Futaba
http://www.2chan.net/script/
Futallaby (up to 040103)
http://www.1chan.net/futallaby/
Wakaba
http://wakaba.c3.cx/
moeren
http://moepic.dip.jp/gazo/script/index.php
siokara
(seems to be still in heavy development.
couldn't find a link to an available
version of the script)
http://siokara.ath.cx
Swetnote
(couldn't find a link to an available
version to the script, it's probably
only for people who register or
perhaps even a pay-product?)
http://www.sweetnote.com/
Ochiba (by h-cube)
http://ochiba.x-maru.org/
>>15
That isn't an imageboard script, it's a combination of an imageboard script and an old registration-only forum like vBulletin. (Just try posting to it as Anonymous.)
Oh, waah, waah. It doesn't require registration at all; it just doesn't let you post with a blank "Name" field. Thirty second Ochiba hack to allow anonymous posting:
includes/post.phpFind line 53:
array_push($errors,$ERRORS["namerequired"]);Replace it with these two lines:
$name="Anonymous";
setcookie("name",$name,COOKIE_EXPIRES);Note that I haven't actually tested this, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. Either way, you can still just put random characters in the "Name" field. That's nothing like a reg-only board.
>>18
it will still give you an obnoxious Javascript warning when you post, to the tune of "Are you SURE you don't want to add a tripcode to your post? Using a tripcode gives you access to fun added features such as constant flamewars about your character! Click 'OK' to generate a tripcode for you and attach it to all your posts, or 'Cancel' to just stop posting because you're not good enough for my image board."
Then open up the template and edit out the JavaScript. Do I have to hold your hand for that too?
Thread on 2channel on image board scripts:
http://pc5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/php/1083828423/
Should I add Wakaba to it?
Same for Futaba:
I'd like that. Wakaba can run in Japanese, too. There are a few untranslated strings, but mostly in the admin panel...
That's strange. It seems 2ch is having some server problems. As of today, I sometimes cannot post to threads with my foreign IP and sometimes I cannot view whole threads. Mostly I get sent to this site: http://www2.2ch.net/live.html
I was also thinking that maybe you should provide some Japanese text as a short introduction on your website.
>>25
That's not server problems, that's
1) overreaching proxy blocking on some servers
2) removal of old threads to save bandwidth
> 1) overreaching proxy blocking on some servers
what
I'd like to have a japanese version of the homepage, but sadly I kind of suck at actually writing the language. If any were to volunteer to make a translation, however...
How about giving a shoutout? Mentioning here and there in some thread buried in some board isn't going to get this thing going!
Well, for what it's worth, I put up a link on the notes thingy for now:
http://wakaba.c3.cx/notes/notes.pl?image=http%3a%2f%2fkao%2ewakachan%2enet%2fr%2fsrc%2f1114090928922%2epng
Cool! I'll put that up on the main site as soon as I get around to doing an update.
I think it's an accurate description of the state of things around here.
I didn't change that when it officially did die, so I don't see why I should change it now! <-- "I'm too lazy to update my homepage ever"
I did HALF an update! (Thanks to my secret project!)
I added the page here: http://wakaba.c3.cx/index_j.html
Now I just need to add a link to it on the front page somewhere.
> Now I just need to add a link to it on the front page somewhere.
Can't you instead set up a script that automatically recognizes Japanese users and redirects them there?
Official site for the Siokara script (which seems to get pretty popular) now is:
http://siokara.que.jp/
All right, I finally got around to making a little PerlHP hack to pick the language for the front page based on the domain name of the person visiting. There are also links for changing the language, if it picks wrong.
Try it out and tell me if it works! Especially anyone on a .jp address - do you get a Japanese version?
