This thread is for all your simple questions about installing and running Wakaba or Kareha, that just require quick answers. Please don't create new threads for issues like that, post them in here instead.

Before posting, check that the question has not already been answered in this thread, or in the previous two threads:

• http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1141929669/
• http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1192108766/

Also check the documentation: http://wakaba.c3.cx/docs/docs.html

There is also a setup guide by Anon: http://wiki.iiichan.net/index.php?title=Wakaba_and_Kareha_Setup_Guide

Questions about "500 Internal Server Errors" go in this thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1109033191/

>>241
...did you try rebuilding the cache?

>>242
Um I don't know exactly what you mean by that :S

Wakaba 3.0.9
Some basic questions for you guys.
• I've searched for a while as to where the place to change what style sheets are used. I assumed it was in futaba_style.pl but after searing through many a perl file I could not locate it. I thought what If I just take the existing styles out of .../css/ and of course replace them with my own and fix it in the config.pl but I don't want to get to install time and have a stupid question. I'd rather get my being stupid done with. Even a thread with the relevant information would be great.

• Would it be better to lower the CAPTCHA_LIFETIME => from 1440 seconds to say 60?

• Does setting TRIM_METHOD => 1 when using ARCHIVE_MODE => 1 make for a correct environment so that the script can archive properly instead of doing some funky unwanted stuff?

• What does NUKING a board do? My thoughts are a nuke, which would mean no more board. I'm clueless on this one since I never had to feel the need to click the button.

• That's about the only problems I'm having as I was successfully able to set up multiple wakaba boards in the past with little difficulty. I just need to get a little more creative and make it my own.

Thanks for having a great script. WAHa :)

Also I wouldn't need .../extras/oekaki, old_perl, translations, and load_balancing directories if I'm not using them right? Don't know if I need any of this miscellaneous.

>>244

> I thought what If I just take the existing styles out of .../css/ and of course replace them with my own

That's actually all you need to do.

>What does NUKING a board do? My thoughts are a nuke, which would mean no more board. I'm clueless on this one since I never had to feel the need to click the button.

Pretty much. I mean, the board's still there, but all of the data is deleted.

> Does setting TRIM_METHOD => 1 when using ARCHIVE_MODE => 1 make for a correct environment so that the script can archive properly instead of doing some funky unwanted stuff?

You'll need to make the folders and set up the permissions manually.

>245

Exactly.

Alright cool. Fun times then

Thanks Mr. Manager

I thought the folders in each install were already setup. As in:
I'm not on the computer right now but I believe it's the the "arch" folder that has 3 folders in it. Either way I thought the "arch" folder was reserved for archival needs.

I know you're host has to be cool with .pl scripts as well so that everything gets chmoded proper like when the html get crapped out from the whole archive process.

Another dumbass thought. I was pondering what you wrote about
You'll need to make the folders and set up the
permissions manually.
I figured I might want to look inside of config.pl at the bottom where all directories are listed, or in the archive script which I forgot what it's called. When I get home I'll look in those 2 spots and if it's not there I'll just lurk moar?

Again, many thanks Mr. Manager.

>>248
I was talking about arch. All you'll need to do now is make sure the permissions are okay, and you should be fine. In my experience, archiving seems to be a little testy on most setups, so I'd experiment with unimportant threads before using it for anything serious. I accidentally lost the first 50 posts of my board because wakaba and my server configuration didn't like arch wasn't owned by www-data.

I'm too stupid sometimes.

config_defaults.pl
Is this for after a nuke?

Lawd. I remember reading somewhere that it'd be good to have the tables (admin and proxy) for all the boards be the same.

For admin tables I get it for banning on all boards. I know about the crypto secret in config.pl (all tripcodes the same). I'd just like some clarification from some pros on the proxy side.

I don't think you're going to need a dedicated server. Get a $15/year VPS from BuyVM if you want to experiment.

Well I'm OK on the web hosting now. I was just tripping out and didn't want to do the wrong thing.

So what about the proxy tables being the same?
Is config_defaults.pl for after a nuke? Does it resort to needing that.

>>255
Sure, and no. Your config is safe after a nuke.

Well thank you good sir.

I was wondering if this thread is dead:
wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1111785884/
I think it is but I was wondering if you have to have a seperate SQL DB for each notes install?

>>238
Nah, it updated just thumb, leaving image as it is

>>259
Interesting. Thanks for pointing it out. I would've never noticed.

I'm still thinking that it's one SQL per notes install.

