 3 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0xffff0730 ebx: 0x00000001 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000001
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0xa095e461 ebp: 0x18eff278 esp: 0x18eff270
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0xffff07d7 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000023 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x00000000

...... it goes on from here....

>>121

Looks like another exiftags crash. Please try to figure out which exact image causes it, and post it on the bug tracker.

>>82>>83

I'm in the same boat as these two, they would be greatly appreciated by a .cbr .cbz viewer. I had trouble finding the zoom memory and scroll position memory options (maybe that's just me) - could I humbly suggest a "comic book mode?"

I heart you for Xee anyhow, everything else sucks :)

>>123

Just a couple clarifications on 82 and 83: auto fit to width or height (whichever is smaller - ie width for a single page, height for two-page spreads). Left click for next image and right click for previous just makes sense to me but I can't say how you'd keep the default click behaviour

^^^Year, autofit was also something I would love to see. The autofit width option is especially something cool. The should be a setting though to stop smaller images from expanding to fit, only larger images shrinking for image quality.

Well, to put into practice my suggestion, I downloaded Xee source code and tried to apply a very small modification.
As a first test, in XeeControlerImageActions.m, I replaced this line :

[self setZoom:horiz_zoom<vert_zoom?horiz_zoom:vert_zoom];

by this one :

[self setZoom:horiz_zoom];

Now, I cannot manage to compile the project (never used Xcode before).
The compiler seems not to be able to find basic include files (stdarg.h, float.h...).

Any help in recompiling Xee would be gratly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

I should perhaps give some details about my configuration if I want to receive any help with the build process.

OSX 10.6.5
Xcode 3.2.4

I've just extracted the source tarball somewhere and double-clicked Xee.xcodeproj.

I "suppose" xcode is initially well configured to find include files, but it's just a guess.

Would really love to be able to undo file deletion

>>128

You probably don't have the right SDK installed. They're an optional install in the Xcode package. I don't remember what the right one is.

>>130
Thanks for the help, but I had already every SDK (10.4, 10.5 and 10.6) installed.
I read in stack overflow and iPhone Dev SDK forums that changing the default SDK from 10.4 to 10.6 fixed the problem.
Well, it didn't because xcode insisted in using 10.4.
I just added a user-defined directory seach for include files (/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.0.1/include/, for the curious) and it worked.
I still don't understand why xcode isn't able to tell the compiler where all the include files lie.
Anyway, I was able to recompile the application.
Considering >>124, above, I replaced the '<' by a '>' in the original zoom factor calculation and it works perfectly.
I'm happy for now.
Perhaps I will try later to have both behavior co-existing (with an option-click, for example), but the best would be to have it builtin in Xee itself.

I love Xee! It's excatly what I was looking for! It's the best image viewer application!!!

There is just one important option missing: "Set image as desktop wallpaper." If i'm browsing throw the images i would really love to quickly set a picture as a desktop wallpaper.
(May be with a key combination or with the right mouse click.)

I have a second question: Are you planing to add a right mouse click option like in JustLooking? This would make the application even more perfect.

greetings,
Max

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest replacing libjpeg with libjpeg-turbo since it is likely to provide a noticable speed boost for (probably) a majority of the user base.

>>137

I was looking at that at some point, but does it build and run right on PPC?

From what I've read it should build and run on PPC as well. Minor #ifdef modifications are probably needed. I haven't dug too deeply, but that's what I've come up with. People have even stated it's more portable than the reference IJG code, but I take that with a grain of salt... :)

احمد ابو بكر تلبانة وبس احمد زغلول

>>138

PPC has been dead for over 5 years. Seriously, why worry about PPC when it's dead and 99% of Mac users don't care? Tell people to use old version if they still use old OS.

:)

>>141

Because I still run a PPC machine!

68k was here, PPC is a loser.

I, like many others, would like to see thumbnail browsing. Before Mr. !WAHa says it again ("why? the OS already does that"), I will point out that there are image viewers (in the PC world for example such as ACDSee) that DO have this and it IS useful. It is PAINFUL to go through the finder that way. We could say "the OS already has a viewer, so what is the point of this Xee thing?" The thing is, if I open a directory with over 100 images in it, it is really hard to find the few out of the set that are most interesting, and you can compare them easier when they are all visible at once.

