This thread is for all your simple questions about installing and running Wakaba or Kareha, that just require quick answers. Please don't create any more new threads for issues like that, post them in here instead.

Well guys, I'm here to ask a question that quite a few of my friends aretoo timid to ask:

I need a clear rundown with installation. A REAL clear walkthrough. Existing instructions are made by coders for coders, I feel like an Italian kid trying to read Portugeese.

I am not a coder by any stretch of the imagination. I can screw around in HTLM in the most basic fashion. That's about it.
I download the files and I have no idea where to place them. I have this folder full of... stuff. Do I simply upload the folder via FTP and viola, instant wakaba page?

I have a Mac running OSX 10.8 and the '.pl' files do not open in browsers like the instructions say. I can open them in a txt reader and dick with it there.. but then what?.

Oh, I've already been to the Wakaba 'quick start' page.
I get instructions like "Start a database", "install thumbnailer" and "config Wakaba". I click to get details only to be told that 'text does not exist yet'. Not much help at all.

The server side of things is all clear, I know this because a friend of mine is letting me bum space from his domain and he already has a wakaba page... (which he forgot how to install also.)

There are a multitude of others that share my frustration.
This is my plea for getting the secret to getting this thing to work! Help me and I will erect a statue bearing your likeness.

Many Thanks!!!!!!

>>763
create a mysql database

upload the files and required directories (/src, /res, /thumb, /css, and /include)

CHMOD 755 wakaba.pl and captcha.pl

edit config.pl to reflect your mysql information and preferred board settings.

goto yoursite.com/wakaba/wakaba.pl and hope you didn't mess anything up

and that's about it.

>>761

Thanks for the info ;)

I'm afraid that i don't have the enought time to do this, so i'll disable it, thanks again.

I'm absolutely confused. I cannot install kareha.

Exactly what do I have to do? It'd be really, really nice if someone were to write a simple, step-by-step guide to installing it for those of us who are terribly confused by all of this.

For one, do you have to download MySQL, because I have MySQL databases provided by my webhost?

I don't understand any of what you all are saying, and I guess I should look into it more, but man...

And this is for kareha, not wakaba.

http://wakaba.c3.cx/docs/docs.html#KarehaQuickStart

I'm having a weird problem with oekaki.. it seem that it save all drawing using the user ip.. so when the user want to draw another pic, it say can't save file because the filename already exist..

Maybe I misconfigured something?

>>768

nevermind, i found the solution.. let wakaba rename the png file..

How can I add an area in Wakaba which lists thread subjects, like Fchan has? Something similar to what's happening in div id="threadbox" on this board? Thanks in advance

You implement it yourself, I guess. There is no such feature in the base version.

...Yeah, I realize that, but could you give me any guidelines like what files, functions, whatever would I be working with within this script? I don't expect anyone to write out a bunch of code for me, I'm just not familiar with the inner-workings of this script, so I would like to know what I would be focusing on. Thanks.

>>772
Don't alter things if you're not able to read the "code." If you do, remember to keep backups of your original file.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but maybe you should learn up on some perl and then start tinkering with the imageboard.

If you wanted to add something like you're asking for you would only need to add a section to futaba_style.pl. Basically the thread list on fchan is a stripped down clone of the threads themselves. All you need to do is copy the thread list code and strip out everything except the thread subjects then add it below the post form.

I have a problem with wakaba and I hope you can help me.

When I make a post I get this:

Method Not Allowed

The requested method POST is not allowed for the URL /wakaba/wakaba.html.

Ok, so I read somewhere that if a web host does not support POST then it is pretty stupid. I looked it up and my web host does support POST. The support forum also told me that you can't send POST-data to an HTML-file.

I really don't get it. Isn't the wakaba.html supposed to redirect me to some data-processing perl-file and then send me back to the html-file?

Anyway, thanks for your help!

Is the POST content somehow getting redirected to the html file when the script forwards? That's kind of strange.

Does anything get posted? Does setting ALTERNATIVE_REDIRECT to 1 in the config help?

How can i make wakaba show the original filename in the thread layout?

You can't, unless you implement that feature yourself.

I see, thanks.

So how can i allow people to upload duplicates of pictures in different threads? I couldn't find it in the config file so maybe that has to be implemented to.

I just mean that when you don't have a fast moving board sometimes someone wants to post the same pic that has already been posted in another thread, he can't. I would like to have that protection for threads only, not whole boards.

Same deal.

Whenever I try to post anything from the manager post section, I get this error:

"Anti-spam filters triggered.

If you are not a spammer, you are probably accidentially trying to use an URL that is listed in the spam file. Try editing your post to remove it. Sorry for any inconvenience."

It doesn't happen when posting normaly.

