This is the support thread for Xee. All kinds of questions and bugreports can be posted in here. This thread will also be linked from inside the program itself.

There is also a thread about Xee here: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1122405906/
It contains more general discussion, and announcements of new versions and updates.

I really love this application. Thank you to the creators. However, I cannot seem to be able to see any RAW images in it. I've recently upgraded my Canon Camera to 50D and their Raw files seem to be new format. I updated Camera Raw for Photoshop CS3 and it works, but Xee will not read even my earlier RAW files from the 20D camera. Any suggestions? Thanks!

>>239

Xee uses OS X's raw image loading, so you have to wait until Apple updates it.

If Preview can open it and Xee can't, though, that's a bug and I'd like a copy of the image to test with.

Two related bugs with the latest version:

• When hitting backspace and triggering the "delete after confirmation" command, you can't cancel by pressing esc, which is expected from any dialog with a cancel button. It's annoying since accidental presses force you to use the mouse.

Which leads to the second issue:

• I removed both keys bound to "Delete after confirmation" because I found myself hitting backspace accidentally all the time. But after a relaunch, these two keys are re-assigned to this command. This do not happen when I only remove one key - you need to remove both to reproduce the bug.

>>241

As far as I can tell, you can cancel that dialog with the esc key? Do you have any haxies installed that break it?

Also, file that other bug on the bug tracker so I'll remember to get around to looking at it.

Hi.
I'm having a problem very much like >>110
or rather, like part of it.
I'm using version 2.0, on PPC
here's console.log:
Xee (659, 0xa000ed88) malloc: *** vm_allocate(size=1069056) failed (error code=)
Xee (659, 0xa000ed88) malloc: *** error: can't allocate region
Xee (659, 0xa000ed88) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug
(null): Cannot allocate memory
Xee (659, 0xa000ed88) malloc: *** vm_allocate(size=1069056) failed (error code=)
Xee (659, 0xa000ed88) malloc: *** error: can't allocate region
Xee (659, 0xa000ed88) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug

followed by a crash
Note that the (size=#) is identical to the one in his post.
it seems to occur on precisely two images. Any other image loads perfectly fine.
I'd provide you with copies of them, but they are of a ahem sensitive nature.
I will see if there is any abnormality with them. Perhaps missing/incomplete/damaged EXIF? or was that bug taken care of?

>>243

Probably broken EXIF. I think the development version has a newer version of exiftags with several bugs fixed, so it might be fixed already. When the new version comes out, test again and report back if it's still broken.

Xee is great!

I had to search after an alternative software, because
preview would not open pictures anymore.
There is just one small thing bugging me with it.
Preview still tries to open on doubleclicking any pictures
despite the fact that i configured Xee for this task now.
If anyone has an answer towards this problem i would
apreciate it alot.

Thank you very much!

Are those pictures downloaded with Camino?

Great program, thanks for making it free.

A few requests, and I'm not knocking your program vs. Preview it is just that Preview has a few features that are really convenient that would be great to see partnered up with the great stuff in Xee.

Could you please add:

• a preference or option so that when you rotate a picture from horizontal to vertical it automatically 'zooms' out and fits the screen in vertical format? (This is what happens in Preview when you rotate). Currently I have to rotate, then click (or hot key) 'fit screen' to be able to see the whole photo. I looked for a preference setting for this but couldn't find one, perhaps I missed it?

• a drawer on the side for the thumbs like Preview (I find this very handy personally)

A note on a possible bug? I tried using the 'Save As' option to save a rotated photo and compare it with the original re: resolution, file size etc. for interest sake. I named the photo xxxxxx.jpeg-2.

Xee then saved this as a .doc file. ? I don't know why. I can name duplicate files like this in Preview/Finder and Seashore and they are saved correctly as jpegs.

Thanks again for a great free program, very useful.

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I tried the unofficial alpha. Smooth upscaled images is sweet, so is the performance loading huge folders. But the new eyeball icons are a lot more disturbing than before, seriously. Bothered me so much I went into the bundle and replaced all the icns with a generic one.

Where can I download a current alpha or beta version?
Also, where can I keep a tab on the estimated timeline for future releases?

>>248

Once again, those are not the official icons.

It would be very nice if Xee used Sparkle (http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/) to automatically update.

