Threads not showing up at first (Wakaba) (25)

1 Name: Eleo 2005-07-02 19:14 ID:m4X/I0aF [Del]

I and a lot of other users have noticed that when they make a thread or make a reply they don't show up immediately; they have to reload the page in order for the post to appear. I'm guessing this problem has been stated before and there's a solution to it.

2 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-07-02 23:08 ID:UOwAbS3y [Del]

It's to do with the .htaccess file you should have in your root directory. an example one comes with the wakaba distro, upload it, rename it from example.htaccess to .htaccess, and that's it!

Is this for your boards or iichan?

3 Name: Eleo 2005-07-02 23:15 ID:m4X/I0aF [Del]

That's already been done, actually.

4 Name: Eleo 2005-07-02 23:15 ID:m4X/I0aF [Del]

And yes, this is my own board

5 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-03 05:15 ID:RGq528FA [Del]


If your server doesn't have mod_header loaded, it won't work, sadly. You can try adding some stuff to the HTML template in instead. I haven't done this in the default version because I've heard it can cause some trouble with IE (IE might not cache the thumbnails, which increases the bandwidth load).

Open up, find the HTML header (serach for <head>), and add:

<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />

6 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-07-03 05:17 ID:iwsUu5U6 [Del]

Sometimes even the additional header lines can't help. If all the expires/pragma/cache-control did nothing, you're probably SOL. It's not due to wakaba but rather a non-compliant httpd or transparent caching proxy.

BTW, your board works just fine for me.

7 Name: Eleo 2005-07-03 08:56 ID:m4X/I0aF [Del]

Generally it does, but sometimes it just doesn't. Really doesn't make a whole lot of sense in that way.

Is there any way for me to check if my server has mod_header? What is that, anyway?

8 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-03 18:29 ID:RGq528FA [Del]

mod_header is a built-in Apache module for changing HTTP headers. Problem is, not all hosts load it, even though it's installed by default.

9 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-07-04 08:16 ID:kQIYTy0b [Del]

IIRC, if your server doesn't have mod_header, and you have "Header add"s in the .htaccess, you'll be getting 500s.

You can always try something like ethereal to look at packets the server returns.

10 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-04 08:37 ID:712UVdF0 [Del]


The default .htaccess file is insulated by IfModule statements, so you don't get errors from it.

You can remove the IfModule:s to force it to always try, which will cause 500:s if mod_header isn't loaded.

11 Name: Eleo 2005-07-04 09:12 ID:m4X/I0aF [Del]

All of this went over my head.

12 Name: Eleo 2005-07-04 09:48 ID:m4X/I0aF [Del]

Oh I get it.

Yup, 500 error.

13 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-04 09:50 ID:RGq528FA [Del]

Right then. Complain to your provider, or try doing >>5.

14 Name: Eleo 2005-07-04 18:40 ID:w3aq/yUU [Del]

Or maybe someone could name a webhost that doesn't suck ass? That way I can be sure it works!

15 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-07-04 21:02 ID:UOwAbS3y [Del]

lots of people here use dreamhost, seems to be pretty good.

16 Name: Eleo 2005-07-05 00:14 ID:w3aq/yUU [Del]

Thanks dude. Those deals are actually pretty damn decent.

17 Name: Eleo 2005-07-05 00:16 ID:w3aq/yUU [Del]

Except for setup fee >:(


18 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-07-05 08:17 ID:BPRmVsQk [Del]

If you're not going to be using large amounts of bandwidth, I heartily recommend Site5.

19 Name: Eleo 2005-07-05 12:52 ID:TrGt+ZaD [Del]

Adult content not allowed! Owned.

20 Name: Eleo 2005-07-05 13:54 ID:TrGt+ZaD [Del]

Nevermind, I whined to web admins and got mod_header (which I was told is an apache module?) installed. Seems like all is good again. Thanks to everyone for their help.

21 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-05 15:51 ID:RGq528FA [Del]

Big win!

22 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-07-06 13:40 ID:Heaven [Del]

where are you hosting?

23 Name: Eleo 2005-07-07 13:41 ID:Nnf7SfMk [Del]


I'm thinking of switching to, though. Their hosting looks like more bang for the buck.

I had the intention of switching but ivaluehost fixed mod_header fast enough so that it was unnecessary. Until my bandwidth gets blown up I have no reason to switch hosting quite yet.

24 Name: Furi!EuK0M02kkg 2005-07-11 04:37 ID:Heaven [Del]

What are your criteria for hosts? Budget? Space?
Meidokon costs me US$10 a month, and I'm very happy with it. Can't say I know how it performs under real load, though, but for something small I can certainly recommend it. I believe it's also had much praise for bigger stuff as well.

25 Name: Eleo 2005-07-11 09:37 ID:Dw7onj2H [Del]

Since my site is pretty small now, I'm just going for the cheapest possible that isn't complete crap. Right now I have 500MB of space and 10GB bandwidth, and it's been adequate and probably will be for a while. I get this at $5/mo.

For $10/mo I could get hosted at and get 1GB of space, 50GB transfer, unlimited pop3 e-mail accounts, unlimited subdomains, unlimited MySQL databases, unlimited FTP accounts. This is a vastly superior service for an extra five dollars. The setup fee is $15.

Setup fees are usually a big turn-off. $15 is acceptable but some hosts ask for a lot more, so much that you might as well sign up for a year's worth of hosting (which I'm sure is the idea.)

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