By the way, 99% of Mac users don't care about anonymous posters claiming to know what 99% of Mac users think!

Might be a stupid question but if XEE was on a thumb drive with the images (to be displayed) but not installed on the HOST machine would it launch & run on doubleclick?
I'm thinking portable slideshow to pass around at a party or starbux...

>>145
I imagine it would work fine, as most OS X apps are fairly self-contained. Try it?

Xee is one of the fastest image viewers there is for Mac.
I do for work, looking at thousands of images every day, and have to do it fast. It seems Xee stumbles with larger files (not so much so with bigger filesize but with bigger dimensions). Anything above 15MP will take progressively several times more time to display than smaller images. Around 10MP it is lightning fast. Oh, and I have a fast computer + 6GB of ram, so it must be somewhere else... Thank you though, for the work you have already done, it is a lifesaver.

Love Xee... much better than Preview! Only problem is that every single time you open an image (via double-click in Finder), Xee seems to want to update its own copy of the file structure of the folder that the file was in. This is problematic in that if there are several thousand images in the Finder window, and you open one of them up in Xee, it takes a LOT longer to display than if that image was in a folder with only a few files.

File viewing is basically instantaneous if you use Xee's own navigation once you're looking at an image. So rendering the image isn't the delay at all. The entire delay seems to be Xee trying to synchronize its own copy of what's in that folder, and it does that before letting you see the image.

I just wish it could display the image first, THEN do whatever background activity it has to do.

Xee.app successfully opens .PNM (portable anymap format / Netpbm format) files! Great!

Could you please add .PNM to the list of accepted filetypes, so that the Finder automatically offers to open .PNM files with Xee.app? Thanks!

/Applications/Xee.app/Contents/Info.plist" -> CFBundleTypeExtensions

>>149

The usual extensions are .ppm, .pgm and .pbm, those should be there already. I guess I could add .pnm too if anyone is using that. File an issue on the bug tracker so I don't forget about it.

Just downloaded trial version of ACDSee for Mac and it smokes Xee. :(

http://store.acdsee.com/store/acd/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.223588500?resid=TWVkYQoHAtUAAEqYRW8AAAAL&rests=1298853615375

Xee is so damn slow when opening larger JPG and other types of images. Why is that and what can we do to improve it?

It's not even funny how slow Xee is when you compare it to other software... even the first attempt at a port of a Windows app.

Finally, a replacement for Irfanview on the PC. I can double click on a picture, and loop through a folder with either the keyboard or mouse. It does this in full screen mode upscaling and downscaling. No idiotic thumbnailers or adding directories before viewing. This is how an image viewer should work. It's also fast. Great job!

Apple should buy the rights to this and make it a standard feature, instead of the useless preview program they include.

hi there!

another satisfied user here. I have just one request. please consider adding "Perspective cropping" feature to the Crop tool. it is very useful when one needs to crop photos from conference slides, photographed documents, etc.

examples of the use can be found at:

http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/10.0/help.html?content=WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-7630.html

or

http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=416#p6017

thanks and best regards from Bratislava, Slovakia!

>>153
I might be wrong, but that seems to me a highly complex feature best left to a professional image editor. Even Gimp doesn't have that.

Quick resize of images is lacking in OSX, windows has had this functionality since XP trough powertoys extensions. Simple right click on a file or group of files and you could resize them quickly using several presets. I realize Xee is not an editor, but a simple addition of ability to resize one or multiple images quickly would be very very valuable. Thank you for an awesome viewer and disregard this suggestion if it's beyond the scope of this project.

hi, it would be great if the info panel (cmd+i) could distinguish between the gif format GIF87a and GIF89a. At the moment I have to open the files in a hex editor to find this info (it's in the first six bytes of the file)

>>156

That should be easy to add, post an issue on the bug tracker so I'll remember it.

