i would welcome a more serious approach in discussion on this topic. until that day comes, i will just lurk and wait. in the meanwhilke, any users dedicated to real discussion on this and other topics are more then welcome to drop a few lines on the rather young http://www.momo-shi.net --it is for the faint of heart but still we take the rules serious, i cant stand all this trollpack and useless posts. respect to the mods here, which at least try to keep it clean.