How do I... (things from 4chan) (111, permasaged)

40 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-01 16:01 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Post ranges and paging deal with it just fine.

No, not if new users or users who haven't read the thread yet reload the entire thread.

> What happens if more than one new thread is started?

One gets used and the other one does not.

> You figured it out by reading what it says?

No, I just saw what happened as I was lurking. People who do not have the patience to lurk do not need to know these things immediately either, so it doesn't really matter.

> Aging threads does not always save them from the reaper (e.g. when oldest threads are deleted instead of the furthest back).

I don't even know which software you are refering here to, but I guess you have jumped to Wakaba now. I was talking about Kareha/2chstyle forum software. So I take your comment here as irrelevant.

> Yeah, I'll just ignore that "Anonymous" fellow with ID:Heaven.

What are you, trolling? Or do you just not know how even Kareha works?
Oh wait, don't answer that one:

> Try looking for the forest instead of the trees next time.

Yeah, trolling. Sorry about taking you seriously.

> If the thought of a moderator stickying something was abhorrent because it was not the users deciding what threads are important why allow the system to decide which threads should die?

It isn't the thought of teh evil moderator swinging his mighty modstick that is abhorrent but that one single user or a minority of users get to decide frontpage content.
I agree that user participation should be the most important principle but that is already achieved with age and sage in regards to bumping or not bumping threads. Voting systems complicate the whole matter and are easy to abuse by minorities who can set up bots for that again.

What would voting systems help? Keep threads up more accurately to user wishes? Doubt that, they could age all they want (although I know of a lot of popular thread series on 2ch that chronically get saged to keep them out of troll sight) and if the thread ends just start a new one. Just start a new one, there is nothing complicated or counter-intuitive about that, while voting would just complicate the matter and add no real benefit.

Saying that you want "the users" to control the board and "not the system" is also a bit naïve since you will always have to rely on both.

Also, we are again mixing Futaba/Futallaby/Wakaba style imgboards and Kareha/0ch style messageboards. Threads in the former don't close (except in Snacks' Futallaby hack, I think, moderators can close threads), they just get purged eventually and I think that's just how imgboards should work: New content in, old content out.

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