Wakaba ban system (33)

1 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-20 14:08 ID:xSY6eswz [Del]

I want to get a ban system running on my board that will say to users why they were banned and how long for, and possibly saving the information to a database table. The DB table thing is because I have more than 1 board, and I want a global ban to work without me having to copy paste bans all the time.

So, does anyone have any suggestions where to start? I originally tried to accomplish this by fagging around with mod_rewrite, but I'd prefer a slightly more elegant way of doing things.

2 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-20 16:03 ID:Dzu62Ss7 [Del]

What's inelegant about a rewrite map?

3 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-20 16:42 ID:xSY6eswz [Del]


Not saying it's inelegant, but it just seems to me that having a ban system written into the actual script would probably be less of a headache.

4 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-20 17:06 ID:Heaven [Del]

There is one.

5 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-21 10:16 ID:xSY6eswz [Del]


I meant one like I suggested in >>1 ¬_¬

6 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2009-01-22 11:39 ID:Heaven [Del]

I would suggest considering whether you really want to be the kind of site that treats its users like children.

7 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-26 05:20 ID:Kp10aWU8 [Del]


By telling them why they were banned and when they can come back?

8 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-26 05:56 ID:Heaven [Del]

I think he's trying to parallel it with a "time out" in the corner.

Personally I think it's much more important to have that sort of information on the server end, i.e. this person was banned for flooding all the posts of the board with 100 new threads of guro pics, so later on when they whine about how they were banned and never posted anything you'll know they're full of shit. It's also useful in terms of keeping bans to a sane time length, since IPs change and someone completely different might be using that IP, and it's sort of silly to try posting on a board that you've never been on only to find out that you've been dealt an IP address that used to belong to some asshat last year and the site's admins never clear entries from the ban list.

But on the other hand the whole "you were banned for 1 day for posting "mudkips" in a no-mudkip thread" nonsense, and even more so the (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) that tends to go with these superfluous bans, is completely ridiculous, and the "advanced" mechanisms of boards like kusaba et al. only promote this behavior.

9 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-26 09:41 ID:pMOJExXt [Del]

I agreed with everything you said until '(UWBFTP).' I think a message like that is important, especially on high-traffic boards. It shows the users that moderation, and moreso, administration is taking place. It shows users that while anonymous posting promotes a certain kind of consequence-free mindset, people are still watching and accountability will be had, if necessary.

10 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-26 09:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

Pardon my failure to sage appropriately.

11 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-26 11:57 ID:Heaven [Del]

You are now aware of the $10 you could have spent elsewhere.

12 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2009-01-26 12:35 ID:Heaven [Del]


What >>8 said. I consider banning to be for getting rid of people that basically should not be posting on the board, ever. There's no point in telling them when they can come back, because they can't. Spammers and people attacking the board are the kind of people you use bans on.

Using banning to "teach people a lesson" or give them a "slap on the wrist" is just treating your users as children, and that will only breed resentment and more childishness all around.

13 Name: LiteralKa!!UIR4DE3n : 2009-01-27 18:28 ID:Heaven [Del]

>Using banning to "teach people a lesson" or give them a "slap on the wrist" is just treating your users as children, and that will only breed resentment and more childishness all around.

No need to state the obvious example(s).

14 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-27 19:39 ID:Dzu62Ss7 [Del]

If your board is about a stupid or dangerous topic (some kind of porn, some kind of shounen thing, something Maullar likes, something not porn that loli porn exists for), it's easily possible to attract stupid users who don't read your rules but can contribute, and might after a temp ban or warning. Anyway, it really inconveniences people to only have permanent bans on a dynamic IP.

15 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-28 16:10 ID:Heaven [Del]

If they're too stupid to read the rules, why do you want them on your board in the first place? They're probably too dumb to actually contribute to the board. And if your board is "stupid" or "dangerous", why would you want to have it anyway?

16 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-29 08:16 ID:oHvq5Yan [Del]

itc people decide how everyone should run their own websites.

17 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-29 16:19 ID:Heaven [Del]

> itc people decide how everyone should run their own websites.

more like "people who have been around the internet for years tell people who haven't how to not make shitty websites."
unfortunately some people seem to need to learn for themselves that if you treat your users like children, they're going to act like children.