Also, did I pick the right word for "Language" on the Japanese page?
argh and what about some english ones? >.<
jimmy
trevorchan FTW
test
trevorchan has come a long way from it's beginnings, it's actually a decent script now
Trevorchan looks decent on the outside. I've been working on my own message-board script for almost a year, and I wanted to see how TJ implemented certain things just to get some ideas about how to approach them myself, and that's when I saw the worst aspect of Trevorchan (imo): the code. Trevorchan can't possibly be efficient for the fact that the code is an absolute mess. It has that feel to it of, "Hey this is my first non-trivial PHP program."
If he were to just trash it and re-write it from a clean slate then he would probably have a solid program. He has good ideas, just no understanding of good code or design.
>>58
Well. You gotta learn somehow.
A lot of people say a lot of sauce of a lot of software is bad. It's almost like functionality is inversely proportional to design. I actually wonder how good/bad my own code is; I'm sure if a better programmer than I looked at it he would see a lot of room for improvement.
>>59
That's always the case with any software -- no matter how good you think it is, there's always room for improvement, optimization, a refactoring to result in cleaner code, etc. somewhere, and generally the more experience someone has programming, the easier these improvements will be to find. But then again, sometimes a junior programmer straight out of college can find something that the long-term dev team members never noticed, just because they've gotten so used to the codebase that they just accept it as what it is rather than thinking how to improve it. It's not always the result of bad programming.
The distinction is when the improvements are highly obvious, like moving code that's been copied and pasted seven or eight times into a separate function call, not making three copies of the same variable that each only get used one time, etc.
Trevorchan is now called Kusaba.
>>61
Kusaba sounds slightly better then Kareha.
I'd better trash my kareha boards and use Trevysaba now.
Trevorchan/Kusaba is not an imageboard script.
Trevorchan/Kusaba is a 4chan emulator.
I mean...blotters, threadwatchers and stickies? What the fuck is that shit.
>>64
I don't use Trevorchan because I believe the code is shitty and so is the script execution.
But it's just plain dumb to not consider it an imageboard script. There are administrators out there that want such features (stickies, better management panel, thread closing, etc) and they may not have the know-how to hack it into what you consider to be a real imageboard script.
>>65
those people probably shouldn't be running websites until the learn why stickies and shitty code are a bad.
>>66
And what about the more intelligent admin that knows how to integrate said code into their own wakaba installs?
YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT THOUGH. IT'S SO DUMB TO HAVE THE OPTION TO USE SOME ADDITIONAL HANDY FEATURES. IN FACT, I THINK WAKABA SHOULD OUTPUT ALL TEXT TO STRAIGHT BINARY. THAT WOULD BE FOR THE BEST SINCE ANYONE NOT SEEING THINGS IN BINARY ARE JUST MAKING IT HARD ON THEMSELVES.
Stickies are great.
>>67
if they're intelligent they won't want stickies and shit like that.
>>70
All features copied from 4chan != progress
How 'bout coming up with something that's actually new?
>>73
That was a deep and thought provoking post.
So does anyone know what features that sort of new fork of Kareha (think its called Matsuba) has?
All I remember is that it had stickies; But I can't imagine someone would rename Kareha after adding fucking stickies.
>>74
Author thereof. It's not a fork of anything, though it's taken a lot of stuff from wakaba, few things from kareha, a couple odd things here and there from other boards. (and various other new features of dubious usefulness, such as subback for imageboards and a disturbingly overengineered markup syntax)
(only one board has stickies, and it's user-driven, so if you hate them just go unstick everything...)
Pixmicat! imageboard script
http://pixmicat.openfoundry.org/
Chinese, but it has English language UI.
>>74
If anything, Matsuba resembles Wakaba, the way it processes files and stuff (i.e. creating html files).
Work in progress... <_<;
http://code.google.com/p/pyib-standalone/
Multi-threaded (process-wise) Python imageboard software. The first of its kind, if I am not mistaken. It's not ready for the public yet, but I'm very glad to say that the project has went without problems.
In case you missed it, after a stable release is made I will be speaking with the site owners using kusaba and try to convince them to make the jump to the new software.
The front end of the software resembles wakaba more so than kusaba, with the removal of the extra features.