Is Xee dead? No Code changes since over a year now. :(

>>158

Mostly it is on hiatus. Most of my maintenance time has gone into The Unarchiver. I'm planning to get back to it, but it'll need a bit of an overhaul to catch up with changes in OS X since the project started.

Next version is probably going to have to be a 3.0 that breaks compatibility with older OS and hardware versions.

>>159
I really look forward to the next Xee version

Please change the icon in the next version!
It's scary.

Well, I kind of lied. There will be one more release of Xee from this codebase:

http://xee.googlecode.com/files/Xee2.2.zip

It's mostly bugfixes and tweaks, and one real new feature:

• Multitouch support, finally! Thanks to generous donations of both hardware and source code, multitouch gestures for browsing, zooming and rotating are now available. Scrolling is also smoother on trackpads and other smooth scroll devices. * Using scrolling to browse should also work better.
• Uses a newer version of the archive reading code from The Unarchiver. Can now open more archive formats, including even ISO images.
• Better compatibility with Snow Leopard. (Finding the sort order from the Finder works again, as does JPEG thumbnailing.)
• Better support for PNM files.
• More informative window titles when browsing archives.
• Many other bugfixes: Viewing the clipboard works again, cropping does not crash, keyboard shortcuts work better, and more.

This is most likely the last release using this codebase, and also the last release that will run on PPC (unless there are some urgent bug fixes). When I started writing Xee, Apple's image handing code was kind of a joke and horribly slow, but it's been a long time now, and it's now quite fast. It's time for a total overhaul of Xee to use more of OS X's image handling code instead. We'll see how that works out.

Hi !WAHa.06x36!

Can you plase add a button to the toolbar, where one can set the current picture as wallpaper, this would be really, really nice!!!! (Set as Wallpaper)

cheers,
Anna

Hi;

Just wanted to say Hi and thanks for a great app. I've only installed two versions as I came to Xee late. I do find it very handy and the latest version, 2.2 really handles multitouch well.

That said I do have suggestions.
1.
It would be nice if Xee was available on app store. This does a couple of things for us. One; it makes it easier for users to donate to the cause, especially if the charge is right. Two; and possibly most importantly it makes it very easy to keep up to date (a great feature of app store).

2.
Support of more file standards is always helpful. One I have my mind on is FITS, http://www.cv.nrao.edu/fits/ for astronomy. Oh while you are at it add a dialog that lists exactly what formats the current version supports. I went to the web page to look for an easy answer and got gibberish about Xee supporting what Preview and Quicktime does, plus a few others (paraphrased). For one thing I shouldn't have to go to the web for this info in the first place. Second I think Xee could use a little more documentation from within the the program itself.

There are of course other file formats out there that would be of interest to others, I just have a personal interest in astronomy.

3.
For version 3. I'd aggressively move forward to support the modern features of OS/X. Sometimes you have to make a break from the past and now is a good time as many of the advanced capabilities of Snow Leopard have stabilized. The use of GCD and OpenCL (where it makes sense) should have a major impact on Xee's snappiness.

4.
If you look out past Snow Leopard, you should consider full screen mode and floating tool palettes like are seen in Quicktime's movie viewer.

In any event don't think i'm being critical here. I really like Xee, you have a very good product that is useful to many different users.

>>164

Xee will never be on the App Store in its current form, it uses too many old APIs, and some undocumented ones. It needs to be rewritten before it can get on there, which is one reason I'd like to do that. Also, the new version will definitely be designed around the 10.6 featureset at least. (This will mean losing a few features, though, like progressive loading.)

Please add support for MNG and APNG formats.

>>166

Considering APNG, especially if it gets a bit more browser support. MNG probably not, it seems both over-engineered and completely dead in the water.

(Also, only after I get around to doing the rewrite for 3.0.)

If I browse the pictures with apple right arrow, is it possible that Xee also opens links to pictures?

Hi,
thanks for the great software. It's a great help for quickly going through images.
The only thing I would like to have in future versions is a option for a fixed aspect ratio when cropping. Also Xee should show the actual dimension (size) and aspect ratio of the selected part of the image in the bottom footer rather than the meassures to the margins.
Thank you!

