The Legendary Next Update (365)
180 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 06:32 ID:Heaven
>>178
There will always be pranksters around. This is probably a good example on what matters to trust tripcoders more than anonymous contributors.
Trivia: Here is a list of 2ch kopipe to fool people into using fusianasan:
http://ansitu.xrea.jp/guidance/?fusianasan
291 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 19:54 ID:Heaven
294 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 20:38 ID:Heaven
You don't see the link to the WakabaMark page either?
> I am just guessing here, but I am pretty sure most people will only change their settings in very rare cases.
I just added the Text Art mode so that people could post AA on any board and have it work right, but the only way for that to work is if you can quickly change modes between posts.
Look, it's getting just a tiny bit annoying with the complaining. I've been putting a huge amount of effort into making this work well both for those who want markup and those who don't. If you don't like it, you turn it off and don't need to bother with it again. There's just a tiny little link there to let people do this. Is this really a such a huge bother to deal with? It's *two words*.
289 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 19:40 ID:Heaven
Return links are actually not a very good idea. I know some browsers will clear all input fields if you follow a link back to the page you came from, but leave the fields intact if you click the back button.
282 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 18:24 ID:Heaven
I'm not sure. On the one hand, people expect that to work. On the other hand, it can be a bit annoying. On the third hand, it's not all that annoying anyway.
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2005-10-21 17:12 ID:Heaven
That would be a bother too.
188 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 11:10 ID:Heaven
> partition to kill secure tripcodes
signed
> add functionality for multiple uploads in one post.
I think this was decided against before.
114 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 03:16 ID:Heaven
>>110
Happened to me, too, sometimes it goes black, sometimes it goes white. Screen reappears if you just scroll up a bit but it's still strange.
308 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-24 15:37 ID:hjzD4Li4
Also, can you make >> links into anchors('#') when you're on the reply/entire thread page, especially in Wakaba? Currently when you click the link it just reloads the page with a different highlight, which is not all that helpful.
66 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 06:43 ID:MhkvoqyU
/-100 shows the first post two times.
329 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-26 20:01 ID:Heaven
>You need to explain what you're talking about before I can do anything about that.?
See attached screenshot. It's in every style but Pseud0ch.
>No. I'm too lazy to figure what that's supposed to do, and I don't think anybody actually wants to use that in the first place.
Well the functionality is already in kareha.pl, right? All you need is some modifications to the mode_message template. You can check out the 2ch-like boards on Futaba for reference, though I'm pretty sure I've seen other 2ch-like boards that implement multi-paged functionality with a different layout. Personally, it isn't all that big a deal if it's just a template issue though.
>There's no database to keep IP data in, and I'd prefer to keep the script completely agnostic to IP addresses.
No need for a database, just a text file. You're right about storing IPs, though, but then how can you implement a banning system? Do you use an encrypted IP like the algorithm to generate ID codes?
>No, because I don't know what you mean.
I mean that (for example) if I wanted to replace the permasaging function under the MAX_POSTS condition (permasage after X posts) with the thread-closing function (close after X posts), all it would require is a simple replacement of the proper function references in post_stuff(), correct?
>(optional) preview page
Excessive, methinks.
>Is there a reason why the post box is so small and pushed to the side?
Because mode_message is modeled after the 0ch layout. To compensate for the smallness, it expands automatically when you click inside it.
>Forced fusianasan would be fine I think, if they had advanced warning.
This can be easily done manually with rules.html
37 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 13:32 ID:Heaven
Oops, forgot to link the first point to my original thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127326007
Oh, and see if dmpk2k is willing to port over the proxy detection and load-balancing/distributed server cluster functions to Kareha. Those would be neat.
170 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 19:23 ID:Heaven
>There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage".
How about "dontbump" or "nobump"? Using "down" is pretty misleading, since sage doesn't bump a thread up nor down; it just stays in its place until a thread below is bumped.
>>167 orz
In reference WAHa's post in http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127713568/l50
>It's been suggested to change the no-ID-on-email to no-ID-on-sage
That sounds good to me.
354 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-28 18:01 ID:Heaven
Gah, I am totally confused about what to do about the admin interface. Separate script? Built-in? Javascript? How do I display the data? I have no idea!
189 Name: 2005-10-20 11:10 ID:Heaven
> Another topic: since dynamic pages eat up CPU in order to rebuild pages according to URL parameters, what would be the likelihood of the current dynamic thread subpages having a significantly adverse effect in this aspect if a board were to grow to 2ch-sized proportions?
The effect would be miniscule in comparison to the huge increase in bandwidth that would result from sending the entire static thread pages.
The "entire thread" link can easily be changes to link to the files in /res/ instead of going through the script, but that would make it somewhat less convenient when you want to consturct custom URLs, so I haven't done it.
