OpenID (20)

1 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-05 15:54 ID:5xkPABUm [Del]

Well, I already have too many projects I work on, and nowhere near enough time to put out some decent updates of Wakaba and Kareha, but I was still intrigued by this:

It's a distributed identity system for blogs and such. It would work just as well with message boards (which we all know are superior, of course). Now, the question is, would it be worth the work to implement this in Wakaba and Kareha? Ideologically speaking, it's anti-anonymous but also anti-registration, so I am not sure where I stand on the issue.

So speak up!

2 Name: lolocaust 2005-07-05 16:47 ID:/CbSPrht [Del]

what is this shit

3 Name: lolocaust 2005-07-05 16:48 ID:/CbSPrht [Del]

also: why does my cookie always turn me into "lolocaust" now?

4 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-05 16:56 ID:5xkPABUm [Del]

It's a decentralized identity system. It couples an identity server to an URL, so that you can use the URL as your identity, and the server (which can be changed around as you like) authorizes you with the board you post on.

Essentially, I could set up to be my identity, and add a few tags to it to use my Livejournal account as an identity server, and when I post somewhere that supports OpenID, I give my URL, and the script authorizes against Livejournal's servers to figure out that I really am the person who controls

I haven't looked too closely over the details of how this works under the hood, yet.

It servers pretty much the exact same purpose as tripcodes, except for being more secure, more cumbersome, and more descriptive (an URL is easier to understand than a DES hash).

5 Name: apple 2005-07-05 17:25 ID:vGLpeUpW [Del]

It's not really entirely anti-registration. It's just a method to avoid registration at every blog/board/site you visit by using just one id/registeration.

Considering that Kareha and Wakaba is about staying anonymous (well, it's not all that, but I'm just saying it for now), it wouldn't help if you "tag" yourself with an ID.

6 Name: lolocaust 2005-07-06 08:37 ID:QBEF+R6g [Del]


I got that!

I still would like to know what this is supposed to be good for.

If this is just about the transparency of property relationships, then go for it.

7 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-06 08:42 ID:P2+dWu3S [Del]

Looks to me like it's supposed to be good for pretty much the same thing tripcodes are. Proving your identity across multiple sites without having to create accounts.

8 Name: lolocaust 2005-07-06 14:33 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Proving your identity across multiple sites without having to create accounts.

But isn't the initial site from which you "span" your identity and prove what belongs to you an account of sorts?

9 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-06 17:36 ID:5xkPABUm [Del]

Yes, depending. It can be any number of things - you can apparently use your LiveJournal account, or you can run your own identity server.

You can also change which identity server that your URL uses for authentication at any point.

10 Name: shii 2005-07-07 23:35 ID:X6ClBh68 [Del]

This would be a nice alternative to tripcodes, which are the single most insecure way of verifying an identity.

11 Name: drunk 2005-07-08 17:32 ID:wjZZyCn8 [Del]

Intersting concept. Seems like a pain to set up for people outside of the blogosphere, though.

BTW, what's wrong with the names? Current one's drunk.

12 Name: shii 2005-07-08 18:35 ID:X6ClBh68 [Del]

As for that, >>11, you just need to set up a patch for OpenID to some forum software.

13 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-08 19:14 ID:5xkPABUm [Del]

Well, LiveJournal runs an OpenID server already, so you can just register an account there if you want an identity. I'm sure more options will be available if this catches on.

Also, maybe it's "drunk" because you posted drunk in the drunk thread?

14 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-07-08 21:09 ID:Heaven [Del]


Hmm, perhaps.

15 Name: stupidfuckingcookie 2005-07-09 03:34 ID:Heaven [Del]

The cookies are definitively fucked up on here.

16 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-09 05:48 ID:5xkPABUm [Del]

I need to fix that cookie reading code I stole, but I am lazy!

17 Name: stupidfuckingcookie 2005-07-09 08:13 ID:Heaven [Del]

me too!

18 Name: Anonymous : 2006-10-19 17:47 ID:sAvEcImi [Del]

More than a year later:

I think this would be a cool feature to have as an option. It would be different from a 2ch-style board, but equally valid and probably better in some situations.

19 Name: Anonymous : 2007-03-07 13:31 ID:sAvEcImi [Del]

WAHa, two questions:

  1. Do you expect to ever add OpenID consumer support?
  2. If not, would you hypothetically accept a well-written patch to do it?

...because I think this would be a really cool feature.

20 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2007-03-07 15:18 ID:Heaven [Del]

I don't think I will, but if you can make a patch that does not add any significant external dependencies (or at least, gracefully handles them not being available by disabling itself), I might very well add it.

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