This thread is for questions and discussion about Xee. Before posting, check that the question has not already been answered in this thread, or in the previous thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1122405906/

There is also a bug tracker for Xee here: http://code.google.com/p/xee/issues/list

If you have a bug to report, it is better to post it on the bug tracker if you can, so it will not be forgotten.

hi there!

another satisfied user here. I have just one request. please consider adding "Perspective cropping" feature to the Crop tool. it is very useful when one needs to crop photos from conference slides, photographed documents, etc.

examples of the use can be found at:

http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/10.0/help.html?content=WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-7630.html

or

http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=416#p6017

thanks and best regards from Bratislava, Slovakia!

>>153
I might be wrong, but that seems to me a highly complex feature best left to a professional image editor. Even Gimp doesn't have that.

Quick resize of images is lacking in OSX, windows has had this functionality since XP trough powertoys extensions. Simple right click on a file or group of files and you could resize them quickly using several presets. I realize Xee is not an editor, but a simple addition of ability to resize one or multiple images quickly would be very very valuable. Thank you for an awesome viewer and disregard this suggestion if it's beyond the scope of this project.

hi, it would be great if the info panel (cmd+i) could distinguish between the gif format GIF87a and GIF89a. At the moment I have to open the files in a hex editor to find this info (it's in the first six bytes of the file)

>>156

That should be easy to add, post an issue on the bug tracker so I'll remember it.

Is Xee dead? No Code changes since over a year now. :(

>>158

Mostly it is on hiatus. Most of my maintenance time has gone into The Unarchiver. I'm planning to get back to it, but it'll need a bit of an overhaul to catch up with changes in OS X since the project started.

Next version is probably going to have to be a 3.0 that breaks compatibility with older OS and hardware versions.

>>159
I really look forward to the next Xee version

Please change the icon in the next version!
It's scary.

Well, I kind of lied. There will be one more release of Xee from this codebase:

http://xee.googlecode.com/files/Xee2.2.zip

It's mostly bugfixes and tweaks, and one real new feature:

• Multitouch support, finally! Thanks to generous donations of both hardware and source code, multitouch gestures for browsing, zooming and rotating are now available. Scrolling is also smoother on trackpads and other smooth scroll devices. * Using scrolling to browse should also work better.
• Uses a newer version of the archive reading code from The Unarchiver. Can now open more archive formats, including even ISO images.
• Better compatibility with Snow Leopard. (Finding the sort order from the Finder works again, as does JPEG thumbnailing.)
• Better support for PNM files.
• More informative window titles when browsing archives.
• Many other bugfixes: Viewing the clipboard works again, cropping does not crash, keyboard shortcuts work better, and more.

This is most likely the last release using this codebase, and also the last release that will run on PPC (unless there are some urgent bug fixes). When I started writing Xee, Apple's image handing code was kind of a joke and horribly slow, but it's been a long time now, and it's now quite fast. It's time for a total overhaul of Xee to use more of OS X's image handling code instead. We'll see how that works out.

Hi !WAHa.06x36!

Can you plase add a button to the toolbar, where one can set the current picture as wallpaper, this would be really, really nice!!!! (Set as Wallpaper)

cheers,
Anna

Hi;

Just wanted to say Hi and thanks for a great app. I've only installed two versions as I came to Xee late. I do find it very handy and the latest version, 2.2 really handles multitouch well.

That said I do have suggestions.
1.
It would be nice if Xee was available on app store. This does a couple of things for us. One; it makes it easier for users to donate to the cause, especially if the charge is right. Two; and possibly most importantly it makes it very easy to keep up to date (a great feature of app store).

2.
Support of more file standards is always helpful. One I have my mind on is FITS, http://www.cv.nrao.edu/fits/ for astronomy. Oh while you are at it add a dialog that lists exactly what formats the current version supports. I went to the web page to look for an easy answer and got gibberish about Xee supporting what Preview and Quicktime does, plus a few others (paraphrased). For one thing I shouldn't have to go to the web for this info in the first place. Second I think Xee could use a little more documentation from within the the program itself.