>>79
Looks like an ugly version of Futaba/Futallaby, and that's most likely what it is.
That's because it likely is Futaba, just with a different style of generated pages. Even the footer looks stock...
Not sure if it's been posted here before, there is Suigintou http://dataloss.freehostia.com/support/ and the guy coding it is attempting to keep it as close to the original Futaba script as possible. Looks promising.
> PHP imageboard/textboard software, suigintou. It's designed to be secure and efficient
lol
> trying to stay as close as possible to the original futaba imageboard script.
this is not a laudable goal
futaba sucks
He has a strong stance against using bbcode, which can be exploited.
How about someone make something new and useful and interesting.
Author thereof. Wasn't expecting it to be posted over here though...at least not until I decided to do it.
It's not exactly a finished project but the 1.5 release is compressed, packaged, and ready for download I guess.
I lol'd because it's true. ;__;
I originally wanted to code somewhat of a PHP counterpart to kareha, with a few features added and a few features removed, but after a while I just wanted to code an imageboard/BBS script that worked and ran efficiently/securely, despite the fact that it indeed was coded in PHP. It orignally ran comments through a MySQL database but after realizing the database structure for the boards sucked ass I just switched to log files.
I'm going to be releasing modifications to the script that can be implemented by users if they want, instead of shoving it down their throats like another popular hybrid script (>>80 Hi Trevor!), like a catalog mode, album mode, subback for imageboards, etc. There are some features I'm 50/50 about, like adding the ability to edit posts, hide threads etc. I mean, they seem like somewhat decent features, but I don't want to end up masturbating with javascript.
Only thing I'll ask you about is if your PHP 2ch textboard was by any chance based heavily off of the freestyle BBS script (from the creators of gazouBBS).
>Only thing I'll ask you about is if your PHP 2ch textboard was by any chance based heavily off of the freestyle BBS script (from the creators of gazouBBS).
Nevermind. The question's been answered.
>>79,81-89
Do we really need another English version of Futaba?
REchan e0 (never officially released), which I used in the first incarnation of REchan, was essentially Futaba translated into English. The one-script-per-board model gets very difficult to maintain if you have multiple boards.
I'd not bother with futaba except for feeling nostalgic towards it, and having seen people whine about MySQL being too difficult for them... and most of the image board software I see in English is heaps of files and multiple conf edits and all sorts of TrevorSaba type bullshit that actually makes editing several scripts and ftp'ing several folders and visiting them with a browser simpler by comparison.
I consider Wakaba/Kareha far superior to anything like this I've seen in PHP, but I've had webhosts who didn't even have Perl installed, so I needed something for my boards.
tl,dr: It's a hobby, it's fun, and I like sharing it with anyone who likes it. I don't see any of the innovative personages here coming up with anything better than all the scripts they say suck, but if they do, I'll be enthusiastic about their stuff too.
I don't know if you were talking to me but I'll some questions anyways.
>The one-script-per-board model gets very difficult to maintain if you have multiple boards.
If there's one thing Trevor did right with his scripts it was the ability to create multiple boards with one installation, making it easy to create multiple boards.
I wanted to duplicate that ease with my scripts but still stay true to the futaba style of one board per script, so that's why I've made most of the board creation automated within an admin panel. You can choose whether or not to make either an imageboard or textboard and it will pretty much do the copying of boards and creation of directories for you, all you have to do is visit the script after creation and it will render.
I however do agree with you on the fact that one script per board can get a little irritating, but the reason I left it like that was so making changes to one board was still easy.
>I don't see any of the innovative personages here coming up with anything better than all the scripts they say suck...
I agree to a certain extent and lol'd.
>but I'll some questions anyways.
Should be but I'll answer some questions anyways.
Too lazy to delete my post.
I agree on both the creation of boards from the admin panel and the boards being changed individually, I really like the idea of being able to make new boards without having to bother with ftp, but I've stuck with single-board scripts because of the ease of editing. Most of the repetitive bullshit can be avoided simply by giving the boards some files in common, it's as easy as typing "../", really.
