This thread is for all your simple questions about installing and running Wakaba or Kareha, that just require quick answers. Please don't create any more new threads for issues like that, post them in here instead.
>>650
lol there was plenty of cp, especially on your upload thing.
REPORTED.
oh man this is gonna be fun. talk to you when i wake up.
I never liked that idea, because I don't think image boards should just be about endless posting of images by one person. Also, posting scans of whole volumes of stuff is pretty immoral.
>I never liked that idea, because I don't think image boards should just be about endless posting of images by one person.
As cool as you are, you shoot down a lot of decent ideas for the simple fact that you don't like it. :(
No one said anything about posting scans of whole volumes, and not having a checkbox that returns you to the thread isn't going to stop it from happening.
It works for discussion and the posting of images. I see it as a way to simply make things easier for the users. Of course, it's not exactly strenuous to scroll and click back onto a thread after you've posted to it, but you'd be surprised how often a post misses its mark.
A user can always delete their post if they miss a thread, but:
a) a good deal of users don't even know they can do that
b) it adds more bandwidth usage (however small it may be) and
c) the checkbox could circumvent misposting altogether.
That is... if the users understand it better than using the password to delete it!
In the end it's all personal preference.
By the way, we should have our sticky thread feature working by tonight and we will be reworking the moderation panel to look like the normal post interface. That's a whole different discussion though, aye?
> As cool as you are, you shoot down a lot of decent ideas for the simple fact that you don't like it. :(
Well, in my mind, that's what design is all about. Figuring out what to add, and what to leave out. The issues at hand here are the additional complexity from adding the control versus the usefulness of it. I kind of think the post form is far too complex already, and if I wasn't trying to be faithful to the original Futaba layout I would cut down on the number of inputs in it even more. I think the usefulness really is limited to mostly cases where you post multiple images to a thread, and although I don't think this should be prevented, I think it should be encouraged either, especially not at the expense of clarity.
>>654
I'm interested to know what you would remove from the post form.
The subject field is mostly useless. Few people use it, and when it's used it's often annoying. The password field is just confusing and nobody really uses it anyway. In Kareha, it's hidden and auto-generated, but I guess this could be further refined, for instance so that a post with an empty password (in case Javascript is off) can be deleted from the same IP only. I am a bit torn on the "No file" checkbox. On the one hand, it serves a purpose by warning people when they try to reply without pressing Reply, but on the other hand people still manage to do that.
If it wasn't for sage, the link field would also be mostly useless. If I was starting from scratch, replacing it with a checkbox for sage might be a better choice. Not to worry, though, I know lots of people don't like that, and I'm not about to do it.
>The subject field is mostly useless. Few people use it, and when it's used it's often annoying.
True. I was thinking that maybe having a subject field only for the first post in a thread might be better.
>deleted from the same IP
Might cause problems when proxies are used. I like the way Kareha's password is auto-generated. Is it saved as a cookie or does it go by IP? I haven't checked out the code.
>I am a bit torn on the "No file" checkbox.
Yeah.. I've never really seen a need for it.
>If I was starting from scratch, replacing it with a checkbox for sage might be a better choice
The sage checkbox is a great idea, and the people that don't like it protest it because it's not traditional. It does, however, make things a lot less confusing.
I believe that if there's enough people that want a feature then it should be added. It can't be that hard to add features that can be enabled/disabled in config.pl to keep everyone happy.
omgg!!1111111 i think all imageboards should be in japanese cause that's how it should be kawaii desu ne nyoro~n etc
> I like the way Kareha's password is auto-generated. Is it saved as a cookie or does it go by IP?
It is generated client-side by Javascript, and saved in a cookie. This means it breaks if somebody disables either Javascript or cookies, which is a bit of a problem.