There are of course other file formats out there that would be of interest to others, I just have a personal interest in astronomy.

3.
For version 3. I'd aggressively move forward to support the modern features of OS/X. Sometimes you have to make a break from the past and now is a good time as many of the advanced capabilities of Snow Leopard have stabilized. The use of GCD and OpenCL (where it makes sense) should have a major impact on Xee's snappiness.

4.
If you look out past Snow Leopard, you should consider full screen mode and floating tool palettes like are seen in Quicktime's movie viewer.

In any event don't think i'm being critical here. I really like Xee, you have a very good product that is useful to many different users.

>>164

Xee will never be on the App Store in its current form, it uses too many old APIs, and some undocumented ones. It needs to be rewritten before it can get on there, which is one reason I'd like to do that. Also, the new version will definitely be designed around the 10.6 featureset at least. (This will mean losing a few features, though, like progressive loading.)

Please add support for MNG and APNG formats.

>>166

Considering APNG, especially if it gets a bit more browser support. MNG probably not, it seems both over-engineered and completely dead in the water.

(Also, only after I get around to doing the rewrite for 3.0.)

If I browse the pictures with apple right arrow, is it possible that Xee also opens links to pictures?

Hi,
thanks for the great software. It's a great help for quickly going through images.
The only thing I would like to have in future versions is a option for a fixed aspect ratio when cropping. Also Xee should show the actual dimension (size) and aspect ratio of the selected part of the image in the bottom footer rather than the meassures to the margins.
Thank you!

Re 169 (jari).
I would vote for fixed aspect ratio cropping too. Let me choose the original AR or some pre-defined (4:3,3:2,16:9, user defined, last used, ...) aspect ratios. And also the possibility to crop to pre-defined (or last used) size.

Many thanks for a great and useful piece of sw.

>>169-170

That would probably be a good idea. To make sure I don't forget about it, please file an issue on the bug tracker.

Hi. I use Xee everyday and it's great! I have thought a improvement for the app.

When you close the last Xee windows, quit the app.

what you think about this?

Thanks you!

I also would like printing

Hi,

your application is great. However, JPEG colour profiles would be nice to see the real colours...

Thank you!

After updating to 2.2, the scroll wheel on my mouse no longer controls "next image" and "previous image". :( Downgrading to 2.1.1 returns the functionality.

Hi,

I too come up against the bug Matthew has just picked out in message #175 : Xee 2.2 does not respond to my mouse's scroll wheel (whether browsing or scrolling), while version 2.1.1 does. Returning to version 2.1.1 did not immediately restore functionality : I had to delete the preferences file and configure Xee again.

Maybe this bug depends on the OS version, as I'm still using Tiger 10.4.11.

Thank you and good luck !

IS Xee SUPPOSED TO WORK THIS WAY ?
When I drag six [6] selected jpg's to the app icon, it opens one, maybe two, DOES NOT show thumbnails of the other 5,
and
by the 2nd arrow click, it ignores the other 4 selected and dragged jpgs and goes to their folder and opens unselected jpgs at random.
HUH ?
is there a reason for this ?

>>177
Xee is the 'one window for each directory' model. So if those images were all in the same directory. Then thats probably the intended behavior.

>>174-175

It might be Tiger-related. I don't have a Tiger machine to test on so I can't be sure. Can you test with the same mouse on a Leopard or Snow Leopard machine?

>>177

Xee browses directories, not selected images. You don't generally open more than one image in it.

How about the incorrect color problem? Is there any intend to fix this? Would really appreciate it! :)

>>181

If I get around to doing the rewrite I'm planning, that should be solved.

>>183
horray!! :)
Great to hear. Don't want to get on your nerves, but could you give us a timeframe? Np if not. I'm happy that this problem is on your list.

Hi,

Thanks for the app, it's the fastest picture viewer on the Mac, and it's full screen - in its simplicity - is missing from many other similar apps!