>>785
search the threads here more, i believe that particular problem relates to the names of the fields for the moderator post panel being out dated.

Perhaps it's just me being clueless, but I can't find any mention of this problem.

>>788
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1141929669/634,635

It doesn't explain how to fix the problem in detail but if you know your way around futaba_style.pl it shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Typical, I spent ages checking every other thread on the board and diddnt look through this one well enough.
I have no idea of my way around there, but I can hack at it for a while and find my way around, at least I know what file now. Thank you. =-)

Waha, I know you're not so keen on stickies, but over at 420chan our users keep demanding it, I'm not asking you to implement it into wakaba but if you could point me in the right direction of how to implement it myself that would be great. Link is where I can be reached if you have any time you could spare.

Awesome software man, we've been running it for years with no real problems.

>>791
How about he justs posts the info here? All of us keep demanding it on this board, too :D

>>791
It's not that hard. Perhaps it's time to get moderators/admin that aren't 15/16 years old.

>>791-792
if you want that type of board, why not just use phpbb?

I added an oekaki to my board, and it seems to work well, except that the captchas you get after you draw are outdated, you either have to remember the captcha in the post before you enter the applet or open another window with the thread so you get a fresh captcha.

I've removed captchas from the board altogether for the time being but I'd rather keep them if I can fix this glitch. Anyone have similar problems?

I'm an administrator of a fairly large new *chan (http://11chan.net/b/) and our /b/ and /i/ boards use Wakaba 3.0.7. We have a lot of bugs regarding admin features, mainly due to the fact that the owner (f0rt) isn't fixing it.

The manager post form is the most important feature for me, yet the most broken. First, the manager post form always triggered the anti-spam filters. I found a thread on here that fixed that and f0rt fixed it for me. I'm able to post with it now. However, there remain two major problems:

1. The board is forced anonymous, and although there is a Name and Subject field in the Manager Post form, my name/tripcode is displayed as "Anonymous" when I type in Nakamura#[my tripcode]. Am I typing in the name wrong?
2. Whenever I try to add HTML to the post, it fucks up the board completely, and whoever tries to access /b/ gets a message saying PARSING ERROR and points to a tag saying </blockquote>, which I never even added. Then I have to delete the post for /b/ to work again.

Another major problem is the banning system. Whenever I ban someone, I have no control over how long I want the ban to be, and so whenever I ban someone, their IP is unbanned automatically in three hours because that is, apparently, the default ban length.

How do I fix these three problems? They're very important.

>>796
Forced anonymous can be turned on/off via editing the config.pl. If you do not have ftp access to the imageboard directory then you will need to get f0rt to do it.

With regards to the html... I don't really know. What you can do is set:

use constant USE_XHTML => 0;

and to uncomment the following lines in the .htaccess file like so:

#<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
#RewriteEngine On
#RewriteCond %{HTTP_ACCEPT} application/xhtml\+xml
#RewriteRule \.html$ - [T=application/xhtml+xml;charset=utf-8]
#</IfModule>

That should get rid of the parsing error because it forces the board to display its contents whether or not it is 100% compliant XML.

By the way, there's no such thing as a fairly large and new *chan. You've got to survive longer than a couple years, fight off constant child pornography floods, deal with endless /b/ trolls, and the occasional legal dispute before you can sit down and tell yourself anyone cares about your dime a dozen imageboard. No offense.. that's just the reality of it. There's new (unneeded) public futaba style imageboards opening every other day.

Sometimes I think our communities would fair better if we worked together.

First, please read the big bold text at the top of the board and don't start new threads that I have to clean up. There is a point why there are single threads for these things, which is to make it easier for people to find information, like you already did.

Second, HTML input in the manager for is dumped straight into the page, and by default it is sent as xhtml, meaning it has to be well-formed XML. >>797 tells you how to turn of the usage of XHTML, though, after which you can use good old tag soup.

Also, forced anonymous applies to everyone, even admins.

Finally, there is no automatic timeout for bans. They stay until you remove them. They most definitely do not disappear after three hours, I have no idea why you think they would.

why does http://wakaba.c3.cx/antispam/spam.txt have >> in it?

>>799
also, i had to use OMG HAX to put >&gt in that post.
also, 800GET~

>>800
it's two greater than signs.... zomg hax. perhaps it's used so people can't insert URLs into >> reply links.

>>801
how can people insert urls into >> links if that's not in spam.txt?

It's because there was a horribly, horribly broken spam bot at one point that would post lots of posts with nothing but >> links except it was so broken it posted them as &gt;&gt.

I'm getting "Premature end of script headers: wakaba.pl" errors in my error_log and wakaba.pl just displays a blank page. I'm trying to run the latest Wakaba version through CGI, on Apache 2.2. What might be causing this?

