Well, there are some issues to consider here:
In the end, people actually enjoy the 0ch quirkiness. I know I do. I know about designing good interfaces, but there's something fun about an interface that is a little bit quirky, as long as it doesn't get in your way, and these things don't.
Text Art's description about auto-linking URLs and >> references is redundant. Not a bad solution with the layout, though (hiding the menu behind "More options..." still bugs me).
>>74
The comma range separator is useful for anchoring a certain post range to the first post (ie, "1,-100"), but that's all I can really think of. Still, I appreciate such a degree of flexibility.
And this:
だってよ。
231 :ひろゆき ◆3SHRUNYAXA @どうやら管理人 ★:04/02/05 14:13 ID:???
ハンマー投げゲーム機能つけてみました。
名前の欄に『murofusianasan』と書き込めば
【60m】とか【75m】とか記録が出ます。
数値はランダムで0~100くらいまでありますよ。。。
お暇なら遊んでください。
> statically linked executable
I have to disagree with this. It should run in perl too.
>>n74,76
It's good for referencing replies, too.
The "always show the first post" behaviour is sort of confusing at first. It seems more intrusive than useful.
>>63
Nevermind, the issues seem to have resolved themselves within the hour of the new version being uploaded.
More stuff:
To more closely resemble the 2ch look, how about prefixing thread title headers in the main board page with a 【position:postcount】thingie?
And as suggested before, the navigation links on the bottom of individual thread pages should include "Previous 100" (ie, all posts before the first post in the URL) and "Next 100" (ie, all posts after the last post in the URL). Of course, this could get screwy if you're using reverse order and out-of-order posts in the URL, so I dunno how well it could be implemented.
The "First 100" link should also be removed from the bottom of individual thread pages, and there should be a link to to thread-list included below the reply box of each previewed thread on the front page.
Bonus:
Change "Del" links to widget buttons.
In order for the CSS selector not to take over the entire header, how about turning it into a drop-down menu? The same could be done with the Admin functions (appearing only after one correctly inputs the password), placing it on the right side of the board and thread title headers (this would also allow admins the convenience of deleting and permasaging threads from the front-page).
and would something like this work (given that all boards share the same root directory)?
>>>>sup/1129153864/1-100
>>>1129153864/1-100
P.S. When you mentioned serving dynamic pages in >>46, were you referring to individual thread pages? As I mentioned before, it'd be nice to make the front page as dynamic and flexible as thread pages when it comes to viewing options (via PATH_INFO).
So, does that mean you approve of removing the style selector on subpages? I just woke up and I'm confused.
Anyway, Safari doesn't, as far as I know, let you pick stylesheets. And IE obviously doesn't. Also, not even Firefox will actually remember your choice, making the ability completely useless anyway, unless coupled with Javascript on the page to save the setting.
> The Futaba template is missing the "No File" checkbox next to the File field in the Post New Thread area.
That's because Kareha has no "No File" check in the first place, and I'm not sure I want to add code just for that (since it'd have to be optional anyway).
Thanks for the links at the top. Previously, I had to search for those threads over and over again if I wanted to find them.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Isn't that already an option in the config?
> 5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
Strong oppose! I am of the (strong! lol) opinion that the current situation is the one working the best and also that it is widely accepted on almost all similiar board scripts (save for Shiichan and one obscure Japanese discussion board script that I once stumbled upon).
Previous discussion of this can be found here:
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1102984488/
Also, I'd like to ask exactly how Kareha does automatically generates deletion passwords. I'm guessing it's similar if not identical to how it creates ID session codes with a user's IP.
> The "entire thread" link can easily be changes to link to the files in /res/ instead of going through the script, but that would make it somewhat less convenient when you want to consturct custom URLs, so I haven't done it.
A better solution would be to use mod_rewrite to rewrite all /kareha.pl/$number/ links to /res/$number.html
It schould be a lot faster then running the script and the links stay the same.
This my just be me, but I'd like a link to the entire thread in karaha at the top of threads.
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1099697376/101-101
(First "Next 100" link) does not include >>1 in that thread
There's also some weird bug where the entire browser windowd content goes black, dunno what that is about...
>Why should it?
Because it's one of the two requirements for creating a new thread, and it's a lot more important to have a well-defined topic than to fill in your name.
>It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
Good point.
>Any idea why?
I dunno. I guess it's just another one of Futaba's countless layout quirks.
> Pruning set to furthest-back instead of oldest.
I don't like this one. You just have to continually age a topic (until it hits the permasage treshold) in order for it so survive a long time. Normal users might have good reason to ignore simply it, though...
> Size limit instead of post number limit, maybe?
Sounds good.
