Some terrible raid-centric imageboard that recently gained some popularity due to a flavor of the month "cause" just struck a deal of some sorts with 2ch. I don't know how it happened or what's coming next but this is big.
Pic related: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Vw4g6uK4CMNR.png
yeah, this site totally won't be gone in 3 months like every other "lololol let's replace 4chan with <number>chan.<cc tld>" site.
>>2
That's exactly how I felt until today. Obviously something's up. I'll be paying attention at the very least.
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/514246193916809216
Anyone watch the stream they advertised? There are few details right now and it all seems quite strange.
But 2ch is a shit. Who cares about their business deals with some epic 4chan clone. And it might just be, you know, trolling.
Also
http://echo-news.net/en/japans-biggest-site-2channel-cyber-attacked-by-hiroyuki
>But credibility of this story line is strongly supported by the 2ch.net’s mass data leakage in 2013. At that time, 40000 person’s private data and comment logs spilled out with their private data; full name, address, phone number, e-mail address credit card number with security code.
>And after more than 1 month, it was made clear that 2ch has been selling data since 2000, just next year it had started.
>>5
Personal opinions about either site aside, this -is- happening (current manager of 2ch confirmed it), and it is huge news. I already made my disdain clear for the site's origins. I've been around long enough to see countless sites start the same way and fade away half a year later when everyone moves on to the next thing/gets bored, but you can't ignore that something completely unprecedented and incredibly exciting is currently happening.
>>6
but what is happening? how is that terrible tumblreddit going to become 2chans international branch? are they going to put up some textboards and direct english speakers there
>a shit
Could you learn proper grammar, please?
Also, 8chan (infinity chan) is a much different style imageboard than most existing ones. It allows anyone to create a board and post whatever they want on it, a huge plus from the classic restrictive chans. In this sense, it makes it possible to be a chan for anyone and everyone, something any interest-centric chan wasn't able to achieve in the past. (A chan for technology and anime can't cater to those looking for music and art, for example, unless the admins decide to make a board for it)
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>>8
So like reddit then?
It feels cheap and vulgar. More of the "make your own 4chan and be your own little moot" shit. Look at the featured boards, all 4chan boards.
If you're gonna do something like this, at least put a cap on the bullshit the boards substaff might do, and perhaps provide a way to "import" threads from board to board or something.
>A chan for technology and anime can't cater to those looking for music and art, for example, unless the admins decide to make a board for it
That's stupid, niggas aren't restricted to browsing a single site.
>So like reddit then?
Like the Russian imageboards
https://2ch.hk/userboards.html
or usenet
https://www.binsearch.info/groups.php?server=2
http://www.newsdemon.com/how-to-create-big-8-usenet-newsgroup.php
It's a proven, successful model.
This just in, apparently it was inspired by reddit.
I still think it's a good model.
It would be better if the boards were unmoderated and shit. Would work better with a textboard though
>>12
I disagree, while individual success is not an oddity, that model encourages highly fragmentary behavior. The fact of the mater is a website is already dividing the vast population on the internet into the tiniest sliver who actively use the site, it is generally bad policy to allow further subdivision. While you may not agree with the notion, it is generally accepted there is a sweet spot for user activity between too much and not enough, and allowing everyone and their mother to create boards just reduces the activity each one of them will see. Sure one or two will prove popular enough to do fine, perhaps even thrive given enough raw material(users), but in general for every success there are going to be many more trampled underfoot. I am sorry but I simply do not see it as a viable model.
So is this a good development? Will this lead to smaller 8chan boards being nice places with good discussion, or merely kill off (well, severely damage) the smaller *chans while yielding inferior replacements? (Why pay to host your own niche board when 8chan'll do it?)
I'm worried this could cause further centralization, damage the uniqueness of smaller imageboards and generally be harmful, but want to be optimistic that something good will happen.
Is there any further detail on how they got a deal with 2ch?
>>16
It'll be a bit like free hosting but with a software you can't change, no?
>Some terrible raid-centric imageboard
These awful preconceptions.
>>2
That kind of thinking is really arrogant and small-minded. 4chan alternatives that have sprung over the years are still alive and well. Just because -you- don't browse or care about them, doesn't mean they died after they fell off your personal radar 3 months later.
The way I see it, each numbered "chan" carries on the tradition of being an enumerated channel, like on TV. Though I'm sure the origin of "chan" is lost on many users nowadays.
As for my personal opinion of 8chan, there aren't any particular board communities there that interest me, and those niche boards that might have interested me are practically dead. Whether this will change with its exposure due to gamergate or its partnership with 2ch, I don't know. Will have to wait and see.
8chan's Japanese language sister site at 8ch.co is pretty much dead. It seems like exactly what happened to most other spinoff boards happened to it too - it had a big surge of activity for about a month as people dropped by saying "hm, I wonder what this place is all about" before getting bored and going back to the board they were more comfortable on.
