The "lolikon" thread (77)

1 Name: Anonymous 2005-09-30 21:36 ID:Heaven [Del]

Since this was being discussed in another thread where it was totally off-topic, I think it's time for it to have its own thread. Here we discuss the word "lolikon", and the difference in meaning between the original Japanese word and the English usage of it.
http://wakaba.c3.cx/soc/kareha.pl/1121956450/105

28 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-10-19 01:38 ID:Heaven [Del]

It's always one of those oh no, please not this moments.

Rape, tentacle penes, and loli infatuation. No wonder some people think Japan is just plan crazy.

29 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 05:56 ID:Heaven [Del]

> No wonder some people think Japan is just plan crazy.

If western artists wouldn't suck so bad, this sentiment would not be reserved to the Japanese...

30 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 09:09 ID:YcFu1DHf [Del]

>> 27

Are you suggesting that Ichigo Mashimaro cannot be enjoyed if one is not a lolikon?
Its hilarious my gf adores it.

>> 29

here here! western artists do have little imagination.
Sure most stuff coming out of japan even turns me off, but through all their crazyiness they do manage to dish out new and unique concepts.

31 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 10:32 ID:R1YtKJaJ [Del]

>>30

Of course not! But the manga was created by a artist who started off drawing lolicon doujins. Not to mention all the bath scenes, panty shots and sexual innuendo. So the suspicion is natural.

Of course, IM's fanservice pales in comparison to shows like Popotan, Rizelmine, and manga like Chokotto Sister. It's just that IM is more "mainstream" and thus gets more (good and bad) attention.

32 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 10:58 ID:Heaven [Del]

Someone post a link to the two pages where Barasui explains how IM came to be...

33 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 18:06 ID:pN1piuhX [Del]

IM is less mainstream than CCS (which is, of course, the Daicon IV of loli shows). IM airs at what, 1 in the morning?

34 Name: Reality Check 2005-10-27 13:08 ID:91ed1vXG [Del]

If you dont like it dont watch it I mean It's just drawings anyway It's supposed to be a form of art and expression
Untill a bunch of people freak out and turn it into something it's not.

35 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-27 15:11 ID:Heaven [Del]

Right, because drawings exist in a moral vacuum, unfettered by human desires or failings.

36 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-29 23:00 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>35
shrug It explains guro's popularity.

37 Name: Christopher 2005-10-31 09:43 ID:U7h4EeRn [Del]

Drawings do exist in a moral vacuum, look at the pictures that Picasso and other famous artists have made of nude children, and no one but idiots seem to get incensed over them.

38 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-31 10:02 ID:Heaven [Del]

Are you comparing your anime porn to Picasso now?

39 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-31 11:52 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>38
Postmodern blahblah discourse will stop at nothing!

40 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-31 21:13 ID:Heaven [Del]

I like looking at Hoshino Fuuta more than Picasso. Am I a bad person?

41 Name: Anonymous 2005-11-01 17:57 ID:aIRlFX8t [Del]

>>38
Because art made hundreds of years ago is special, amirite.

42 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-11-01 18:30 ID:Heaven [Del]

Picasso is hundreds of years old?

I always knew I shouldn't have listened to that alien.

43 Name: Anonymous 2005-11-01 22:56 ID:Heaven [Del]

Picasso didn't do paintings of little girls getting molested by their guitar teachers.

Now, Balthus on the other hand...

44 Name: Anonymous : 2005-11-03 19:27 ID:Heaven [Del]

Now this thread is going places!

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46 Name: Anonymous : 2006-04-01 10:46 ID:u3guv3z4 [Del]

sage?

47 Name: Anonymous : 2006-04-01 10:47 ID:Heaven [Del]

sage

48 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2006-04-01 15:26 ID:Heaven [Del]

Stop posting shit, >>46-47.

49 Name: Casey : 2006-07-01 17:59 ID:L1o1M2vM [Del]

lolikon is not a japanese word it refers to a book called Lolita
Lolikon means lolita complex

50 Name: Anonymous : 2006-07-01 22:22 ID:c4zb5Y8V [Del]

I think you may wish to reexamine your linguistics if you think it's not a Japanese word because it's a loan word.