Hi.

Is there a way to change the checker background? I want to use a more Photoshop-ish version... Maybe it could be configurable/selectable?

I noticed that when viewing some psd files which have saved alpha channels, the image is displayed using the first alpha channel as the transparency mask. That should not happen, in my opinion (although the Preview app behaves the same)...

Thanks for this great app.

Any chance of adding support for Pentax PEF files? All the others are already there... Thanks!

>>255

Xee supports whatever OS X supports. If it doesn't, there's a bug which should be reported.

I have an image that is 1425x 1425 pixels...

But I need to resize it so that is is smaller (ni large than 1417 x 1417 ...

How do I do that?

HELP!!!!!

>>257

You need to use some other app, sorry.

I'm having problem with opening jpgs that are being sent through Skype. I don't know if Skype is the problem or if there is something wrong with the images before they are sent. The sender is using a PC. I've included an image with the problem. Other image programs, like preview, open the images fine.

Hi,

Excellent prgram! Preview is very annoying...

Just one request - is there any way of being able to right click on the picture itself so that you can set it as desktop background, move to trash etc? At the moment, I can't see a way of having anything but that little gloved hand icon moving over the picture....

Apart from that, it's really all you need for a picture viewing program - I especially love the way you can easily scroll through pictures using the mouse wheel!

S

Is there a way to have a thumbnail strip showing when viewing pictures in Full screen mode? This massively helps with navigation of folders containing thousands of pics.

If not, is there a "suggested additions" area or anything?

Thanks, I love Xee already, only used it for a few minutes but it's great.

[email protected]

Hi,
I just discovered Xee and i´m very pleased by i´t´s option, especially the variable shortcuts!
Only one thing i´m missing, because I mostly have jpg and raw in my folders. Would it be possible to implement an option to show either "jpg AND nef" or "ONLY jpg" or "ONLY raw"? So you would not need to click twice to see the next picture and in the slideshow Pictures also would not be shown twice.
Thanks so far!

Hi,

great little app. I love the ease of use. One suggestion would be for an image resizing option, say std sizes for small, medium and large.

otherwise thanks for a great app!

Ditto the above. A resizing option is very desirable, and the only reason I tried this program. Other applications on the Mac are too cumbersome for such a silly problem.

Thanks!

When I open any image in Xee, I see black and dark gray vertical boxes in the background. I want plain background. How can I do it?

Hi!

Xee does ghost the menu entry for showing the clipboard, though I have a PICT image in the clipboard slot, which I want to view. Also, it may be nice, especially for such cases, to open with an empty window, instead of an "Open File..." dialog. One could aso d
&d images onto there.

>>269

Xee is not an editor, so opening an empty window is somewhat non-sensical.

Also, which OS version are you having clipboard problems on? Snow Leopard seems to have less support for PICT clipboard data.

Hi,
i just downloaded Xee and it's really fast!!!!!
But I just want to see and open one type of file within one folder! Like Xee should just open JPEG or RAW but not both, because I would not like to see each pic twice...
I've configured Xee via preferences, but without effect - why?!?

Please help! :-)

Topic 271 still unsolved - OS is snow leopard, is it related to the OS that the preferences settings do not take any effect?!?

>>272
Those preferences are only for setting the default app for the various extensions.

It has nothing to do with making Xee unable to open a file.

Why is there a difference regarding RAW support between OSX 10.5 and 10.6?
With 10.6 it is possible to open Leica RAW (.rwl) in contrast to 10.5 :(
Or is the Adobe RAW component loaded (I couldn't verify this with activity monitor)...
btw. the file-type is not supported by the Apple RAW component on either system revision

>>274

Xee just uses the OS X ImageIO framework to load raw files. Can Preview open .rwl on 10.5? If not, Xee can't either.

>>275
Thank you for the answer.
Strangely neither 10.5 oder 10.6 is able to open this kind of RAW-Format with preview.app.
But xee can open the file on my MBP with 10.6.2 - my iMac with 10.5.8 cannot.
The only difference on my MBP is the RAW Software from Capture One (4 Std.) and Adobe (CS4) - which is installed. Both software solutions can read this filetype.

>>276

That's very strange. If Xee can, then Preview should too, I would think.