One thing I forgot to mention - as yet another board whose entire selling point was "it's not 4chan!" it was pretty much doomed from the start. Most of the other successful imageboards out there do so because they found some kind of niche to fill: 420chan has drugs and pro-wrestling, Krautchan caters to German speakers and those interested in foreign politics. I notice that this is the case even on 4chan, while it's technically a site for general interests, those interested in anime stay mostly on /a/, technology-lovers stay on /g/, gamers on /v/, etc. For as much as moot tries to promote the "one big happy 4chan family" thing, most of the bigger boards have their own distinct cultures and in-jokes and very little cross-boarding and could for all intents and purposes be completely separate websites and not many people would notice.
Oh god i can't stop laughing. The OP itself was mis-informed, but then there are those gems here and there.
>>14
Boards can be unmoderated, only moderation that happens globally is the removal of posts that break Washington laws.
Here's his speech when someone questioned 8chan pedophilia boards:
"Unfortunately, yes. I don’t support the content on the boards you mentioned, but it is simply the cost of free speech and being the only active site to not impose more 'laws' than those that were passed in Washington, D.C." -Fredrick Brennan/"Hotwheels"
>>16
Hehe
I don't think Hotwheels actually tought about that when he made 8chan
>and being the only active site to not impose more 'laws' than those that were passed in Washington, D.C
thats not true, anokchan for instance just has no spams and no shiteposting against the boards theme
and like no CP i guess
Not allowing any discussion of shit illegal under some jurisdiction has more to do with site operators preference than with any requirement to run a site.
>These awful preconceptions.
Gonna go ahead and guess that he introduced the site that way to avoid seeming too invested in something that wasn't exactly proven yet.
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>>22
Hosting or allowing illegal content to stay ends up fucking sites and leading them to crashing all the time or outright shutting down because of ad and server issues, not to mention there's the fear of getting liable of said content as well.
I mean, sites like Minitokyo and Zerochan have even stepped up filters because advertisers there get too uppity over tame anime ecchi stuff.
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3 months and it's still here. >>2
I don't like copypaste for personal reasons, but I also hate the "oh they're fighting for a cause what losers" attitude. The fact is that SJWs have been fucking with these communities for years. Communities that people who go to 4chan care about. Gaming, comics, guns, fitness etc. So it was inevitable that they were going to fight back. It's too bad that moot doesn't trust his users and threw them under the bus. The lie that they were "raiding" is pathetic. It was boycotts and raising money for charity. Since when has 4chan ever cared about its image. When you have 4chan acting like the mature people in the room and try to force a conversation about social issues, especially at a time where it was getting bad press (celeb leaks) you'd think moot would hold that up as a good thing not cave to his friends in California.
Personally, I hope something happens to 4chan's /a/ so they do an exodus somewhere. That's the only thing holding me to 4chan. In the longrun, I dont
>>31
Illegal content sounds misleading. I wasn't talking of cee pee and didn't had in mind any images or videos or something.
I don't know, say, talking of riot tactics (from rioters perspective), that would get some persons nervous, and the redditchan staff would delete it as "illegal content," perhaps.
Consider 420chan, an imageboard dedicated almost entirely to discussing illegal content (drugs). They don't seem to have any problems finding advertisers.
Are you all considering it acceptable for boards to have advertising though? I sure don't want to go to any site that does, even if I block them
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8chan is still alive and strong. i like the /cyber/ (cyberpunk) board and the video games text board /videogames/ very much. i like the site because it feels very "dynamic". new boards explode in popularity and die in days, and it feels like something fresh every time. I think that it is impossible to stop decay and stagnation in any community, but being able to make fresh communities easily keeps the website strong.
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>>40
For some reason, your comment reads like a highschool essay to me.
But anyways, 8ch has some nice things, but like all splinter chans I'm not sure if it will survive. Think of the hundreds of other splinter chans. 7chan is probably the earliest, that came about because of WT Snacks in like 2007. All of them are 3/4ths dead now, if not completely gone.
>7chan is probably the earliest
How did you manage to find this site without knowing about wakachan/iichan?
>>20
moot talked a lot about the issue of crossboarding and "board culture" in his farewell stream. It seems to be something he was genuinely disappointed by. Ever since the death of /b/ around 2008 4chan culture has slowly been decentralizing and evolving in different directions, with each board developing its own niche culture and memes. moot flat out admitted the "one big 4chan family" vision has failed, and that 4chan is now a site for people with very specific hobbies instead of a general "fuck around on the internet" zone.
8chan has a board for discussing imageboard culture.
http://8ch.net/newspaper/
>>43
1chan was way before that, and it's still around... 5chan was probably the first "let's make a terrible copy of 4chan and watch it crash and burn in a few months". not that 4chan itself hasn't died and been resurrected a million times...
>>44
Maybe he shouldn't have made all those useless non-Japanese themed boards in the first place. He shouldn't have turned /b/ into "random" in the first place.