Thanks dudes,

To change the filetypes that are OK to use on a board. Would I go into

wakaba.pl

and go to

sub get_filetypes()

and just add some more

sub get_filetypes()
my %filetypes=FILETYPES;
$filetypes(gif)=$filetypes(jpg)=$filetypes(png)=$filetypes(mp3)=$filetypes(torrent)=$filetypes(swf)=1;

Something like this?

I forgot. it's been about 2 years since I last attempted this.

I just noticed that whole ID thing. I'm on my phone and I guess at&t give their phone network some random IP thing. not too sure. Well I'm setting Wakaba up today, well hopefully.

I'll try and see what I can do and then I'll come back here to see what's good. I was perusing around the internet and was at wakabachan iiichan and some other ones and dome of them had the main board HTML as some funky stuff, other than the generic index.html and I was wondering if that was some normal thing or if you could just rename it in config.pl or some other .pl and then rebuild caches?

Oh yeah did you hear about godaddy getting pwned somehow? All there servers went to crap. Darn news.

> Oh yeah did you hear about godaddy getting pwned somehow?

It's surprising how much I've heard about that... I wouldn't expect people who use GoDaddy to know how to read, let alone type.

>>264
Hey now, I have a single domain with them from a year and a half ago, before I knew any better.

I guess I'll stick with it until I find something better. I might have to make another thread on hosts. since I don't think it's been posted to in quite a while. I for one don't have a ton of money and I'd like a host who isn't going to whine about the stuff I have on the site. Obviously nothing illegal. I do want to have a tgp but that's besides the point.

Anyways I believe we're getting off topic. I'll create a thread for new hosts because I hate being that necroposter Guy.

I think we also need a new thread for the Notes script. because I like it.

> Don't start new threads for every question,

... just sayin'. the existing threads aren't full yet, why not keep using them?

I'm not starting threads for every question. This is the first thread I started.

wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1347420999/l50

it just doesn't seem like web hosts is this threads topic. the other thread I read and I'm looking for some different answers so I think it's a tad different. I'm not going to argue, I'd just like to get some help or suggestions is all and not waste my money.

my bad. The notes one was just a suggestion. but the web host one is something I'd like to plan out in advance and have it ready to go.

Why is Kareha so slow for large boards? e.g. /dqn/

>>271
I hear its slow all the time, but I just went to DQN and every thread I opened loaded with 1 second.

>>271
>>272
Never mind. Posting is pretty slow.

Ok so I got one test board up so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and not replicate it. But I have

fuckingdesired.com/a/wakaba.html

and it's letting me know that it's timing out when it tries to get to

https://www.fuckingdesired.com/a/wakaba.pl?task=admin

which is kind of a bummer. I'm allowed to post images, but i was trying to replace the css and rebuild the caches, which should fix the css and make it all good. At least I was thinking. I do have the https, the secure admin thing on in config.pl. I'm thinking I may want to turn that off and try again.

Ok so I'm thinking I was just trying to be too cool. I took off the https secure thing and redid the board and it's semi cool for now. So yay.

Oh my gosh, this is quite frustrating. I got one board set up by some kind of trial and error. I tryed to setup my other boards under the same MySQL

I have the same user & pass for the DB for each board, but with different tables for captcha and comments and the same for admin, and proxy. that the first board has and for some goofy reason it's coming back with an error, a 500 server error to be exact. I figured I'd check here and see if I did something really dumb as crap. You can check it out at

fuckingdesired.com/am/wakaba.pl

or any thing like that since I have them all hanging out. I hate FTP with android. Sooooooo dumb.

If Waha has any questions or want to see the config just send me an email gotabowl at gmail.

>>276

>- wakaba 3.0.9 + utorrent + futallaby-
>utorrent

What?

what's wrong with utorrent?

I figured it out, I just didn't put the right permissions.

>>278
A lot but that's completely beside the point.

I'm trying to get Wakaba to keep linebreaks in certain parts of the template, specifically things that are included, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the whitespace successfully preserved in include() to not get stripped away in compile_template().

Any ideas? I have half of it working, I just need to find a way to make everything else play along.

>>280
Find sub include($) in wakautils.pl, and change the whole block to something like this:

sub include($;$)
{
	my ($filename,$nostrip)=@_;

	open FILE,$filename or return '';
	my $file=do { local $/; <FILE> };

	unless($nostrip)
	{
		$file=~s/^\s+//;
		$file=~s/\s+$//;
		$file=~s/\n\s*/ /sg;
	}

	return $file;
}

Then use something like include("file.html", 1) in the templates. The second argument will tell it to not strip whitespace.

I coulda sworn I already replied to >>281, but I don't see it here.

Anyways, I already got it not to strip whitespace in include(), but it's getting stripped later on in compile_template(). That's where my problem is.