Would it be possible for Xee to show images within a smart folder - or from a selection made with programs such as Path Finder or Leap - rather than from a conventional folder?

I think that that would be great when viewing pictures managed using tags or similar methods.

>>184

I was thinking I might start working on it late summer/autumn, but no idea if I actually will.

Hi!

Xee is great, but I could really use an “image”-browser with support for Safari webarchives. Thank you for such a nice app!

Hi!

Xee is great, but I could really use an “image”-browser with support for Safari webarchives. Thank you for such a nice app!

Hi,
really love Xee. Works wonderfully on old machines (G3-G4-G5 & tiger).
Thanks for making it!!!

I use it to open images using applescript like : "open image xxx with application xee" and it works great. The only problem is that the open dialog window pops up the first time the application is launched.

Would it be possible to add a "Show open dialog at startup" checkbox in the preferences??

Hi,
actually I'm experiencing some problems (crashes) with some pictures extracted from MMS. The crash reports:
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000

VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee

__TEXT                 0000000000001000-00000000000a6000 [  660K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Xee.app/Contents/MacOS/Xee

As they are really personal pictures I would like another way to send it to you.
Now I'm on Lion but the problem was there with SL too...

>>193

You can mail them to [email protected].

Hi,

Not a bug, just a request. As a web developer, I need to tile an image as a background etc quite often. The quickest way right now to find out how the image tiles is to create an html file and tile the image inside a browser. It would be amazing if Xee allowed you to tile an image across the whole size of the window. Currently there's "Fit on screen" button but no "Tile" button.

Thanks!

PS: I made a post in the Bugtracker as well.

PRINTING please please please ....

Can you not link the standard OSX printer component?

Feature request: "Crop & Save current view"
Use case: Picture is viewed in Fullscreen mode, Apple Trackpad is used to zoom to important area of the picture, keyboard shortcut is pressed which will crop the picture as it is seen on the screen (without the need to define a crop selection!), picture is automatically saved to the same filename without recompression. I really need this feature.

Best image viewer! But please add printing!

Best image viewer! But please add printing!

PLEASE ADD PRINTING :)

Still love this app, but still hoping additional features could be included for full screen viewing. I find in particular the zoom +/- steps to be too large. I have a wide screen Mac, and sometimes a photo is 4:3 aspect. This fits to full screen as standard but leaves black bars on either side. I really wish I could increase to full screen. The plus key does this, but sometimes overshoots the left/right side and then the image is larger than original size making it blurry. I can see a couple of easy ways to fix this:
1) A key option to fit full screen either by matching horizontal borders or another key for vertical borders
2) An option to change the incrementing zoom size (some people will obviously prefer what exists already)
3) Option in preferences to choose to automatically fit to longest side. i.e. a portrait photo will stretch to fit horizontally (cutting off the top/bottom is expected) and a landscape will do the opposite by fitting vertically

I guess option 1 or 2 is easiest, but these features would make full screen viewing much better and should be easy to implement

cannot figure out how to move a file in Xee. When I hit "Move FIle" a window slides open on the right that says "Choose Folder". Nothing happens when you click it. Shouldn't something happen when you click on "Choose Folder", like...some folders to choose from? So frustrated. I'm using Lion, and am something of a Mac newbie. Thanks.

Scrolling function is very usefull!Great!

I wish to change scroll direction.
[Current]
Mouse wheel Scroll DOWN will count down image to fist direction.
Mouse wheel Scroll UP will count up image to last direction.

I wish to know how to change wheel scroll function.

Is Xee dead? There hasn't been any updates in a very, very long time...

Hope there's still a chance for a new version! Heck, I'd even pay for it if it were in MAS.

>>204

It is awaiting a rewrite. It can not in its current form be accepted at the MAS.

I have a PNG photograph. Why does it appear darker in Xee than when I view it in Preview.

Thanks.

Wonderful, wonderful app!