I'm trying to customize my silly anonymous, and I did the following:
return cfg_expand("%G% %I%",
G => ["Abdul Shaheed","Abdulwahab","Al-basir","Anayatullah","Arshad","Bakhtiyar","Bashir","Ehteshaam","Fajyaz","Fakhr-al-din","Fareed","Fazil","Habib","Haidar","Hakeem","Hasim","Hayatullah","Jakeem","Jalal","Jannuh","Jawhar","Jibraill","Kaleem","Kamran","Kareem","Katerah","Laeeque","Maaheem","Mahmud","Mahrukh","Muammar","Muhaymin","Mujahiddin","Musad","Nadeem","Nadir","Naveed","Nisar","Nur-al-din","Osman","Qaiser","Rafiq","Rashid","Riyad","Rizwan","Roshan","Saad","Sadiq","Sadaqat","Saeed","Salah-al-din","Salim","Sarmad","Seemaab","Shabbir","Shahmeer","Tayib","Tufail","Usama","Wajahat","Waseem","Xavier","Yahya","Yasin","Yusua","Zaheer","Zaid","Zeeshan","Zuhaib","Zuhra"],
I => ["A'men","Akir","Aarez","Aasir","Aayan","Abdiwahad","Abdullah","Abyan","Akhtar","Akhyar","Aziz","Badi","Bahij","Bahadur","Bakht","Bashar","Didar","Din","Enaan","Fadil","Faizan","Faruk","Fawzi","Gamal","Ghalib","Ghassan","Gulzar","Hadja","Hafiz","Harith","Hatim","Jawwad","Jihad","Kalil","Mahad","Majid","Momin","Mudassar","Murtaza","Naim","Najir","Obaid","Ovais","Owbada","Qaiser","Qasim","Rafat","Raghid","Redouane","Rohail","Sabir","Saeed","Sahul","Salih","Samien","Sayyid","Seki","Shahwaiz","Tawil","Tayib","Thahseen","Thufail","Waleed","Yasir","Zahir","Zaid","Ziyad","Zubair"],
);But I get a 500 Internal Server Error when I try and run wakaba.pl. :( What did I mess up in there?
[Sat Mar 10 21:34:16 2007] [error] [client 75.36.85.246] failed to open log file
[Sat Mar 10 21:34:16 2007] [error] [client 75.36.85.246] fopen: Permission denied
[Sat Mar 10 21:34:16 2007] [error] [client 75.36.85.246] Premature end of script headers: wakaba.pl
[Sat Mar 10 21:34:16 2007] [error] [client 75.36.85.246] File does not exist: /home/cho0b/wtfux.org/internal_error.htmlFew questions
What is the manager post?
Can you sticky threads in wakaba?
How do you register and use tripcodes?
What about admin/mod shit like shown on 4chan?
>>664
Manager post is a way for managers to make posts (go figure.) They allow for html usage in the post.
There is no sticky feature in stock Wakaba. Mine can sticky :D
You cannot register tripcodes. There is no registration on anonymous imageboards. To quote the wakabawiki "Tripcodes are used as a proof of identity, while still remaining anonymous. If you enter your name as Name#tripcode, it will be shown as Name!3GqYIJ3Obs, the idea being that only you know the code word used to generate the tripcode."
What kind of admin/mod shit shown on 4chan? There is only a moderator interface wherein you can delete individual posts/images, delete every post made by a specific user, ban an IP, and some various other things.
nvm i fixed it.. stupid mistake. (the silly anonymous thing)
How do I disable users from being able to change the board look? Or am I just being a nazi?
Read earlier posts in the thread.
>>635
Could you please list for those of us more dense specifically how to fix this?
>>672
Deleted admin bar div from futaba_style.pl, added allowed html to config.pl and still get the error. Does it make a difference if I'm using wakaba 3.0.7 (forgot to mention it last post.)
I'm having a weird problem.
Sometimes Wakaba goes into a state where no one can post images - the server just hangs indefinitely if this is tried. However, posting comments is never a problem.
One solution for this bug, when it happens, is to simply overwrite wakaba.pl with a clean copy. Could it be that wakaba.pl is getting corrupted somehow?
That seems unlikely, corruption would be a fairly severe problem and it would most likely cause actual errors. I wonder if you're not running some kind of Apache module that is doing something too clever for its own good, and that resets itself when the timestamp on the script file updates. You could try just touching the file to update the timestamp and see if that also helps.