I'm using Kareha on a board I made, but for some reason every new thread's number is 1, even though it should auto-increment.
Now in Wakaba it would just be setting the MySQL table's thread number value to auto-increment, but since Kareha doesn't use SQL, how do I do this?

>>283

That's how it works.

>>282,280
Any updates on this?

I was wondering how I can get different, or other file types to be able to be uploaded, rather than the default jpg, PNG, and GIF.

I've searched for a solution but I guess I'm obviously retarded

>>286
There's an option in the config for this last time I checked...

Well like I said, I might be a tad retarded, I'll take a look for it again. Thanks for the reply though.

>>287

I am using Wakaba and I checked the config.pl again

#use constant ALLOW_UNKNOWN
#use constant MUNGE_UNKNOWN
#use constant FORBIDDEN_EXTENSIONS

These are what I came up with. This is my first time set up so I'm not that knowledgeable on where this would be located but when I look at the setting listed above it just seems like those are the files that aren't allowed. I'd rather not mess around with it because I know I'll mess it up. I waited a month last time because I put a & in the

use constant TITLE

field.

Ok well I think I got it figured, my brain is full of hurt.
So my guess is that I uncomment the filestypes I'd like to use as long as there are images for them. I'd like to include .rtf, .txt, .docx

# Icons for filetypes - file extensions specified here will not be renamed, and will get icons
# (except for the built-in image formats). These example icons can be found in the extras/ directory.
#use constant FILETYPES => (

So all I have to do, I think is include the randoms after these ones and uncomment the ones I want? Like so?
# # Other files
# swf => 'icons/flash.png',
# torrent => 'icons/torrent.png',

    rtf => 'icons/rtf.png',
    docx => 'icons/docx.png',
    txt =>  'icons/txt.png',
    odt => 'icons/odt.png',

Blimy

ok so where I'm testing this at is

fuckingdesired.com/test/

and I got the filetypes to display on the rules.html but when I tried to post a txt file I got this:

Software error:

Possible IE XSS exploit in file at wakautils.pl line 1118.

I went to line 1118 where it told me it's having a problem

# Check for IE MIME sniffing XSS exploit - thanks, MS, totally appreciating this

read $file,my $buffer,256;
seek $file,0,0;
die "Possible IE XSS exploit in file" if $buffer=~/<(?:body|head|html|img|plaintext|pre|script|table|title|a href|channel|scriptlet)/;

Looked through this a bit and decided I didn't know what it did but it was quite a bummer. Thought I had figured this out. So I went back to the config.pl and uncommented these hoping it'd make it work but nope

use constant ALLOW_UNKNOWN => 1;
use constant MUNGE_UNKNOWN => '.unknown';

So now my head is full of fudge again but I'll attempt to play around and figure it out which is why I made a test board.

Good gawrsh...

Ok jeeze didn't take too long to figure out.

I went into wakaba.pl line 1613 and added this business

sub get_filetypes()
{

my %filetypes=FILETYPES;
$filetypes{gif}=$filetypes{jpg}=$filetypes{png}=$filetypes{rtf}=$filetypes{doc}=$filetypes{docx}=$filetypes{txt}=$filetypes{odt}=$filetypes{odf}=1;
return join ", ",map { uc } sort keys %filetypes;

But for some reason the images I made aren't showing up even though I defined where they live in the config.pl? kind of odd

I guess I figured it mostly out so now I can try to figure the next portion out.

The test board is at

fuckingdesired.com/test/

>>292

>utorrent

I have no fucking idea what you're doing and neither do you.

>>285,280,282
Any advice on this? I'm starting to think it may be impossible because of the way the template system is coded, but I'm really hoping someone could tell me otherwise.

>>294
I believe compile_template takes an optional second argument which preserves whitespace. Simply change }.NORMAL_FOOT_INCLUDE); at the end of each template to }.NORMAL_FOOT_INCLUDE, 1);.

>>295
You'd probably be better off asking your question here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/

>>296

Lol, I don't know how that'd be any bit more helpful than I am asking
questions here. Kind of figured I'd get that response.
I guess I'll have to go to freelancer.com and pay someone
to set up the extra stuff I want. Been thinking about it for a while,
I am learning Perl but I'm still on Learning Perl
but I don't think that's going to help anytime soon.
So I think that's my best bet.

Thanks for all the great helpful help Anon.
Guess I'll email Waha and if I get nothing from that
I'll shell out $500 I don't have to get someone who knows the answer to the questions I ask. I mean this is a discussion board for
the script, amiright? I'd think someone would come up
with something a tad better then telling me
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but shit
it's nice to know that only a couple of people on
here actually do. Not that I'll be switching to
Kusaba X, because I'd see that as traitorous
behavior plus it's just bloated.

