Having changed it's name to 'kusaba' with the release of version 1.0, it really has "fucked itself up the wrong 'un", so to speak.
It has evolved from a poor imageboard script to a tragic 4chan emulator.
Nice job with the blotter there, Trev...
>>53
Yes, well we have heavily modified our wakaba and everything works fine.
This thread says a lot about trevorsaba's userbase in so few words...
>>52
I wrote that in 30 minutes when I was overtired and it was replaced by completely working code a week later when the comedy of it wore off. TMYK.
>>57
Oh yeah and smart administrators put horrible code into use. Okay.
>>59
Um... a testing and development environment separate from the public site?
>>61
Try not to be a jerk to people just because they might be trolling. For that sort of question a straight answer could enlighten someone asking seriously, but ignoring or smartass comments helps to perpetuate poor administration.
>>65
Stop fagging the board up with your attempts to point out that you're a troll. I don't give a damn.
>>58
We have a specific board for testing new code, idiot. I just deployed the broken-ass stickies as they were because it amused most of the potheads on the site.
/weed/ was having a ball with it. When we put out the fixed stickies i had tons of people begging me to put the broken ones back.
>>68
Whoa calm down there Buzz Killington.
Somebody's on the rag.
Anyway, I remember being in your IRC and whatnot when all this rolled out.
I didn't realize how much seemingly intelligent people can be manipulated by idiots.
These days it's hard to tell who the idiots are!
hi guys, thought you might be interested to know what else tj9991's been up to:
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Mudkip
>>74
It's on his web sight, http://tj9991.com
>>76
Honestly, I was bored the other day and thought "I wonder what tj9991 has been up to?" and actually clicked it. Not much is the answer.
Wakaba was daunting at first, especially since I hadn't touched Perl in some time before looking through it. I remember working through the references to arrays filled with references to hashes that are handed from subroutine to subroutine. If Wakaba were any larger, I would have given up.
Wakaba gets away with this structure because it isn't trying to be an extensible imageboard framework or a feature-perfect clone of another board. In my opinion, this is a feature. It's a good balance between a simple implementation and a simple user experience. If you understand tripcodes, age, and sage, you're set. Want to keep track of a thread? Simply bookmark it. Want to make your top-of-page rules look like posts? Just insert the appropriate HTML. I'm not against message boards with new features, but every time I see a stock Wakaba installation, I'm reminded of why I liked to post on such boards in the first place.
>>79
2chan is the obvious exception to "another board," of course...
>>79
Makes a good point. Wakaba's code is easy to read, and it doesn't take a half an hour to figure out what does what.
Hell, I've been messing around with a souped up version of wakaba (using some horrid web 2.0 additions. Lightbox for images anybody? Or modularizing futaba_style.pl so that differernt bits of code don't have to be in one file and can be simply edited?) and it amazes me how easy it is to add/remove things with the <if></if>s and the include{.
>>79
I especially like the simplicity of the user experience. I've given up completely on regular forums since they are incredibly bloated monstrosities that attempt to include every feature they can think of, to the point that actual post contents are overwhelmed by lots of superfluous images (remember spacer.gif?), postcounts, user sigs, etc. There's tons of code server-side to manage all that, too. These text boards are awesome compared to them.
This thread really tempts me to take Wakaba and hack all the Something Awful crap moot shoved into futallaby like stickies, BBCode, noko and stuff from the 4chon extension in.
I'd call it Wakaba-AIDS (Automatic Imageboard Destruction System). It's not like I condone any of those features, but WAHa will never do it and let's be honest, what would you prefer, people making shitty 4chan clones using fucking Trevorchan or people making shitty 4chan clones using a decent software?
I know, I know. The obvious answer is that you don't want stupid 4chan clones to begin with. But let's face it, people don't take a no for an answer and they're all going to turn to Trevorchan/Kusaba for their "I want to be the little moot" needs, thereby filling the Internet with that filled with security holes PHP crap.
Shitty 4chan clones do not suck because of the technology behind them, but because they are shitty 4chan clones. Megachan uses Kusuba and is pretty cool, in my opinion.
>>84
let me guess, you are from megachan? :) shut up faggot. nobody cares.
The software a website uses definitely has an impact on its shit factor. Kusaba adds at least 2,000 to any sites shit count. This is a documented fact.
>>85
Have you looked at megachan? I suggest you browse it a little.
I think the main reason it isn't complete trash is it doesn't have a /b/ or an /i/. Mostly the latter, as iichan's /b/ hasn't been too much of an idiot magnet except when 4chan goes down, but I think the existence of those two boards (or lack thereof) has a lot to do with the overall quality of the site, more so than what software it's running. The fact that the whole site is actively moderated has a lot to do with it as well.
Your argument is akin to the "oh, that site sucks because it uses (insert web server name here)" absurdity that I've also seen. It has no practical bearing on anything, and any site is only as good as the people who run it regardless of the software.
> The fact that the whole site is actively moderated has a lot to do with it as well.
That's a big turn-off for many channers, Also, what's wrong with oekaki?
Exactly. It's a turn-off for all the people who shit up the board, leaving the civilized posters.
Who said anything about oekaki?
>>86
Yeah.. I spent a few minutes browsing megachan and that was all it took to realize that it's just another niche faggot imageboard. Just because it has some boards that most people don't care about doesn't mean that it's civilized and above the rest. It's just another slow moving imageboard site to tack on to the endless list of slow moving imageboard sites.
Stop trying to fight for your precious megachan. It sucks. It's not because of Kusaba (but that doesn't help,) it's not because of the posters, and it's not because of the web server it's on.. It sucks because it is catering to some anime fanservice homosexuals.
> It sucks because it is catering to some anime fanservice homosexuals.
Show me an image board which doesn't. But at least you think megachan sucks for some reason other than it's software.
The sheer fact that you mentioned "catering to some anime fanservice homosexuals" shows that you have not actually looked at the site at all. But then, you're too busy jacking off your dad to care.
> But at least you think megachan sucks for some reason other than it's software.
Ignoring the hilarious it's/its mistake, all boards using Trevorchan suck. One word, the forced implementation of shitty 4chan features. Thread over.
>>94
Actually you can easily disable all of that stuff in the board configuration - not that anyone does, but if you turn off javascript it hides it all. (but you don't get the delete post checkboxes either, because they're inserted with document.write() for some damn reason.)
But I agree, most of those features are pretty brain-damaged, not to mention horribly implemented.
> meant to be - a 2chan imageboard minus the 4chan members.
It's pretty obvious it's meant to be a 4chan imageboard.
Perhaps the problem is that many people hate it when people around them willingly use inferior software. From a quality standpoint it would be fair imo to say Wakaba is objectively better than Kusaba, and for that reason I think a lot of people are pissed that Kusaba seems to enjoy any measure of popularity. But Kusaba provides features Wakaba does not, and even though it may implement them in a very half-assed way, most people just don't care.
I don't think it's a problem either, but I can understand those who seem frustrated at Kusaba. It's the same frustration I feel sometimes when I try to convince an IE6 user to switch to Firefox or Opera or even a new version of IE, and they just don't care. But then I relax and tell myself it's all good. :)
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