Oh, and thank you so much for showing me your fuukaba script, i feel less ronery in my hobbies now. XD
>>90
I'm not out to pander to your needs, this is a hobby with me, just as much as it is with most of you, don't kid yourselves.
>Oh, and thank you so much for showing me your fuukaba script, i feel less ronery in my hobbies now. XD
No problem ^^. Although I don't know if you meant to say fuukaba, because that in itself is a different script entirely, just based off the futaba code. That script is Gnac's business.
And for those of you interested, I've been working with javascript and I made some interesting changes to the suigintou UI. Nothing ZOMGLOLBBQ INNOVATIVE, but it looks nice.
> If there's one thing Trevor did right with his scripts it was the ability to create multiple boards with one installation, making it easy to create multiple boards.
Actually, no. People create too many boards. They want to run their own 4chan, not their own board, and that's a bad idea. It dilutes participation, and is redudant, and it makes your board die.
The successful boards are pretty much single boards.
I understand what you're getting at. People shouldn't be making more than one or two boards because then they end up duplicating boards that already exist (everybody has a /b/ nowadays) and just end up creating a clone of 2chan or of 4chan.
What I was trying to get at with that statement was that Trevor had a good idea but terribly implemented it. Most people who set out to clone these boards won't stop until they realize it's a bad idea to create 60 boards with one script, but with Trevosuaba they'll hardly ever notice.
Hence why with my script it pretty much just creates a directory and moves the needed board script/directories into it, so eventually they'll realize they have 30 directories of boards, cycling away at their host's CPU with no one posting in hardly any of them. In other words, the board creation function was made for the people who like the wakaba style of installation, but need more than one board and hate duplicating directories via FTP and/or control panel.
No, I mean, I know what the script you're refering to is (it's in fact named fuukaba), but I think you have me mixed up with someone else (Gnac/Ikitsumatatsu) ^^.
>of 2chan
I mean the Futaba Channel, just to clear up any confusion that might cause in the future.
Also note, I redid the board structure on my scripts so it's easier to update multiple boards at once. I've sort of moved away from the one-script-per-board model as it indeed was getting to be unbearable to manage, like Cudder so aptly illustrated above. Each board now calls upon the same set of scripts to give them their skin, instead of each board having it's own cluttered into one script. A config script is also included for single board modifications, like the title, manager mode password, etc. As such, you only have to make your edits to the skin scripts and then just rebuild the boards' caches, unlike originally making you apply the modifications to every single board first.
Not that anybody here really cares, but still, thought that I might as well keep posted.
And if I may say so myself the script performs a decent amount quicker than it has...probably since I started working on it. Also noticed it cycles the CPU less and is taking up less server-space than it did before (obviously).
Alright, now I'm done with my spamming.
Yes, arranging the css files and stuff like that with the config file is a big step towards making it all so much easier.
Might as well take advantage of what's there to take advantage of, I mean, they didn't come up with the idea of putting all those variables into a file included in each script for nothing, you know...
Anything that saves excessive work in updating a site is w00ty, regardless of how few or how many boards you have.
An aside on that subject: I do agree with !WAHa.06x36 about too many sites having too many unnecessary/redundant/already-done-to-death boards... I had a guy on my board asking for advice about his site, and he didn't seem to understand through multiple posts that all I was telling him to do was to have one news board instead of seven of them... I mean, come on, boards have threads for a reason, there's no need to make a board for each category of something that could be just fine occupying one board.
I think that the first thing that happens to anyone who gets ahold of a script for making multiple boards is that they immediately try to make 60 boards so they'll look all big and wonderful, and then they wind up with 59 boards to watch over for spam and cp, and nobody posts anything worthwhile because it's just a big empty site and no one will get anything out of their post. So, all these huge new sites get is people seeing a big empty wall to vandalize, as it were.
My friend's site has an image board for its main topic, a random board just for stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else, a text board for discussion, and an oekaki board for drawing. Four boards is enough for all of their needs.