Waha, Mr. Manager
Thanks for your help and Wags keep at it.

All I know is I'm not going to ask a question
here ever again, because I know I'll never get a legit
answer from people who want to look down
on me for ... hmmmm .... not understanding
years and years of coding experience.

My goodness, a discussion board for not help.

>>296
I don't think I'm communicating my problem too well. I already know how to preserve ALL whitespace. What I'm attempting to do is preserve it only in certain areas, which is proving impossible.

>>298
Ah, right. The only thing I can think of is to use something like <var include("foo.html")> in the templates instead of using include() the "normal" way. The only problem is that any template code inside of it won't be evaluated without a bit of extra effort, although <var compile_template(include("foo.html"), 1)-\>()> could possibly solve that. It's not pretty, however.

>>298,299
Oh, and you'll have to use the modified include() function I posted earlier, and call it with the second argument.

>>299,300
Thanks. I'll see if it works sometime today. You don't think it could cause performance problems, do you?

>>301
The solution involving compile_template could, yes.

HTML5 when?

>>303
I don't think WAHa really cares about updating the template when it works just fine by default. If you really care that much (you shouldn't unless you can do something about it yourself), there are a few forks, including my own that output near 100% valid HTML5, and do a few other things Wakaba doesn't my default.

>>304
So where's the link to your fork?

>>305
I'm too embarrassed. Seriously though, if don't know how to do it yourself, you don't need to do it.

Well if you're too embarrassed, shizzle.
Just wanted to check out what you did?
If you could link to a site that'd be cool.

is there a video tutorial? i cant get this woring
when i try to edit config.pl i cant find the lines that are mentiond in the tutorial/documentation

Mr. Manager is very likely one of the two forks I've seen on GitHub. Either frankusrs or dequis. I may be wrong and there may be more than just these two out there. Unfortunately, I can't use either of the ones I listed because of the level of customization of my own script. There are features from frankusrs that I'd love to implement (like the report function), but there's no way to do it at my level of programming.

I don't think there's a video tutorial for any of the imageboard scripts.
Kinda lame but that's how it is I guess.

>309

So what I'm getting from that is that implementing the addition of the forks is something rather hard to do and even much harder for a noob like me?
Doesn't seem like something I'd like to atemot.
But it doesn't mean that you can't pay a programmer to just implement it for you and then copy it across all boards.
I don't know, just an idea.

ok then a good stet by step tutorial on how to install kereha?

>>312

1. Download Kareha
2. Put it in the directory you want
3. Fill out the config
4. Set some reasonable permissions
5. Enjoy

That's all you should have to do on a common setup.

on the documentation page it shows that i have lots of options to change in the config but my config shows like this
should i replace with the configs on the documentation page?

MY CONFIG PAGE

print <<END
Content-Type: text/html

<html>
<head><title>Unconfigured board</title></head>
<body>

<h1>This board has not been configured yet.</h1>
<h3>Things you need to do to get the board running:</h3>

<ul>
<li>Choose what kind of board this should be, and copy the files out of the corresponding
<code>mode_*</code> directory into the board directory.</li>
<li>Edit <code>config.pl</code> to suit your needs - remember to uncomment the lines
you change.</li>
<li>Access <code>kareha.pl</code> again (or just reload this page).</li>
</ul>
</body>

</html>
END
;
exit 0;

1;

>>314
I'm not sure how you managed to fuck it up so badly, but all you have to do is follow my instructions exactly, and it will work. You only have to change the first two options too. Change ADMIN_PASS and SECRET, and things will work perfectly without anymore work on your part. Copy the files, change those two constants, set your permissions, and enjoy. There's not much more I can do to clarify. I've never used Kareha before, and I just did it all in under 2 minutes.

http://warehouse.glauchan.org/kareha/

the kareha i downloaded was like that form the beginning ... i still cant get it to work... anyways thx for your help

>>316
You downloaded this (http://wakaba.c3.cx/releases/kareha_3.1.4.zip), right?

>>314,316
Read the instructions in that config. You're supposed to copy the files from one of the mode_* folders, then edit the config. That is also explained in the documentation.

im making progresses now i get this error
No ADMIN_PASS defined in the configuration at config_defaults.pl line 8.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at config_defaults.pl line 133.
Compilation failed in require at /home/www/kareha.atwebpages.com/kareha.pl line 13.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/www/kareha.atwebpages.com/kareha.pl line 13.
but i changed the config.pl i put a password... do i nned to change something in the config_defaults.pl as well?

>>319

>do i nned to change something in the config_defaults.pl as well?