>>804

http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1109033191/

I had to put kareha in my /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ directory, and then edited the config file to put the imageboard in /var/www/imgboard which is the webserver root.

the path to the imageboard from the web would be "mydomain.com/imgboard"
but kareha is trying to do "mydomain.com/var/www/imgboard"

any ideas how to fix this?

There is no real support for having the script and data files in different directories. You'd have to hack the source to make it figure these things out more intellgently, or else get a real host.

>>808

Because signed arithmetic is bounded in MySQL, I think it was. There might be some better workaround than that, but it was a quick fix.

Also, if Formatting is not set to anything, I'm just going to blame browser bugs, unless someone can prove me wrong on that.

hello, me again. I figured out my fail apache configuration.

I am having trouble with post numbering though. It starts over with each thread. Is this a configuration issue? I can't find an opiton for it.

>I am having trouble with post numbering though. It starts over with each thread.

lol
never seen this

>>811

:/

should I have murked loar

>>812
i think he meant it's something he's never seen before. not being sarcastic. (i haven't seen/heard of this either) are you running stock wakaba or what?

>>810 if you're running kareha, that's how it works. Even in mode_image. You have to use wakaba if you want the numbering style you're thinking of.

Does anyone know how to edit the perl script or w/e to add modify the generated code for the board? I was wanting to add in some Javascript shiny-ness for when you click to view the photos on my image board, but am at a loss as I dont know perl. Though I can follow instructions if someone might provide them. all i need is the <script> to go in the header and a rel="" to go into <img> tag things.

>>815
just edit the html in templates.pl (for kareha) or futaba_style.pl (for wakaba).

spam trap

I've got Kareha up and running, everything seems fine except I'm getting the 0-byte thumbnail problem as per >>301

I can't do any logchecking or anything like that, as I don't control the server it's on. Any suggestions? Is wakautils supposed to be set executable or something?

hi,
does anyone know how to do the multi file submission on wakaba?

like users can upload more then one file?? thanks!!

You can't.

ok well then is it a possible to make a post a sticky whenever you submit it?

No.

Posting non-image files (in my case .rar files; didn't test other filetypes) in Wakaba with Japanese filenames results in a 404 error when attempting to download the file. The file is still in the /src folder, but for some reason, it's impossible to download it through Wakaba. Is there any way to get around this?

Hmm, most likely some kind of character set mismatch between server and client. I don't think I try to normalize the character sets of filenames, and I'm not sure if browsers send the filename in native charset or in the charset specified for the page.

What browser, OS version, and locale setting are you using to upload?

>>824
Firefox, Windows XP SP2. My locale setting is set to Japanese.

Sounds like it's being sent in Shift_JIS or something and things break down... Unfortunately, I don't have a good idea for fix right now.

Getting Kareha (latest version, whatever it is right now, too lazy to look) to run under apache2 and mod_perl2 was quite a pain, so to speak... in the end, beyond what is extensively described on the internet, I had to do the following:

• set all use lib paths to the absolute path of the scripts manually
• remove all use strict instructions, as they were causing complaints on constant definitions
• set $self to the relative to the webroot path of kareha.pl in wakautils.pl as it otherwise wouldn't set the target of the forms correctly

Any possibility to get cleaner, "official" workarounds to the problem that made these necessary in the first place?

Regards,
Anonymous.

>>827
I meant setting $self in templates.pl, not wakautils.pl. Sorry.

For Kareha's auto-generated password, how often would the same password show up for 2 unique people or 5+ unique people. Also, why would it not be unique (other than sharing the same computer)?

Is there some sort of default password that is used when JS/Cookies are off?

And by default I mean no password.

>>829

The default password is empty, but the "password" shown in the admin panel is hashed, meaning that an empty password shows up as some random string, which is probably what is confusing you.

>>827

Considering the problems, I am not sure if it is even possible to make a version that will work cleanly on both CGI and mod_perl. For now, mod_perl is unsupported.

I'm having trouble with making manager posts. First of all I get "Error: No comment entered." when I just enter a commment, and the spam filter is triggered when I try to include a file.

I have read all relevant posts in detail, and tried commenting out code as in >>545, to no avail and taken a look at >>634 and >>635, which is where I think the problem lies.

Can someone please expand on >>634 and >>635 as at present there is no way of making a manager post at all.

>>831 Yeah, it seems that's the case. I know the string well.

I am having an issue with Wakaba.
It configures fine, but when an image is posted, it shows up and when the pages reloads, the post disappears.

The tables were created,
captcha.pl and wakaba.pl are set to 755

I did change the wakaba.html file to index.html if it matters

>>835

What do you mean by "it shows up"?