I am running Apache, but haven't installed any weird modules. Could have some pre-installed though. I'll lok into that, and maybe just set up a cron job to touch the file from time to time. Guess it can't hurt. Thanks.
>>674
Glad I ran it on a test board first haha. (Actually doing so didn't change anything anyhow, but whatever lol.)
A secondary question though. Posts often don't show up due to wakaba.html not refreshing. What's the best way to force a refresh?
>>678
Ignore second question, thought I searched the whole thread but didn't.
WAHa, would you be interested in possibly retooling the existing Wakaba codebase for an anon-only 2ch variation with tagging, comment ratings, searching, sorting and an original layout?
>>681
I'm guessing the "tagging" part set off your prehensile anti-Web 2.0 sense, eh?
>>682
i was loling at your entire request. unless you plan on offering some sort of payment to Waha then I'd say your request isn't gonna be fulfilled. maybe you should make one yourself?
>>683
I'm only proposing it if he has any latent interest in developing such a project in his free time. It's not like I'm storming through the door and demanding that he do it.
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Well, the idea has run through my head once or twice, but I've dismissed it in the past due to a lack of time for it, and I have even less of that now, so it is not likely.
Also, my inability to figure out a good set of basic mechanics that would not degenerate into groupthink and popularity contests has also prevented me from bothering furhter with the idea. Stuff like "comment ratings" especially are horrible.
The web 2.0 world is already filled with these horrible failures of community building, and I have no wish to add to their numbers.
> that would not degenerate into groupthink and popularity contests
but that's what web 2.0 is all about!
Perhaps I'll wait for the 2.1 update.
While I agree that a WEB 2.0 feature rich version of Wakaba would be awesome, I can understand that not enough administrators in the community would appreciate it like the few of us would.
Why the square and two triangles links displays with slightly diffent shape in Firefox? The square particularly is even smaller in size.
Strange that I browsed similar forums and all of them uses the same chars (■, ▲ and ▼) and all display ok in any browser.
It is a mystery.
Ok I found why. Needs just to set a mona font for these links styles.
>>693
Or you could use a font with decent unicode coverage as your default font...
I'd suggest the DejaVu fonts (Sans, Serif, and Mono Sans). They're free and, unlike Mona, actually look pretty nice.
>>270 where is this exact section of the function? And what would be put in to make it forward to the post?
http://lulz.net/furi/wakaba.html
We just started using our new wakaba.pl and futaba.pl files. We now have working sticky threads and a reworked management panel.
The management panel is now paged and made to look more like the actual main board.
There is also a janitor login area. Janitors cannot ban users or make threads sticky/unsticky. They can only delete files/posts.
(8 just braggggggging :X
>>696
you know you're making a pretty convincing argument that stickies are a bad thing, right?
>>697
1) Please give information as to how I am doing that.
2) Like it matters. No one else thought it was a good idea so we added it ourselves.
3) you know you're making a pretty convincing argument that stickies are a good thing, right?
>>698
1) furries.
2) FURRIES.
3) FURRIES.
now go die in a fire kthxbai
>>699
lol, the fact that we are testing all the features you hate with a niche that you hate is.. bad?
when we finish bug testing and tweaking our addons i will add them to our main boards/site. lulz.net is both our testing area and our trolling ground. if you do not see the obvious bonuses to controlling a furry community while not being a furry yourself, then you are blinded by your own e-peen.
>>701
It doesn't matter. Your opinion has no reflection on our decisions.
If you would like to read up on the arguments for and against sticky threads, then just screen through some of the threads on this board. You'll find people giving obvious reasons why sticky threads would be helpful and then you'll find other people responding with "That's stupid. You're stupid. Stickies are blasphemy and no one will use them in my presence!"
Oh, and don't forget the ever popular "If you have something so important that every user must see it, then add it to the rules.html (and then reupload the .html file and then rebuild thread caches after waiting a minute for the management panel to load because your board has 20 pages of huge threads.)"