I suggest looking at config.pl VERY carefully until you figure out what you did wrong. This is an incredibly straightforward process.

Thank You very very much >>320 and>>318 i finally made this work once again thanks

>>299
Wow, it looks like this actually works. Thanks!

Any reason why Wakaba and Kareha don't wrap long lines with no whitespace? k

>>323
I think this is sensible behaviour. The alternative is 4chan-style mangling of people's comments. Or was that box model hyphenation thing finally implemented?

>>324
4chan adds line breaks every 100 characters, and Tinyboard uses CSS to wrap text.

Is there any reason why either of these is a bad idea? I'd like to avoid horizontal scrollbars if possible. They're very... tacky.

Hello, I just installed Kareha. Both rss and backlog pages are missing. Backlog page has header and footer while rss is completely empty. I've checked source but it seems these pages should just work, I see no onther indications of misconfiguration. Thread list works in admin panel. Do you have any clues what might be happening? Can that possibly be related to mode_image I am using?

And as for nginx configuration, it works for me with two extra lines:

fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.pl)(.*)$;
fastcgi_param PATH_INFO $fastcgi_path_info;

Also, wakabamark loses empty lines, is this intended?

On my kareha installation formatting doesn't work with half of the russian cyrillic symbols:
*ё*
*р*
*с*
*т*
*у*
*ф*
*х*
*ц*
*ч*
*ш*
*щ*
*ъ*
*ы*
*ь*
*э*
*ю*
Is this related to my perl installation, or something else server-side or is it kareha's default and localization should be done for them to work? If so, is there some sort of documentation displaying this process?

>>325
Cutting URLs up so they no longer work is one of the biggest problems.

Text is already wrapped with the standard box model rules. If it's one long word, there's not a lot that can be done. I'm guessing Tinyboard uses the hyphenation/word wrapping stuff implemented in CSS3, so you could probably implement it yourself. div.reply { word-wrap: break-word } or something like that.

>>328
Sadly this doesn't work perfectly. I can't seem to get the posts to flow "properly" without using display:table, and word-wrap doesn't work with that property.I wonder what I'm missing...

You might not be able to use word-wrap with tables. I use word-wrap on intern3ts/chansluts/etc, but I converted to divs a long time ago.

>>331
So have I. I'm not using tables, I'm using a CSS property (display:table) to make divs behave like tables. I'd use display:inline-block, but that seems to cause other flow issues, especially if I want to keep the >>'s next to replies.

Its not the end of the world though. I'll just concatenate hyperlinks and add breaks to plain text. Its the best I'm capable of doing. If anyone has any better ideas, I'm all ears though.

>>332
I haven't had much of a chance to test this, but I think I figured out how to make this work. I'm not sure just what I did that made it work, but after rearranging CSS properties in every configuration imaginable, I managed to get things to flow properly without needing to pragmatically add line breaks and use display:table.

Case closed, I guess.

Oh, yes, you should be using table-cell, if you want divs to be beside each other.

>>334
That actually messed up some other formatting inside of my reply div, so I just decided to get rid of everything table related in my CSS.

This is really weird, but I'm having an issue with a user's tripcode appearing incorrectly on my board, while it works perfectly in Tinyboard and on 4chan. I don't recall ever messing with tripcode generation, so I'm not sure what the problem could be. Have there been any similar problems in the past?

>>336
Different board software has minor differences in the ways tripcodes are implemented. He probably has a weird character in his tripcode which causes Wakaba to interpret it "incorrectly".

This might be of help: http://hotaru.thinkindifferent.net/trip.html

>>337
Yeah... I had just hoped it would be seemless between 4chan and Wakaba. Anyways, I just ended up throwing in some code that replaces the trip with the proper one. Also, is hotaru still around?

I've got a Kareha board running on a VPS, Ubuntu 12.04.whateverisnew. Posting is working but replies aren't. For some reason, every directory that is /kareha/numbers/ is 403 Forbidden. You can still do replies if you navigate to /res/numbers.html, but I can't expect my users to do this. I've already chmodded EVERYTHING. Apache Error logs give this line:

Options ExecCGI is off in this directory: /var/www/kareha.pl

But I have in my apache2.conf:

<Directory /var/www/kareha.pl>

 Options +ExecCGI
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all

</Directory>

I'm at my wit's end. I hate to ask for help, but somebody might know something that I don't.

>>339
Your problem is that kareha.pl is not a directory, it is a file.

I have

 <Files /var/www/kareha.pl>
      Options +ExecCGI
      order allow,deny
      allow from all
 </Files>

in the config too, and that still doesn't fix the problem.