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54 Name: Anonymous : 2006-12-28 03:07 ID:YFI/U8Eu [Del]

well the term "lolikon" usually implys those who love girls under 18 sexually.

55 Name: Psiweapon : 2007-01-25 12:03 ID:tj4zwM7X [Del]

loli: female individual deemed "too young to have sex" by the standard used (which can be age of consent, appearance, age, whatever)
lolikon: fiction depicting scenes which involve "lolis", with of causing sexual arousal.

56 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-25 13:20 ID:Heaven [Del]

That's at least three corruptions away from the real meaning, man. There's no such word as "loli" outside of very lazy slang, and "lolikon" is short for "lolita complex". Try to actually know what you're talking about before attempting to lecture others.

57 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-26 13:21 ID:Heaven [Del]

> There's no such word as "loli" outside of very lazy slang,

I think you may with to reexamine your linguistics if you think there's such a thing as "very lazy slang".

58 Name: Anonymous : 2007-01-26 18:15 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>56 And I bet you think that Shakespeare was the height of the English language's evolution.

59 Name: LGLover : 2007-04-10 00:06 ID:c/rDLk8v [Del]

Who cares! I love loli, lolicon, lolita, preteen, nymphet, underage, girls no matter what anybody calls them. Am I a pedo? Yes, most definitely. Would I hurt little girls? No.

I have had physical love with young girls and we all enjoyed ourselves. No vaginal or anal penetration was involved but the girls in question did climax on most occasions.

60 Name: asd : 2007-04-14 01:58 ID:zgWRHr/H [Del]

lolicon = person who loves loli
loli = prepubescent girl

thread over

61 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-14 04:35 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>60

It was over long before you made a shitt post in it.

62 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-25 07:02 ID:TNm6MD1P [Del]

>>60 not really, Alicekon is prepubescent girls, lolicon is pubescent girls. The difference is Alicekon is primarily 7-12 while lolikon is usually 12-16

Lolikon: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3

Alicekon:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9

63 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-25 10:46 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>62

That kind of thing is nothing but weasel words for people who don't want to admit they're pedophiles.

64 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-25 11:02 ID:48CPC2FZ [Del]

sssdsvsv

65 Name: sage : 2007-04-27 13:36 ID:1lKkstXo [Del]

Sage for this discussion. CP was legal in Japan till 2000. Some cultures do some things, others don't. Each to his own.

66 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-27 16:42 ID:JKftj8dJ [Del]

>>65 gg on that sage

67 Name: Anonymous : 2007-04-28 07:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>63
Funnily enough, >>62 was actually on-topic with that.

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69 Name: Broken heart master : 2007-06-29 15:30 ID:ZP2fEQAs [Del]

Well i am not pedo, but i like some anime girls between 10 to 18 years old and i am a 16 years old guy.

70 Name: Anonymous : 2007-06-30 10:57 ID:Heaven [Del]

Believe us, we care deeply.

71 Name: Anonymous : 2009-07-01 14:13 ID:VyVXzx3n [Del]

niggers

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73 Name: Anonymous : 2009-08-15 13:42 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>70
I believe the internet best practice for this post is "cool story, bro".

74 Name: Anonymous : 2009-08-15 21:20 ID:Heaven [Del]

>2007-06-30 10:57

75 Name: Anonymous : 2009-08-28 11:16 ID:9jbeeOps [Del]

>>66

>I am a huge pedo who wanks to 10 year olds

fixed

76 Name: Hiro : 2011-06-14 02:00 ID:20g2cGIw [Del]

Well, I'm 16, and I like 15-year-old girls --> I AM A PEDOPHILE!
0_0! It does not make any sense.
And what's the matter even if I'm a Pedophile?
http://www.uncommonforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21521
Hence.

77 Name: Gucci Outlet : 2012-08-23 07:34 ID:2GrO/3A2 [Del]

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