wakabazero dies (14)

1 Name: .tekrox 2004-11-10 00:07 ID:Heaven [Del]

hmm, trying to install wakabazero on some webspace at my ISP (Supports php and perl (thru cgi) - but no mysql databases) and it's giving some evil errors

Software error:

Can't locate MIME/Base64.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int /usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/sun4-solaris-64int /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/perl5/site_perl /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.6.1/sun4-solaris-64int /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.6.1 /usr/perl5/vendor_perl .) at wakaba.pl line 8.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at wakaba.pl line 8.

(you can obviously see the server is running Solaris)

Any Ideas? or should I give up and use Futallaby with a MySQL Database on my machine

2 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-10 00:44 ID:kWJiZ8wA [Del]

Both Wakaba Zero and Kareha make extensive use of Perl 5.8 features, and your ISP apparently only has Perl 5.6. The best you can do is ask them to upgrade, or run the full Wakaba which runs on older Perl versions.

3 Name: .tekrox 2004-11-10 04:36 ID:Heaven [Del]

thanks waha,

I'm waiting for my ISP to get back to me on wether perl can(will) be upgraded or not; If not how much bandwidth would an average board on Wakachan use for the Database?

4 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2004-11-10 05:24 ID:xPwsE51A [Del]

Databases don't really use bandwidth, as they're typically stored on the same computer (or computer cluster) on which the web server is stored. On the odd chance this isn't the case, you still shouldn't worry, as Wakaba doesn't really touch its database much; only when someone makes (or deletes) a post, pretty much.

If you meant "disk space" instead of "bandwidth," it's also not much. Wakaba doesn't store the pictures themselves in the database; just the information on each post (poster, poster's tripcode, comment, picture filename, etc). Since it's all just text, it doesn't take up much space. πchan's database takes up less than 256K.

5 Name: .tekrox 2004-11-10 07:48 ID:Heaven [Del]

I'm asking more becuase my ISP doesn't give out "free" mysql databases; so I was going to host the database on my server here. my Internet connection has 256kbps upstream - would that be enough? (all of the perl scripts, images, etc would be on the isp's server making it rocket fast for images, and the site itself - but if 256kbps is too slow for a DB link then the site would be slow (bar the images))

6 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2004-11-10 09:58 ID:xPwsE51A [Del]

I'm going to go on a limb and say that, yes, hosting it from your own machine will work, because, again, I don't think Wakaba touches the database all that often (!WAHa might need to correct me on this), so the only time folks would notice a bit of slowness compared to if the DB were hosted along with the site would be when they post, which happens relatively rarely compared to just browsing.

Another option might be to wait for Ochiba to (finally) be released. That will use SQLite, which doesn't require a database server like MySQL does. However, Ochiba requires PHP 5, and if your ISP doesn't have an up-to-date version of Perl, they might be behind on PHP as well...

But perhaps the best thing to do would be to go ahead and plunk down the ca$h for a web hosting company. May I offer some suggestions?

7 Name: .tekrox 2004-11-10 13:23 ID:Heaven [Del]

after doing some investigation it looks as if no matter how I try iy i'm not going to get wakaba or futallby on the server *_* my isp hasn't responded to the perl upgrade requuest yet; and it seems they havent installed any modules for php or perl to connect to a mysql database.

I have found a few cheap hosting company's though; if anyone has any ideas or any decent (and cheap!) hosting company's down it would be great ^_^ (All of this was to start a board and add it to wakachan :)

8 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-10 15:22 ID:+yVRdIig [Del]

Albright is correct that Wakaba only hits the database when posting or deleting (or using the admin interface). Normal page views all use static HTML pages.

Also, if your ISP doesn't have mysql modules it probably doesn't have the SQLite module either, which would be a very nice alternative to mysql that doesn't need a database server at all. If you have shell access to the server, you may be able to get extra modules running, but that's a bit of a pain in the ass.

9 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2004-11-10 16:50 ID:xPwsE51A [Del]

Right now, πchan is on a DreamHost server, because they had a crazynuts deal; a year of service with generous bandwidth and an included domain name for less than ten bucks. I don't know if it's still going, but if it is, take advantage of it. I already typed up the details elsewhere, so allow me to link instead of retyping it all here:
The database thing is still a pain, but less so after I figured out that you can run Wakaba with all image boards using one database instead of one database per board. (I'm such a moron.) Also, if you want pr0n on your board, that seems to be cool with DreamHost. I haven't had to deal with their tech support yet, so I don't know how that goes.

The other company which I've been hosting with for years is Dathorn. Their packages are all very attractive, and any time I've had to work with tech support has been a pleasant experience so far as working with tech support goes. They don't allow pr0n.
Or, if you would be so kind as to give me a referral credit:

Hope this helps.

10 Name: Albright!LC/IWhc3yc 2004-11-10 17:14 ID:Zo4zJiuw [Del]

>The database thing is still a pain,

By this comment I was referring to the issue I mention in that linked thread, not the issues you're having in this one... in case that was confusing you.

11 Name: h-cube!h3/bEAAN16!!gDWGntLS 2004-11-11 12:42 ID:6UcaifIw [Del]

>However, Ochiba requires PHP 5

Actually, PHP5, with sqlite support builtin by default, is convenient, but it works on PHP4 as long as you get the extension for sqlite. notchan is running on PHP4, for example.

>if your ISP doesn't have mysql modules it probably doesn't have the SQLite module either

Sadly, I have to agree with WAHa's assessment on this. At least it's possible to upload the required files local to your account and get it working (cf installing MySQL without root access and risking the wrath of your hoster)

12 Name: .tekrox 2004-11-14 00:08 ID:Heaven [Del]

Actually I found a quite nice host,
just getting some money together with friends;
xtreme-host; generous storage and "unlimited bandwidth" for $220 a year :D (AUD$~300)

13 Name: !TYA7I27too 2005-01-10 22:27 ID:Heaven [Del]


14 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-26 18:30 ID:Heaven [Del]

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