Hi,
I thought I had a problem with Finder (OSX 10.6.2) but now I think I found a problem with Xee.
I opened an image (shot with a Casio EX-Z12) that was shot on portrait but Finder (icon view, show icon preview) shows the preview on landscape (I think there is no rotation info on the image itself). Then I used Xee to rotate the image and save it losslessly. Now Finder shows the right frame (portrait) but the content isn't rotated (no problem opening the image with Xee). I even tried to save the rotated image as PNG and everything works fine.
(Here I attach just the Finder rendered previews).

Wonderful little program, thank you.

I'm using .PEF files (Pentax RAW format) which Xee can apparently read, but does not consider, when going from image to image in a folder. Any way to add PEF as one of the extensions Xee looks at?

Thanks, best,

Geza

Great Program! Thanks!

Feature Request:

Keyboard shortcut to stop/start slideshow and/or toolbar button.

>>280

If I recall correctly, I am using the list of extensions that OS X claims to be able to handle for that, so it might be an OS X bug. File an issue on the bug tracker, though, to remind me to check it more thoroughly.

>>281

Use the keyboard config in the preferences window.

I am having the same issue as Rigido (#279)!! Very annoying! It will also give the correct thumbnail if you Save As and choose 'JPEG, without recompressing,'but then writes over the Date Created with the current date/time - most people want to preserve the original date/time.

Thought this was a great program, until discovering this...

I could not find any documentation, hence I ask here at the forums:

How can I crop and then losslessly save in Xee?

Xee is advertised with "Losslessy rotate and crop JPEG images".
When I rotate the image, Xee allows me to use "Menu > Save Losslessy".
But when I start the crop tool and apply it, Xee makes the "Save losslessly" menu inactive.

According to my understanding of JPEG, lossless crop&save would require me to cut along the "JPEG MCU block lines" and not through them, as the outer blocks would then need recoding.

I tried whether there is a modifier key, that helps me to snap the cropping lines along the block lines, but neither ALT, SHIFT or CMD helped.

>>285

"Save losslessly" is disabled when you crop, because that is obviously not really a "lossless" operation.

Use Save As and choose "JPEG, without recompressing".

>>286

What happens on a technical level if I choose "JPEG, without recompressing"?

And is my imagination of cutting along MCU block lines possible?

And if, could you imagine adopting your GUI, so that the cropping grid only allows cutting along the MCU block lines?

>>287

"JPEG, without recompressing" is just does the same lossless JPEG transforms as most lossless JPEG editing tools, transforming and reordering MCUs, and dropping those that are cropped out.

There's an option of whether to expand or contract the cropping area so it matches MCU borders. I did want it to be possible to see directly in the GUI how that would work, but I never figured out what the proper way to implement it would be, so I never got it done.

>>288

I have a suggestion of how to implement it in the GUI:

A) If one moves the crop frame normally, MCU lines are ignored.
B) If you move the crop frame with the ALT key pressed, the crop frame always snaps to the nearest MCU block line/edge.

Will you implement this? Would be great!

The lossless crop process as I imagine it, in detail:

1) Already the initial point shall be set directly at a MCU edge point. To achieve this already within the first step, the user holds down the ALT key and moves the mouse around without a mouse-button pressed until the cursor points at the desired snapping point. Note: The mouse movements do not drag a frame yet, they only set the initial point!
2) Then the user press-and-holds a mouse-button and remains holding the ALT key and moves the cursor to determine the second edge point and hence already determines the complete crop frame.
3) Possibly continue to move the other edges/lines until the cropping frame is completed as desired.
4) Possibly move the whole frame along the MCU-raster by holding the ALT key and click-and-holding the mouse cursor within the frame square, followed by moving the mouse and hence the frame around, until the mouse button is released.

Note: If setting the initial edge on the raster (1) cannot be realised, it is also possible to simply start the initial edge on an arbitrary point (likely no MCU edge), set the other snapped edge(s)/line(s) first (2) and in the last step correct the initial arbitrary point to a MCU edge!

I also have the same problem as #279. I like this program, but the problem is really annoying.

Dear Developer: What do you think about my suggestion?

i uploaded the files correctly, changed the permissions, and edited the config.pl file, yet when i acess it from my browser, it tells me that it cannot connect to the mysql server. please help :(

How to set destination folders in version 2.1.1?
I didn't found anything in menu that could do that.