> Also, let's put out a partition to kill secure tripcodes (unless they originated from 0ch/Futaba)
Why? Even if 0ch or Futaba implemented secure tripcodes, you wouldn't get the same secure tripcode there as on another board. That's the nature of the security.
> captcha (until we find a way to implement similar functionality without requiring it in the form of a GIF/PNG image)
That's even more non-sensical. Nobody on the entire internet has figured out a reasonable way to implement captcha except by using images, and the only boards that use them are image boards where you have to load images anyway. And finally, they aren't just there to annoy you, people do actually try to flood boards, and they are stopped by the captcha.
> And is there any practical way that Kareha can be modified to run multiple (even nested) boards in a single installation?
Not without doing a lot of changes throughout the code, and not without breaking current installations.
120 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 04:30 ID:Heaven
And this:
だってよ。
231 ：ひろゆき ◆3SHRUNYAXA ＠どうやら管理人 ★：04/02/05 14:13 ID:???
ハンマー投げゲーム機能つけてみました。
名前の欄に『murofusianasan』と書き込めば
【６０ｍ】とか【７５ｍ】とか記録が出ます。
数値はランダムで０～１００くらいまでありますよ。。。
お暇なら遊んでください。
33 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-10-14 05:01 ID:gBva8ggI
Your browser momentarily regressed to an old bug and then got better? Who can tell?
Running in pure perl would be ideal, portability-wise, but in practice implementing a JPEG loader and saver from scratch in Perl is both a lot more work than anyone wants to do, and the result will also be too slow.
As was already stated, making a statically linked executable lets you distribute pre-compiled binaries that people can just upload along with the script.
287 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 19:25 ID:Heaven
Oh, and the navigation bar on the error page should probably look like the one on the thread page.
95 Name: 2005-10-17 14:09 ID:gBva8ggI
Also, I forgot to mention: fusianasan works now! Put it in as your name to test it!
37 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 13:32 ID:Heaven
Oops, forgot to link the first point to my original thread: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127326007
Oh, and see if dmpk2k is willing to port over the proxy detection and load-balancing/distributed server cluster functions to Kareha. Those would be neat.
273 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 16:34 ID:Heaven
Oh, and "AA mode" should be changed to "Text art mode" so we won't be incessantly quibbling about the difference between ASCII and SJIS art.
1 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-10-12 15:51 ID:gBva8ggI
So, as Xee is almost done, and I'm mostly waiting for external contributions, I decided it was time to start working on the Legendary Next Update for Kareha and Wakaba.
Only problem is, it's been a long time, and I've forgotten most of what needs to be done. Most of it is mentioned SOMEWHERE on the board, though. So this is your chance to pipe up with your pet feature request, or if you're feeling really helpful, to dig out some old posts that mention things that need fixing.
Hop to it!
215 Name: 214 2005-10-21 15:03 ID:Heaven
Whoops, sorry. I read "close" instead of "permasage".
Permasage on filesize seems pretty silly, yes.
88 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 12:39 ID:Heaven
>Why should it?
Because it's one of the two requirements for creating a new thread, and it's a lot more important to have a well-defined topic than to fill in your name.
>It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
Good point.
>Any idea why?
I dunno. I guess it's just another one of Futaba's countless layout quirks.
204 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-10-20 22:43 ID:Heaven
> the entire server occasionally breaks
Occasionally?
Well, that might be it, except that on world4ch at least one board breaks every week, if not more. Incidentally, as of this writing, 4chan's /dis/ and /sug/ are also toast (third time this month?).
As it is, I can't recall ever seeing kareha break.
112 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 20:40 ID:UAOHJNRy
>>108
fusianasan is a voluntary function to show identity without having to memorize a tripcode. Works on all boards. Reveals your IP, of course...
Another feature I'd like is keyboard shortcuts like Wikipedia. Although you'd have to avoid stuff like Alt-D.
160 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 14:51 ID:Heaven
>>157
So the functions need to be hardcoded to a post element one way or another? If I wanted to, let's say, create a template for gazo-box or Shiichan (both use checkboxes for sage), I'd need to slightly modify kareha.pl to check that new checkbox input instead of the Link string input?
An interesting limitation. Thanks for explaining.
About permasaging/deleting after a certain thread filesize is reached: would this be the same as a limit on the total number of characters in a thread? Or would we also include WakabaMark formatting, hyperlinks (including navigation), name/date/title headers, reply boxes, and non-Unicode characters in the formula?
>>158
Chances are that most if not all major/fundamental changes made to Kareha's core scripts will clash with the philosophy of most people here (including WAHa), and they won't care for them anyway. There really aren't all that many big-bang end-user features left to be implemented in Kareha before it loses its minimalist charm.
P.S. Reminder for >>85