> I was thinking of setting the default behaviour to never permasage or close threads.
I guess I don't have a strong opinion on this one. As long as the values will be customizable, I don't really care, I suppose.
Also: I just noticed that "¦" in tripcodes will work correctly but turn into "�U" through the cookie on /soc/ but not on the sandbox.
>>Well, then you are out of luck, aren't you? So you want to enter your E-Mail but cannot because then the post wouldn't bump then? Solution: Write it in the comment field, problem fixed.
There is no reason to change well-known keywords for this or even turn this into a frustratingly unconvenient tickbox/checkbox.
Having a specific trigger to trigger ID would also work.
>discussion of only one comment box, then you couldn't talk about sage/fusianasan/whatever
You could only trigger the functions in a specific format, say
:link-sage
:name-blah#faggotlol commentI do not believe this was an actual request, but it is obviously possible and usable. Another way would be escaping keywords that you want to post.
> partition to kill secure tripcodes
Why? If you are going to get rid of secure tripcodes you should get rid of tripcodes by the same reasons. On another note, why have I seen partition instead of petition multiple times?
>So I misspelled one word once. Sue me!
My point was that it is unnesessarily obtuse, not nit-picking that you misspelled it.
>This is a widely used system. There is a very low learning curve here. sage = does not bump thread when replying, that's all there is to know. People can then figure out why it is useful on their own.
You would think there is a low learning curve, but that is not really the case. For example, on an imageboard, what effect do you have making a sage post (with no real content) with prune oldest and a permasage limit? What about prune oldest with a permasage limit that excludes sage replies?
>trigger replacements
I'm not sure what to replace sage with, if anything. Down certainly doesn't describe it (to me it implies the reverse of age, which is not the case). don't_bump or dont_bump? show_host or show_ip works for fusianasan imo... show_ID to trigger ID?
I found this:
fusianasan【ふしあなさん】[名・自スル]
2ちゃんねるに書き込みする際に名前欄に「fusianasan」の文字列を入力すると、その書き込みをした人のリモートホストのIPアドレスがさらされるようになっている。
本来は「(固定ハンドル)@fusianasan」などとして、まだキャップを取得していない固定ハンドルが自らIPをさらすことで騙りを防ぐためのシステムである。
が、裏2ちゃん関係のコピペが横行するに至って、一時期うっかりIPをさらしてしまう。
エロな人間が続出し、fusianasan廃止要望まで唱えられるに至った(当然却下されたが)。
IPをさらすことだけによる危険は、そのIPから手元で使用中のコンピュータを一意に特定でき
(ex:グローバルIPによる常時接続)、かつプロキシ・サーバー、ファイヤーウォールなどの防御策を怠っている場合にしか及ばないので、
fusianasanに引っかかったからといって実はそこまで神経質になることもなかったりする。
……過去にIPから仕事中に政府機関から2ちゃんねるにつないで裏2ちゃんに入ろうとしていた愚か者が釣れてさらされたという事例はあるが。
なお、現在では一部の板でデフォルトの名無しさん(名前欄未記入時の名前)が「fusianasanさん」などfusianasanを含む名前となっている場合がある。
また、串の性能を試すために敢えて裏2ちゃんに引っかかっていると思われる強者もちらほら見受けられる。
類義語:mokorikomo
参照:裏2ちゃん、キャップ
On second thought, the whole search idea was pretty poor...but could you implement saging in a way that's independent of any particular post element, and is instead assigned in the individual templates?
> It would eliminate the concept of sageing as a protest entirely.
Except that nobody knows what's going on back-end.
I like the idea though.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Isn't that already an option in the config?
> 5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
Strong oppose! I am of the (strong! lol) opinion that the current situation is the one working the best and also that it is widely accepted on almost all similiar board scripts (save for Shiichan and one obscure Japanese discussion board script that I once stumbled upon).
Previous discussion of this can be found here:
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1102984488/
A 1001th post would be a bother.
> people like admins might prefer to use them
but they have capcodes now...
> More information on the all threads page, date of the last post? file size?
That might be somewhat useful, I suppose. I'll have a look at it.
> A quote button that puts >>n and puts the post prefixed by > in the reply box
There's already a way to put in >>n. However, quoting an entire post is seldom something you want to do anyway, so I don't think that's worth cluttering up the page with a million buttons for.
> Different secret strings for different functions (e.g. one for ID generation and one for secure tripcodes)
Most admins probably don't get point of the secret string anyway, and asking them to put in several is just too annoying. In retrospect, I'd like to add a second layer of hashing to these, but that'd mean breaking secure trips AGAIN.
> A trigger for turning wakabamark off and one for forcing a monospace font
I've been trying to work out a more elegant solution for this.