Also menu items "File->Copy File" and "File->Move File"
are gray, even though image file is opened.

is it a bug or I am missing something?

I need to cut a small part of an image. I don't know how, because the menu item edit > cut ist grey.

>>290
Dear Developer: What do you think about my suggestion?

>>292,298
Dear Spammer: Please stop spamming. You'll get a reply if and when WAHa decides to reply, and your spamming is more likely to piss him off and get him to ban you than get him to reply sooner. Also, learn to use sage.

Multi-Touch support？i love in it

Please add the option to use an image as a wallpaper from inside xee.

Hi,
when I browse through pics with Xee, all of them appear washed out (colors look faded). If you open the same pic in Xee & Preview and compare the two, the difference is quite apparent.

Is there a way to make Xee display the pic in normal colors?? Otherwise it's pretty much useless for me.....

Great app! Just discovered it.

2 features would make it perfect for me. A thumbnail view and a tree view of my hard drive contents so I could navigate and click any folder and it would open that folder. Accessing it off the Open menu item is more cumbersome. One I selected a folder it would start showing thumbnails which I could scroll through (assuming enough) and then click one to view that image and then from that image continue forward or backward via your slide show functionality. Esc would take me back to the thumbnails. Perhaps for performance considerations, consider caching the thumbnailed images.

One other feature, right click on an image for a context menu with editor options and rotate options.

>>302
Color profile support is hard to do in OpenGL. Here are two posts from the developer on the topic:
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1122405906/146
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1122405906/623

What I did: Cropping with ctrl k, make selection, enter, save as, using the same file name, jpeg without recompression, replace.

What happens: When I'm in windowed mode, it sometimes switches to full screen mode. When I'm in full screen mode, it sometimes switches to windowed mode. Also, sometimes the program crashes. I hit relaunch, and I see the file was properly cropped before the crash.

Xee version 2.1.1 on OS X 10.5.

I can't open my iPhotos in this? How do I navigate to the folder with iPhotos in it? I can navigate to the iPhoto app but it's greyed out, and so I can't right-click to get to package contents & view the photos. It must be something simple I am overlooking. Can you help? thanks!

I create IPTC metadata in Lightroomn 2 anc check to see if it can be read outside LR by using Xee. (Yes, I AM paranoid). Everything is there EXCEPT "Date Created" under the "Image" subheading of IPTC. This is important since I have about 10k scanned images, and the EXIF data shown is the date scanned, not the date the photo was taken.

Xee version 2.1.1 on OS X 10.6.4

>>310

Sounds like a straightforward bug. File an issue on the bug tracker, and include an image that shows the problem, and I'll try to get around to fixing it.

i would like to report a bug

MAC OS 10.5.8 - Xee 2.1.1

after a mirror horizontal operation and file saving

a thin strip appears on the right side of the picture

BR

Sebastien
www.aem38.fr

>>312

That is normal behaviour. It is a consequence of how JPEG works. The only way to get rid of it is to crop away a bit more than than that strip. You can tell Xee to do this by using "Save as..." with "JPEG (without recompressing)".

OK thx, that's what i've done !

sorry for the inconvenience ;)

soon

Sebastien
www.aem38.fr

Why do certain GIF and PNG images have this white background with gray "squares," while Preview, for example, will display the same image nicely without this white background?

>>315
The squares are there to indicate to you that it's transparent and not just an image that has a white background.

Can someone tell me how can I disable that when I touch the scroll button on my mouse, it will either move to the next or previous pics?

It's really annoying so I'd like to completely disable the middle mouse button in Xee.

MAC OS X 10.6.8 with Xee 2.2:
Feature request: "Crop & Save current view"
Use case: Picture is viewed in Fullscreen mode, Trackpad is used to zoom to important area of the picture, keyboard shortcut is pressed which will crop the picture as it is seen on the screen (without the need to define a crop selection!), picture is automatically saved to the same filename without recompression. Let me know what I should donate, I really need this feature.

Is it possible to use Lightroom 3 as an editor from Xee? When I click on "open in editor" Lightroom doesn't appear in the list of available editors?