My site is a single text board, it's all I need.
I really think that when people build hueg sites in their attempts to replace 4chan, all they're doing is making more clutter on the net, and I don't think they realize that 4chan became so big BECAUSE there weren't so many sites like it. You can't build an empty mega-mall and expect people to shop there, let alone come back.
4chan's patched Shiichan code has been released upon world4ch /prog/ for a while now but you can snatch it at:
http://mihd.net/8ivnguj
http://massmirror.com/bc62b34134b56724154c77d2b89f61cb.html
Nobody's mentioned img0ch, it's the script used on nico nico douga's text boards. I think one of my sorta side projects for this semester will be taking a stab at translating it.
I thought img0ch was mentioned, but meh, maybe my memory is just terrible.
Either way I hope you find the time to translate it. Good luck, etc.
Also, side note, I'm currently getting shafted by my host so until that stops I won't be able to upload the new version of my script that, well, fixes things and implements things, to be completely straightfoward. In other words, you might as well not even bother going to the webserver.
Makoto, I've got room for you if you need it.
Drop by PyoChan sometime and tell me what you need.
Hope you're prepared for a bunch of retards sticking their ass in your face for it. All you have to do is enjoy translating software, and they all come out talking shit about how you're not giving them something original.
>>107
There are enough english futaba translations floating around on the internet that give the same features. If you're going to bother making another one, you mind-as-well give new features to offer. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
>>105
I happen to be having hosting problems too...
My script (s0) doesn't have any provision for creating boards through the browser, you have to use FTP and edit text files. The global script does handle the post requests for all the boards though.
>>103,99,98
From looking through the sites listed at the Overchan, most of them seem to follow the same theme: random, anime, porn, more anime, news/events, even more anime, and more porn. Is this just because of the demographic? Looking at 2ch, it has a board for pretty much any topic, and they're all rather active. My site has (well... had for the moment) Hardware Analysis and Reverse Engineering boards, which I haven't seen at any other sites on the o/ch, and yet they remain pretty inactive. From this I gather the English "channer" demographic seems to be pretty much concentrated on porn and anime...
That's how most people I've met who use image boards got into using image boards. 4chan's mascot is a manga character, I mean, think about it.
I still can't believe people on 4chan act like it's a wapanese invasion or something all the time, I mean, the whole site was made by people who wanted to "talk about anime."
I think it just goes with the culture, like furfags and cats.
>My site has (well... had for the moment) Hardware Analysis and Reverse Engineering boards, which I haven't seen at any other sites on the o/ch, and yet they remain pretty inactive.
Stuff like that is too specific topic for a board, IMHO. All of that can be covered in /code/ and /prog/, which is probably why you aren't getting alot of traffic.
>>111
unrelated to the topic of diversity of boards the site also got a bad name with the /code/ and /prog/ types after some botched promotional threads. what i'm trying to say is that rechan isn't the best example of a "unique" board because luck has worked against the site just too much.
That and their board software doesn't work very well.
Thanks, I had some backup serverspace on another (free >.>) host that I'm using, but if I'm ever in a need of hosting again I'll make sure to hit you up.
I released v2.5 of suigintou, this is probably the only release that I actually could even consider endorsing using, as the others, well, are lacking in a lot of convenient functions. Things that I included in 2.5 like reflink parsing, noko, being able to post text only replies without having to tick an "omg I'm not posting an image" checkbox, auto-linking, no longer required passwords, name/e-mail field remembered by javascript cookies, etc. I'm currently shacking up over at http://dataloss.110mb.com and I hope they don't shaft me as well.
I'm going to agree with this guy to an extent. Rechan probably would've gotten a lot more activity if /code/ and /prog/ had recepted the threads better, but eh, what are you going to do?...except, try to do your best to get traffic flowing, I guess.
None the less, a completely POSIX compliant OS handed into the public domain does sound like an extremely interesting topic, at least for the moment, but that's besides the point entirely.