Re 169 (jari).
I would vote for fixed aspect ratio cropping too. Let me choose the original AR or some pre-defined (4:3,3:2,16:9, user defined, last used, ...) aspect ratios. And also the possibility to crop to pre-defined (or last used) size.

Many thanks for a great and useful piece of sw.

>>169-170

That would probably be a good idea. To make sure I don't forget about it, please file an issue on the bug tracker.

Hi. I use Xee everyday and it's great! I have thought a improvement for the app.

When you close the last Xee windows, quit the app.

what you think about this?

Thanks you!

I also would like printing

Hi,

your application is great. However, JPEG colour profiles would be nice to see the real colours...

Thank you!

After updating to 2.2, the scroll wheel on my mouse no longer controls "next image" and "previous image". :( Downgrading to 2.1.1 returns the functionality.

Hi,

I too come up against the bug Matthew has just picked out in message #175 : Xee 2.2 does not respond to my mouse's scroll wheel (whether browsing or scrolling), while version 2.1.1 does. Returning to version 2.1.1 did not immediately restore functionality : I had to delete the preferences file and configure Xee again.

Maybe this bug depends on the OS version, as I'm still using Tiger 10.4.11.

Thank you and good luck !

IS Xee SUPPOSED TO WORK THIS WAY ?
When I drag six [6] selected jpg's to the app icon, it opens one, maybe two, DOES NOT show thumbnails of the other 5,
and
by the 2nd arrow click, it ignores the other 4 selected and dragged jpgs and goes to their folder and opens unselected jpgs at random.
HUH ?
is there a reason for this ?

>>177
Xee is the 'one window for each directory' model. So if those images were all in the same directory. Then thats probably the intended behavior.

>>174-175

It might be Tiger-related. I don't have a Tiger machine to test on so I can't be sure. Can you test with the same mouse on a Leopard or Snow Leopard machine?

>>177

Xee browses directories, not selected images. You don't generally open more than one image in it.

How about the incorrect color problem? Is there any intend to fix this? Would really appreciate it! :)

>>181

If I get around to doing the rewrite I'm planning, that should be solved.

>>183
horray!! :)
Great to hear. Don't want to get on your nerves, but could you give us a timeframe? Np if not. I'm happy that this problem is on your list.

Hi,

Thanks for the app, it's the fastest picture viewer on the Mac, and it's full screen - in its simplicity - is missing from many other similar apps!

Would it be possible for Xee to show images within a smart folder - or from a selection made with programs such as Path Finder or Leap - rather than from a conventional folder?

I think that that would be great when viewing pictures managed using tags or similar methods.

>>184

I was thinking I might start working on it late summer/autumn, but no idea if I actually will.

Hi!

Xee is great, but I could really use an “image”-browser with support for Safari webarchives. Thank you for such a nice app!

Hi!

Xee is great, but I could really use an “image”-browser with support for Safari webarchives. Thank you for such a nice app!

Hi,
really love Xee. Works wonderfully on old machines (G3-G4-G5 & tiger).
Thanks for making it!!!

I use it to open images using applescript like : "open image xxx with application xee" and it works great. The only problem is that the open dialog window pops up the first time the application is launched.

Would it be possible to add a "Show open dialog at startup" checkbox in the preferences??

Hi,
actually I'm experiencing some problems (crashes) with some pictures extracted from MMS. The crash reports:
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000

VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee

__TEXT                 0000000000001000-00000000000a6000 [  660K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee

As they are really personal pictures I would like another way to send it to you.
Now I'm on Lion but the problem was there with SL too...

>>193

You can mail them to paracelsus@gmail.com.

Hi,

Not a bug, just a request. As a web developer, I need to tile an image as a background etc quite often. The quickest way right now to find out how the image tiles is to create an html file and tile the image inside a browser. It would be amazing if Xee allowed you to tile an image across the whole size of the window. Currently there's "Fit on screen" button but no "Tile" button.

Thanks!