Ok, I figure out the problem, it had to do with renaming wakaba.html

I think he meant the thread exists but the main page doesn't update due to him renaming the index page.

I've been wondering, has the issue with the spamtrap been fixed in the current Kareha 3.1.3 download?

Will there be a 3.1.4 with the fixes from the unicode issue in the other thread and anything else that's come up soon?

What is a Manager Post in Wakaba?

I have a thread on my board that is not bumping anymore but it has only like 11 image posts and maybe 33 posts. Which setting controls this sage thing?

I have a bug to report in Kareha, Where should i send it, or just post it here?

line 253 (kareha.js) if(match=/#i(.+)/.exec(document.location.toString()))
error: Test for equality (==) mistyped as assignment(=)

as well as the function get_active_stylesheet may not always return a value also Kareha.js

Firebug pulled this up, I dunno if its right or not, but i thought id let ya know anyway.

>>839

Hopefully there will be, as soon as I can find some spare time and energy to put it together. I haven't committed to a fix for that issue though because nobody who complained ever reported back if the fix worked.

>>843

That's not a test for equality, it's an assigment and a test for non-null. It's correct as written.

>>844
We've reported here that our spam stuff is all fixed up. I'm not 100% sure if it was fixed using code provided here or by our coding team. I will ask them and if I can put together the code I will post it here for you.

I'm totally lost when it come to cgi scripts. All my expertise lies in PHP and Html. Can you please tell me how to install Kareha? It would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

In Wakaba, is it possible to turn off the verify code when posting.

>>847 in the config file...

enable_captcha needs to be set to 0.

>>846

1. extract the archive.
2. edit the config.pl in either mode_message or mode image.
3. upload kareha.pl, admin.pl, wakautils.pl, captcha.pl, kareha.js, kareha.ico, spam.txt, and all the files and directories from either mode_message or mode_image to your web server.
4. create the res, thumb, and image directories.
5. make sure the directory the script is in and the res/, thumb, and image directories are writable by the web server process and kareha.pl, admin.pl, and captcha.pl are executable.
6. go to kareha.pl in your web browser.

How come if I put my name as fusianasan my name turns into my hostmask?

because that's what fusianasan does?

internets?

>>851
Yeah I didn't know it was a feature

How do I stop Wakaba from detecting duplicate pictures?

>>853
funny feature. and who is fusianasan?

I know it is not explicitly or implicitly stated anywhere as being compatible, but has anyone ever tried running Shii painter with kareha? If so, did it work? If so, how?

Oh wow.

>>856
bump because I am curious

An Oekaki Problem...

I've done everything according to instructions, and am getting a 500 and a 404 whenever I click the link to start painting. I've read the other topic, and got the palette_selfy.js file and installed it, and it still isn't working.

It's the correct applet and all as well.

The only thing I've noticed that could be wrong is that the oekaki_config.pl file I have doesn't seem to have a place for the URL that the wiki says needs to be set in this file. I've followed everything according to instructions, save for specifying the URL, because I don't know where or how to do this in the oekaki_config.pl file.

If it's in an earlier release, could someone please tell me which one?

Help would be greatly appreciated, I know when I posted my last problem 2 years ago it was fixed within a day, and that's simply outstanding support compared to everyone else out there.

Thanks much in advance, I'm really stumped on this one.

Some clarification, I found the properly set up oekaki_config.pl file in an earlier release, well, minus the hashbang, but I went ahead and added one and set the URL.

My error log says this, though:

Premature end of script headers: paint.pl,

and: File does not exist: /home/(edited by me)/(edited by me)/internal_error.html.

I have no idea why it's doing this... <_<;

Did you read the first posts in http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1109033191/? Internal Server Errors are usually not caused by the Perl scripts themselves but incorrect setup on the server.

Yes, and terribly sorry about improperly posting. It's been a while since I was here, I know it's no excuse, but it's the closest thing I have to one... <_<;

I've tried a few things to get it to work, even setting permissions differently, and have been able to get regular Wakaba boards to work just fine, the only hassle is the "premature end of script headers" thing, and I saw in an older thread that someone was having the same problem, and fixed it, but unfortunately he never said how he fixed it...

I'm not just asking for help, I'm looking for a way to fix it myself as well, by the way. I hate having to ask for help if I can do it myself, but this has me stumped. I'm a real duffer at Perl.

If I can get it to work, I'll at least post the fix for others who might be having the same problem, and if anyone has had this problem and fixed it, please share the info on what you did.

I see lots of nicely working oekaki boards out there, so I know somebody has to know how to fix this, and I'd feel better knowing I hadn't bothered the creator of the code with something petty like this for nothing.