The Legendary Next Update (365)
216 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-21 15:04 ID:Heaven
> multi-page links (1-, 101-, 201-, etc) at the top of subpages
This is just implemented on some 0ch types. 2channel doesn't use it (at least on no board that I know of).
278 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 18:02 ID:Heaven
Text Art's description about auto-linking URLs and >> references is redundant. Not a bad solution with the layout, though (hiding the menu behind "More options..." still bugs me).
154 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 13:28 ID:1l2MEdqn
>5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
This is kinda what I had pushed for earlier in >>52. I think that separating the sage (aka, "don't bump"), fusianasan (aka, "show IP"), and ID:Heaven (aka, "no ID") functions from any particular post elements in the main scripts would be ideal for implementing Kareha in systems where inputting a certain string to trigger these functions is not intuitive (ie, every board outside of the 2ch/Futaba family). These trigger strings (S_DONTBUMP, S_SHOWIP, S_NOID) and their assignment to a certain form field input could be instead implemented individually in each template.
>2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
>3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
As I mentioned above, this would better work if they could be modified within each template in the list of string variable definitions.
>4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
I like this one, as far as saving name and e-mail inputs go. I occasionally browse 4-ch at school, and it'd be nice for just an option to clear cookies when you're done and don't want anyone else to use your name, e-mail, and deletion password.
What the hell is RENZOKU?
P.S. >>151 is RMS
154 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 13:28 ID:1l2MEdqn
>5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
This is kinda what I had pushed for earlier in >>52. I think that separating the sage (aka, "don't bump"), fusianasan (aka, "show IP"), and ID:Heaven (aka, "no ID") functions from any particular post elements in the main scripts would be ideal for implementing Kareha in systems where inputting a certain string to trigger these functions is not intuitive (ie, every board outside of the 2ch/Futaba family). These trigger strings (S_DONTBUMP, S_SHOWIP, S_NOID) and their assignment to a certain form field input could be instead implemented individually in each template.
>2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
>3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
As I mentioned above, this would better work if they could be modified within each template in the list of string variable definitions.
>4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
I like this one, as far as saving name and e-mail inputs go. I occasionally browse 4-ch at school, and it'd be nice for just an option to clear cookies when you're done and don't want anyone else to use your name, e-mail, and deletion password.
What the hell is RENZOKU?
P.S. >>151 is RMS
66 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 06:43 ID:MhkvoqyU
/-100 shows the first post two times.
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2005-10-20 11:10 ID:Heaven
> Another topic: since dynamic pages eat up CPU in order to rebuild pages according to URL parameters, what would be the likelihood of the current dynamic thread subpages having a significantly adverse effect in this aspect if a board were to grow to 2ch-sized proportions?
The effect would be miniscule in comparison to the huge increase in bandwidth that would result from sending the entire static thread pages.
The "entire thread" link can easily be changes to link to the files in /res/ instead of going through the script, but that would make it somewhat less convenient when you want to consturct custom URLs, so I haven't done it.
> Also, let's put out a partition to kill secure tripcodes (unless they originated from 0ch/Futaba)
Why? Even if 0ch or Futaba implemented secure tripcodes, you wouldn't get the same secure tripcode there as on another board. That's the nature of the security.
> captcha (until we find a way to implement similar functionality without requiring it in the form of a GIF/PNG image)
That's even more non-sensical. Nobody on the entire internet has figured out a reasonable way to implement captcha except by using images, and the only boards that use them are image boards where you have to load images anyway. And finally, they aren't just there to annoy you, people do actually try to flood boards, and they are stopped by the captcha.
> And is there any practical way that Kareha can be modified to run multiple (even nested) boards in a single installation?
Not without doing a lot of changes throughout the code, and not without breaking current installations.
310 Name: 309 : 2005-10-24 15:51 ID:Heaven
And my post ist a good example for chosing the wrong markup :/
314 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-24 19:40 ID:0dCD+kFU
I vote yes, but that is obvious isn't it?
285 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 18:38 ID:Heaven
HTML mode handles >> references, but not URLs because I've been too lazy to figure out a regexp that would handle that correctly. Also, yes, newlines are converted to <br /> intentionally. This matches how most sites that accept HTML markup work.
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350 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-28 03:57 ID:Heaven
> Does the CSS selector -really- get in your way?
> Is having the More options thing really ruining your experience,
Yes and yes and I already stated why.
I am sure you know this but text markup takes place on a whole different level than identification/bumping issues. Your comment about pgp signatures is very funny but I will not honour it with a comment.
321 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-26 09:17 ID:SjmelPTB
About rel=nofollow: What links should have it? Obviously not the "entire thread" link, but the l50 links in the thread list sort of need it, otherwise the search engine will never find them in the first place. But that means the l50 links will end up in the index.
236 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-21 22:34 ID:Heaven
In mode_image: shouldn't the board title be in <h1>, and the post headers in <h2>?
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86 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 12:33 ID:Heaven
> The Title field should go above the Name and Link fields in 2ch mode.
Why should it?
> From every practical standpoint, the current solution in Kareha is a lot more convenient
It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
> Futaba now uses "..." instead of ">>>" to prefix repy blocks.
Any idea why?
75 Name: 74 2005-10-17 08:41 ID:Heaven
> 2channel does not do this either by default. It can make browsing a bit more convenient (and I suspect dedicated 2channel browsers to insert & read these in some kind of standardized way) but I don't think that's reason enough to impose it on users by default.
whoops, I misread "postcount" as "posticon". Nevermind!
169 Name: 2005-10-19 19:04 ID:Heaven
How come this is now the by far biggest thread on this board?
Maybe it's because I'm posting useless replies like this one!
29 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 00:40 ID:Heaven
Funky, works... I am pretty sure the error has something to do with the characters preceeding the "¦" in the unprocessed tripcode. It begins with a "`"
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66 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 06:43 ID:MhkvoqyU
/-100 shows the first post two times.
16 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-13 06:02 ID:Heaven
> Also: I just noticed that "¦" in tripcodes will work correctly but turn into "�U" through the cookie on /soc/ but not on the sandbox.
This might have been worded a bit akwardly. What I meant was: Tricodes work fine with ¦ on both the sandbox and /soc/&/sup/, although the latter boards will strangely turn the ¦ into a U? after the reply button was hit.
338 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-27 05:06 ID:Heaven
> I don't understand the argument for OH NO ANOTHER BUTTON MY WHOLE LIFE IS RUINNED crowd
It's all a design & layout question. I'd like to have the interface reduced to what is absolutely neccessary, esp. since I do not think many people really want to even bother or bother very often with the whole markup question.
> The replacement will be an option to select the default markup for a board, which makes much more sense overall.
I agree, this seems to make the most sense. I understand the "More options..." will not be showing up on boards with fixed settings, so I'll shut my mouth from now on. Apologies to all who I've been bothering.
142 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 22:44 ID:Heaven
The Futaba template is missing the "No File" checkbox next to the File field in the Post New Thread area.
75 Name: 74 2005-10-17 08:41 ID:Heaven
> 2channel does not do this either by default. It can make browsing a bit more convenient (and I suspect dedicated 2channel browsers to insert & read these in some kind of standardized way) but I don't think that's reason enough to impose it on users by default.
whoops, I misread "postcount" as "posticon". Nevermind!