To which someone would reply "But what if I don't want to make my post form look bogged down and retarded? Perhaps there is a lot of information I need to pass on to the users and simply making a thread (that can be collapsed forever if you wish) would be the easiest route."
I will say this: It is a matter of opinion, and it just so happens that we believe sticky threads are helpful. The best part about a feature is you don't have to use it but you can if you want to.
The disadvantage of this form of forum is that I know more about this than you do, and making that post more than one paragraph is useless information.
It sounds like an opportunity for another field that only shows on front pages. Also, your SQL server is really slow.
>>703
I spread it all out real neat like just for you.
I even left cute little "in short" messages like this:
>>I will say this: It is a matter of opinion, and it just so happens that we believe sticky threads are helpful. The best part about a feature is you don't have to use it but you can if you want to.
p.s. gj on knowing more than me about anonymous imageboards.. i guess. did you get a PHD on japanese subculture or something?
It was awarded by the university of kamiyama mangetu-chan.
Im installing a wakaba board, and its going just fine. the only problem is the verification code section doesnt go away.
I have set use constant ENABLE_CAPTCHA => 0; but its still there. I deleted my browser cache, still there. any suggestions on how to get rid of the verification section beyond this?
>>707
did you rebuild caches after making the change? go into your moderation panel and click the "rebuild cache" link.
Alright, im a dork, I uploaded the wakaba.pl file again before doing the captcha change and forgot to set its CHMOD to 755.
this is probably a really, really stupid question, and I'm sorry if it's been asked and answered multiple times, but I'm growing frustrated. I'm using PHPMyAdmin, and I've created the database, and every time I try to upload the config.php file, it says that I'm not using proper syntax, but I've tried editing it every way I know how. Does anyone have an idea as to what's going on?
> every time I try to upload the config.php file, it says that I'm not using proper syntax,
what is "it"?
Also, there is no "config.php" file.
Hey, I've installed wakaba but I'm having trouble getting it running. It first refused to run at all and output the wakaba.pl file as ascii text. Changing the extension to .cgi fixed that. Now all the pages load, but it seems like it doesn't want to write to the database. It is connecting fine and is able to create new tables as after running it for the first time (through sh, mind you) it created the wakaba_admin, wakaba_comments and wakaba_proxy tables. No posts can be made, however, as no rows are ever inserted into the db. The SQL interface in the management panel can successfully exec commands on the db, however. I'm stumped...
You're not supposed to run it through sh, that creates broken HTML. Manually go to the admin page and rebuild caches.
>>716
Already done that, several times. It rebuilds fine, but still can never enter new posts into the database.
Are you entirely sure you're doing that the right way? Because it's showing every sign of not being done.
Note that on the front page, the "Manage" link goes to "http://www.reknet.ca/img/?task=admin", but if you go to the right location by hand, it is "http://www.reknet.ca/img/wakaba.cgi?task=admin" as it should be. This means that the script couldn't find its SCRIPT_NAME variable when it built the pages, but that it can find it when you access it through the web.
Hi there, i tried to install Wakaba 3.0.7 on FreeBSD with Apache 1.3.x
I don't get an error 500, Perl execute and all but it seems unable to connect to mysql o_O (says fetch error)
If i go with SQLite, then i get a 500 error + this log from apache:
[Fri Mar 30 00:59:00 2007] config.pl: Constant subroutine main::CONVERT_COMMAND redefined at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/constant.pm line 103.
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so.8: Undefined symbol "pthread_create"
[Fri Mar 30 00:59:00 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.90] Premature end of script headers: /home/www/xchan/wakaba.pl
Any ideas?
>>718
Thanks, I wiped the caches, tooled the .htaccess (used cgi-script instead of cgi-handler, now .pl works, this on apache 2.0.54) and re-ran through a browser. Works now, thanks.
Yes. The server is on another (working) internal host.
The client is also installed.
>>721
me again. it is working, but the file size limit seems to be wrong. It won't allow any file, of any type, that is over 1 mb.
I've tried setting MAX_MEGABYTES as high as 100, but it didn't change anything
>>724
I'll check, but I'm pretty certain it's not. Especially since the error returned is a wakaba page, not an apache error.