18 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-29 23:41 ID:Heaven [Del]

what's the "c" in "itc"?

19 Name: Anonymous : 2009-01-30 02:15 ID:Heaven [Del]

probably a dvorak typo for "itt".

20 Name: Anonymous : 2009-02-02 02:25 ID:Heaven [Del]


oh the irony

21 Name: Anonymous : 2009-02-11 13:18 ID:cNI35MEQ [Del]

in this chat

22 Name: Anonymous : 2009-02-23 10:53 ID:Dzu62Ss7 [Del]

We can't all have boards about fine art and wine tasting.

23 Name: Anonymous : 2009-04-02 15:28 ID:GveyQlLN [Del]

What you and a lot of other people seem to be forgetting is the fact that not everyone is using the script for the exact same purpose.
I would have great use for a feature like this.
I can't tell but it seems to me that you are the creator or the developer of the software, and having that sort of closed minded attitude as an open source programmer will hurt you in the long run when someone develops a better script that can do these things and your script becomes outdated and old.
I'm not saying take every request seriously but it seems like a script like this is in high demand.

24 Name: Anonymous : 2009-04-02 18:41 ID:Heaven [Del]

Lots of completely stupid features are in "high demand". That doesn't mean he's obligated in some way to put them in there.

Whether or not to add whatever feature has been discussed to death; Waha has his reasons and if you'd read through this board I'm confident that you would come to the same conclusion. Further, most of the features requested are really quite easy to add. This isn't rocket science, it's an imageboard. A half-decent developer could build a simple one in an afternoon.

25 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2009-04-03 12:37 ID:Heaven [Del]


I'm not doing this to provide a service to you. I wrote the script once because it amused me, and because I had ideas I wanted to promote. I'm just not interested in getting users at any cost, especially not when I've mostly moved on to other things and don't pay much attention to this codebase at all any longer.

What I wanted to get back for the work I put in was for people to create image boards that were amusing for me to use, and many people did just that. Why would I spend time and effort in adding features that would only make me dislike the result? Are you willing to pay me for it?

26 Name: Piyoko!skVdjceh/k : 2009-04-05 19:37 ID:F6GdngKc [Del]

if paying you could get some features I'd like, I'd fucking pay you, dude. And I'm not talking about stickies, either.

If I can get a little list together, and we can work out some sort of exchange, I'd totally make it worth your while. This is sometime in the not-so-near future, mind you, but I suck at Perl and you're pretty good at it, so I'd totally believe in compensating you for your time, especially since I know you have better ways of spending your leisure time.

27 Name: Anonymous : 2009-04-10 05:38 ID:Heaven [Del]

Just formally announce that you've stopped working on Wakaba and Kareha and that all questions have been previously answered in the two support threads therefore there will no longer be any active support for them.

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29 Name: Ranon!1qiKDn9IIo : 2009-10-18 17:25 ID:3c8Y0Vid [Del]


There's not really much to be done, I see Wakaba as a nice little base to play around with that's powerful as hell (thanks to perl). Really, it does pretty much everything an imageboard should do.

As for Kareha... well, it's pretty damn hackable, although it's processor intensity for just a text board is a bit much, although it's probably preferred by a lot of people just because of how easy php is to learn and run.

The that might ever need updating in wakaba are:

  • The spam list (easy shit).
  • Virus checker (a lot of hosts have one built in so it might not even be needed at all).

...I can't think of anything else right actually.

I think WAHa deserves a fucking BROFIST for being a pretty cool guy eh, he codes boards and doesn't afraid of anything.

30 Name: Anonymous : 2009-10-18 19:23 ID:Heaven [Del]


back to /lounge/, please.

> a pretty cool guy eh, he codes boards and doesn't afraid of anything.

wow, you really fucked that meme up bad.

31 Name: Ranon!1qiKDn9IIo : 2009-10-19 16:24 ID:AZ3MsYLQ [Del]



32 Name: Anonymous : 2009-11-08 23:53 ID:eeaZQOS9 [Del]

is there a way to set up spam.txt to prevent posting from any host other than localhost?

33 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2009-11-09 08:03 ID:Heaven [Del]


No, use Apache config for that.

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