PS: I made a post in the Bugtracker as well.

PRINTING please please please ....

Can you not link the standard OSX printer component?

Feature request: "Crop & Save current view"
Use case: Picture is viewed in Fullscreen mode, Apple Trackpad is used to zoom to important area of the picture, keyboard shortcut is pressed which will crop the picture as it is seen on the screen (without the need to define a crop selection!), picture is automatically saved to the same filename without recompression. I really need this feature.

Best image viewer! But please add printing!

Best image viewer! But please add printing!

PLEASE ADD PRINTING :)

Still love this app, but still hoping additional features could be included for full screen viewing. I find in particular the zoom +/- steps to be too large. I have a wide screen Mac, and sometimes a photo is 4:3 aspect. This fits to full screen as standard but leaves black bars on either side. I really wish I could increase to full screen. The plus key does this, but sometimes overshoots the left/right side and then the image is larger than original size making it blurry. I can see a couple of easy ways to fix this:
1) A key option to fit full screen either by matching horizontal borders or another key for vertical borders
2) An option to change the incrementing zoom size (some people will obviously prefer what exists already)
3) Option in preferences to choose to automatically fit to longest side. i.e. a portrait photo will stretch to fit horizontally (cutting off the top/bottom is expected) and a landscape will do the opposite by fitting vertically

I guess option 1 or 2 is easiest, but these features would make full screen viewing much better and should be easy to implement

cannot figure out how to move a file in Xee. When I hit "Move FIle" a window slides open on the right that says "Choose Folder". Nothing happens when you click it. Shouldn't something happen when you click on "Choose Folder", like...some folders to choose from? So frustrated. I'm using Lion, and am something of a Mac newbie. Thanks.

Scrolling function is very usefull!Great!

I wish to change scroll direction.
[Current]
Mouse wheel Scroll DOWN will count down image to fist direction.
Mouse wheel Scroll UP will count up image to last direction.

I wish to know how to change wheel scroll function.

Is Xee dead? There hasn't been any updates in a very, very long time...

Hope there's still a chance for a new version! Heck, I'd even pay for it if it were in MAS.

>>204

It is awaiting a rewrite. It can not in its current form be accepted at the MAS.

I have a PNG photograph. Why does it appear darker in Xee than when I view it in Preview.

Thanks.

Wonderful, wonderful app!

My short wishlist:

• Color labels, the choice of the 7 colors (or none) that are used in the Finder to mark files, along with the ability to use a keystroke for each, e.g., alt-1, alt-2, alt-3, etc. To see the current setting, there should be a popup on the toolbar that shows current color label, and which can also be used to set the color label.

• Browse filters: Browse through images, only including those that meet criteria, such as desired color label(s), or whose name includes a given text string

Xee is simply the best viewer out there!

It's the only one who can pull off smooth multitouch scrolling.

I just wish there was the option of having the width of the images always scaled to the window/screen width. It's very helpful when you have a bunch of images of different sizes.

I would also change the icon, because it look quite silly to be frank.
Almost didn't try Xee because of that, but I'm happy I did.

Thanks a bunch for the app and hope to see it soon on the MAS along with The Unarchiver.

Agreed with #208, the smooth multitouch scrolling is wonderful and a killer point for this excellent app.

Seriously, I would pay for this App if it was in the MAS, especially if the additional features I mentioned in #201 was added.

I love how I can press a button to make it full size, I just wish I could also easily fit the 27" iMac screen to my choice. The zoom increments are too large for my preferences and being able to choose that would be great.

Anyway, sorry for keep harping on about this. This still is a great program and thanks for creating it.

Do rewrite the program for MAS, you may be surprised how much money you could make with a small charge.

Love Xee - would it be able to add support for the file extension .TBN (it's a JPEG formatted thumbnail used by XBMC and the likes).

Right now Xee opens TBN's just fine, however stepping through all the images in a directory requires clicking the individual files - versus with JPG's where clicking one is enough, after that the arrow left and right will walk through all files in that same directory.

It's just a nice to have ... :)

Keep up the good work! :)