My short wishlist:

• Color labels, the choice of the 7 colors (or none) that are used in the Finder to mark files, along with the ability to use a keystroke for each, e.g., alt-1, alt-2, alt-3, etc. To see the current setting, there should be a popup on the toolbar that shows current color label, and which can also be used to set the color label.

• Browse filters: Browse through images, only including those that meet criteria, such as desired color label(s), or whose name includes a given text string

Xee is simply the best viewer out there!

It's the only one who can pull off smooth multitouch scrolling.

I just wish there was the option of having the width of the images always scaled to the window/screen width. It's very helpful when you have a bunch of images of different sizes.

I would also change the icon, because it look quite silly to be frank.
Almost didn't try Xee because of that, but I'm happy I did.

Thanks a bunch for the app and hope to see it soon on the MAS along with The Unarchiver.

Agreed with #208, the smooth multitouch scrolling is wonderful and a killer point for this excellent app.

Seriously, I would pay for this App if it was in the MAS, especially if the additional features I mentioned in #201 was added.

I love how I can press a button to make it full size, I just wish I could also easily fit the 27" iMac screen to my choice. The zoom increments are too large for my preferences and being able to choose that would be great.

Anyway, sorry for keep harping on about this. This still is a great program and thanks for creating it.

Do rewrite the program for MAS, you may be surprised how much money you could make with a small charge.

Love Xee - would it be able to add support for the file extension .TBN (it's a JPEG formatted thumbnail used by XBMC and the likes).

Right now Xee opens TBN's just fine, however stepping through all the images in a directory requires clicking the individual files - versus with JPG's where clicking one is enough, after that the arrow left and right will walk through all files in that same directory.

It's just a nice to have ... :)

Keep up the good work! :)

I'd like to add my wish for the ability to display pictures in nested folders. For example, if the files are arranged in folders like:

foo
bar

  1.jpg
  2.jpg

baz

  3.jpg
  4.jpg

Then pointing Xee at the folder foo would cause Xee to display:

1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg, 4.jpg

Drop View:
Xee has everything I can image except for one thing:
Please add the ability to drop for example 3 pics out of 10 within a folder onto Xee.
After that Xee should only show those 3 pictures (scrolling thru the pics should only show that 3 pics and not all the others in the folder).

That would be nice.
Best regards

I often start the app and then drop a ZIP archive on its icon in the dock. I think users like me would appreciate an option to skip the open file dialog on startup.

>>213

It might change in the next version, if I ever get around to making it. Anyway, as a workaround, if you keep the icon in the dock, this works if you don't click the icon first.

I just want to thank you for this great sw. Is is amazingly fast. I can now forget about using Preview - which is worse than ever with OSX 10.7.

There may be a bug with the 'Save Losslessly' option. Several images I've rotated still end up with some pixel's RGB values slightly changed when I resave with 'Save Losslessly'. Compare rotated (218) vs original (219). The RGB values of select pixels have changed slightly eg 175,163,113 is now 176,162,113 even though I have 'Use RGB' set for 'JPEG loading'.

Original

Love this software.
I bought The Archive Browser even though The Unarchiver does the job most of the time.
Since Xee uses The unarchiver too, I'm in a way contributing to a Xee version 3.0 for the MAS.
Despite a Lion Fullscreen, I hope you put in the option to auto-zoom width.
But of course keep the smooth multitouch scrolling before all.

Just bought Archive Browser (already owned The Unarchiver), it rocks! No we want Xee aswell ;D Really, really, REALLY want a 3.0 in MAS with Lion optimization.

Hi,

generally Xee is an excellent software that I am using for years. However, during this time it became inreasingly unstable. Now it is a nuisance, if I am scrolling back and fro, the application crashes after every 50 photos or so. I am using OSX 10.7.3.

Best regards,

Ákos

Support for color profiles would be great! This is a huge omission, right now. Photographs look totally different in Xee, more washed out, than they do in browsers and other software that support color profiles.