I think it would be a good idea to use for a image browsing Lion's features like "swipe between pages" for magic mouse and trackpad, otherwise, work with these devices in Xee is not usefull.

Two questions:

I run on 10.7.2. and

a) I cant get the multigestures to run (why?)
b) I since 2.2. I cant close a Fulscreenwindows with the ESC button, thats really annoying. Anybody can help?

Thank you very much!

Two questions:

I run on 10.7.2. and

a) I cant get the multigestures to run (why?)
b) I since 2.2. I cant close a Fulscreenwindows with the ESC button, thats really annoying. Anybody can help?

Thank you very much!

Two questions:

I run on 10.7.2. and

a) I cant get the multigestures to run (why?)
b) I since 2.2. I cant close a Fulscreenwindows with the ESC button, thats really annoying. Anybody can help?

Thank you very much!

Hello,

I cannot tell if a jpeg is 'progressive' or 'baseline' from the 'image info', do I look for the wrong place or Xee does not have this function? If Xee lacks this function, could you consider to add this function?

Thank you!

I loooooove xee! Perfect replacement of ACDSee for me. No database, no import export, just browsing my holiday snapshots folders. I love it.

Any plans to include small movie clips in slideshow?

rock on pls!

I just want to tell you how much I love Xee. It's the best picture viewer I've ever used - and I've used picture viewers on nearly 25 different operating systems.

It's also great to be able to open Amiga IFF images! (pity I have to add .IFF extensions to filenames to view them, but I can't expect this to work like an Amiga program and parse the first few bytes of the file for the filetype regardless of extension.... )

Lion broke preview, about which I have grumbled at Apple. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3472948

Xee fixed it — thank you.

>>326

It will actually read them even if they have the wrong name if you drop them on the icon. But scanning the file contents of every file in a directory would be too annoyingly slow, so you can't browse a directory of files unless they have the right extensions.

Ah, you're right! Awesome. That'll come in handy because I've got thousands of Amiga images with useful self-made extensions I don't want to change.

I love your Unarchiver program too. Thanks very much!

Anyway of adding a rating/label/file lock to this so you can somehow mark images?

Unfortunately, I cannot use Xee on Lion 10.7.2 (MBP early 2011) as it regularly causes kernel panic in video card driver.

Steps to reproduce the issue:

1. Open Xee version 2.2;
2. select View -> Always Open In Full Screen (not sure this step is required);
3. browse in Finder any JPEG/TIFF image and open it with Xee, image opens in full screen;
4. press Esc to close the image.

Repeat steps 3-4 until kernel panic on step 4. It seems that large TIFF images (16 Mpix, 16 bits/channel) are more likely to reproduce this issue.

Configuration:
Model: MacBookPro8,1, BootROM MBP81.0047.B1E, 2 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.7 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.68f96
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, Built-In, 512 MB

Does library open any of Adobe illustrator, PSD or InDesign file formats?

I love the Xee app, just one annoying bug. I run Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 and just downloaded the Xee app.

Now to the bug. I can´t set Xee to be the default app for images, I know the procedure for making an app a default one for specific filetypes. It just won't stuck as a default app for images.

Please help, otherwise a great app.

I love the Xee app, just one annoying bug. I run Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 and just downloaded the Xee app.

Now to the bug. I can´t set Xee to be the default app for images, I know the procedure for making an app a default one for specific filetypes. It just won't stuck as a default app for images.

Please help, otherwise a great app.

I'd like to add my wish for the ability to display pictures in nested folders. For example, if the files are arranged in folders like:

foo
bar

  1.jpg
  2.jpg

baz

  3.jpg
  4.jpg

Then pointing Xee at the folder foo would cause Xee to display:

1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg, 4.jpg

Great piece of soft !!!

GIVE US LABELS ! GIVE US LABELS ON SHORTCUTS !

shortcut orginal config if weird. arrows are for navigating, not cmd arrow !
Any way to save config ?

again :
GIVE US LABELS ! GIVE US LABELS ON SHORTCUTS PLEASE !
and I'll definitively adopt Xee ! because preview is a pain !

And for christmas, I'll ask for folder batch 600x800 resize with image list on right to handle them.

Xee could be the mac version of the excellent Irfanview.

Keep up ! Excellent work and spirit !