>>723
MAX_MEGABYTES sets the maximum space that the board will take up in TOTAL space. You want to edit MAX_KB to change the maximum allowed size for files.
>>724
You are right, dunno why just recompiled without thread support and now works like a charm o_O Still dunno why it won't work with mysql but whatever, as long as posts are working i don't mind.
Thanks!
Oh, yes, you are right. I was not paying attention.
Ok so, (im 728, 719)
SQLite work perfectly. I reinstalled the perl mysql module just to make sure but the same error still trigger:
[Fri Mar 30 16:15:46 2007] wakaba.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at wakaba.pl line 1835, <FILE> line 3.
Wakaba fails to make the tables in the database. The installed mysql client is version 5 connecting to a v4.1 server (and this is working with a php script).
Any idea?
>>730
Ah im a moron X_X didnt install the right perl module.
sorry to have taken your time.
>>152
Was a solution for this ever found? Because not even deleting the cookie is working for me.
There's really no way to solve an unreproducible problem, so no. For you, though, it sounds like you might be stuck behind a buggy transparent proxy.
hi, i'm trying install kareha, and i get this error:
[Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] templates.pl: [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] templates.pl: [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] wakautils.pl: Too many arguments for open at wakautils.pl line 500, near "$cachefile) # get modified date and cache contents [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] templates.pl: [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] templates.pl: [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] wakautils.pl: " [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] templates.pl: [Fri Apr 6 19:18:52 2007] templates.pl: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at templates.pl line 3. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at kareha.cgi line 14.
any idea?
I'm trying to use FORCED_ANON => 0 on my wakaba but the changes don't seem to go through. Is this setting supposed to remove the name field and set all future posts to Anonymous or not show the name field at all? That is exactly what i want to do but so far it's not working well.
Nevermind, it works now, i had it on 0 for some reason.
That error seems messed up and unreadable. Also, it's very confusing. Are you using some ancient version of Perl or something? Or did the files get messed up?
There's a minor problem with Wakaba's strikeout code in do_spans(). Malicious poster can create constructs like <!--0-<del>->, which may block others from viewing the board.
Patch (probably kinda ugly, but...): http://www.pastebin.cz/show/668
I've always said there should be a function to rebuild all the html files wakaba has output, the threads. Is that what rebuild cache does? I'm afraid to try it on my live board.
I'm using kareha now which i find is really nice but i've made some modifications to make it fit into the design of my webpage and pretty much all of this fails because kareha calls kareha.pl directly when showing threads. If it were to just call res/thread-id.shtml as the file is called all would be well for me. How can i make it do this?
I'm running it on a university server that has silly restrictions that say that the the scripts have to be .cgi, they have to be not writable by anyone by the owner, and cannot set uid or gid.
I had to change kareha.pl to kareha.cgi, and I did change the name in the source files. I tried the same thing again with a fresh install, and I got the same error.
And it's running perl 5.8.7 on linux.
Thanks.
I had to change kareha.pl to kareha.cgi, and I did change the name in the source files.
which files? the only one i see 'kareha.pl' in is admin.pl...
if you changed anything anywhere else, that's probably what caused the problem.
I'm sorry if I didn't lurked enough, though I tried. But I'm almost complete noob and I need some help installing Kareha.
I gave up on trying to make kareha ssi and just run it as is. I've translated the template file to swedish though if anyone cares i have a link to it here.
http://swehack.se/pub/code/template_se.pls
Swedish characters are corrupted somewhere in kareha.pl when building cache. I'll try and find out where but it would be great if someone with more knowledge of the script could fix it. Example below.
> Swedish characters are corrupted somewhere in kareha.pl when building cache. I'll try and find out where but it would be great if someone with more knowledge of the script could fix it. Example below.
your kareha.pl is sending utf-8 pages as iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8. setting the encoding to utf-8 causes the page you linked to to display correctly. i'm guessing you changed CHARSET in config.pl to iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8. if you did, all you need to do to fix the problem is just change it back (or just comment out that line, as utf-8 is the default).