Hi,
about Xee not beeing color profiles aware, here is my question :
I started using Xee last year on a Macbook 10.6.8, the pictures were washed out, compared to Preview or Viewit or Safari or any other soft. (jpeg or tiff files)
Last week I have tried Xee on my new Macbook pro, 10.6.8, and the problem not longer exists !! The pics look totally similar in Xee and the others softs for jpeg files. Tiff files still look washed out.
This is both right for Xee 2.0 and 2.2.
Am I right or am I dreaming ??
Anyway, my beloved Xee is my default pictures viewer again, and this is great news !!
Best regards.

Here's a crash report:

http://pastebin.com/2WdaW65x

I see this type of crash all the time (at least few a day). Xee is the only app that crashes on my machine these days.

Great software. I just wish I could make pictures fit horizontally
When I view pictures of different sizes, the zoom function, while extremely fluid, just doesn't cut it any more.
I would love to buy it on the MAS at a reasonable price.
And please keep the perfect scrolling that so many programs neglect.

Is Xee ever going to be updated?
Please tell me if I'm just wasting my time waiting.

>>233

Not the current code base, it is way too old and kludgy for current OS X versions.

I've been experimenting with a rewrite, which I hope to get done SOME day, but no guarantees when. It's a program that I use personally every day, though, so sooner or later I will have to get it up to date.

Any chance of a "zoom slider" in the next version?
The addition of the multitouch zoom is nice but not practical for desktop setups.
The only thing Xee has been missing is a way to adjust the zoom percent to an exact percent - currently (besides multitouch) it only zooms in set increments.
Otherwise, Xee is perfect for my needs.

Thanks for your time!

Nevermind, found out CTRL/Command(depending on what you have your keys set to)+mouse scroll does precise zooming!

Scratch that last message, that's just OS X's internal zoom function

Any chance of an update for Retina support? I haven't tested on one of the new MacBooks yet, but if I run Xee in HiDPI mode on 10.7.4 it seems to do pixel doubling.

And thanks for writing such an awesome program! I would be down for a paid version on the MAS.

I'm a web designer. I really love Xee!
I think that it would be better if Xee has a color picker.

> update for Retina support

is that really how things work on macs? if so, then wow, that's pretty bad.

>>240

I think it depends on which APIs are used. Some things "just work."

>>240

No OS I know of has transparent support for adjustable DPI.

>>242
i don't know of any operating system other than OS X that does pixel doubling unless your app specifically supports the screen resolution being used.

>>243

If it didn't, it would be unusably small.

>>244
i'm just saying that no other operating system that i've used has had that problem, even on a 1920x1080 8" screen.

>>245
It's not a problem. It's an intentional feature made to ensure that old applications still remain usable on a display which has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution normal displays of that size have.

Out of curiosity, what operating systems have you used which are suited for use on a 1920x1080 8" monitor?

> Out of curiosity, what operating systems have you used which are suited for use on a 1920x1080 8" monitor?

Android, PC-BSD, Ubuntu, and Windows 7.

>>247

Adjusting the DPI in Windows isn't without its own flaws.

>>248
True, but pretty much all of them are the result of people making invalid assumptions about the size of various bits of text, and most of them are merely cosmetic flaws.

I've noticed a problem with the crop feature. I select a bit to crop, then save the file and by default it has "Cropping: Expand", which saves an image larger than my crop. If I select "Cropping: Trim", it saves an image smaller than my crop. This is bizarre. By default, it should save EXACTLY what I cropped. If I put effort into selecting the exact pixel width and height and select what I want to crop, why would I want the program to make it larger or smaller than what I selected?

Ignore the above post. I figured it out. I have to save as JPEG, not "JPEG, Without Recompressing". (I assume exact crops can't be done without recompressing)

Xee is nice so far but I really need a thumbnail area with pic previews of the current folder. Adjustable thumbnail size at best. I'd love to see this so it could replace JustLooking. ;o)