The Legendary Next Update (365)
17 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-10-13 06:16 ID:ReFmOAs0
Yes, it's throwing Javascript errors for me if I use that character. Gonna look into that some more.
170 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 19:23 ID:Heaven
>There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage".
How about "dontbump" or "nobump"? Using "down" is pretty misleading, since sage doesn't bump a thread up nor down; it just stays in its place until a thread below is bumped.
>>167 orz
In reference WAHa's post in http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127713568/l50
>It's been suggested to change the no-ID-on-email to no-ID-on-sage
That sounds good to me.
161 Name: 148 2005-10-19 16:30 ID:0dCD+kFU
RENZOKU are the flood detection things... even if they are useless MAX_POSTS_PER_MINUTE makes a lot more sense than RENZOKU2
3) was about a string to trigger ID:Heaven, not a constant for the Heaven part (which is already configurable)
Re: email/link field
Just because it works one way on 2ch/whatever does not mean it is the best way. Having 'fusianasan' as the only way to trigger the effect is just narrow-minded. Functions should have descriptive names to the people using them; should we keep the field names in Japanese because the Japanese have them in Japanese? Having all of the applicable things configurable is something that makes sense, and you can easily have both 'fusianasan' and 'show_ip' that work at the same time. Frankly, the combinations of many things into unrelated fields is a design flaw. What if you want to use a name/trip and fusianasan? What if your email address contains the string 'sage'? What if you want to sage a thread, but have an ID still?
I think the confusion of existing users is worth reducing the learning curve and improving the intuitiveness.
I'm not saying that the default behaviour needs to change, but being able to easily configure the strings used allows for easier localization.
I probably misspelled fusianasan too, why should I have to remember something so foreign?
34 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 12:36 ID:hjzD4Li4
Tell me more about these pre-compiled binaries. I thought that was impractical...I mean, instruction set differences and so on.
148 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 08:12 ID:0dCD+kFU
Some minor things
1) rename the RENZOKU constants to something that makes sense
2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
I think a checkbox works better than putting something in the link field, but that can always be left as working too. It would be nice to know if the name is underlined that it has something other than sage rather than putting the cursor over it and reading the status bar. Strip things from the email field, append (sage) to the Name line?
20 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-10-13 12:03 ID:gBva8ggI
I can't reproduce this on Firefox 1.0.4 nor Safari on the Mac, but that ancient Firebird had a similar problem (but even worse).
Anyone else? Try post with a | in your name.
160 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 14:51 ID:Heaven
>>157
So the functions need to be hardcoded to a post element one way or another? If I wanted to, let's say, create a template for gazo-box or Shiichan (both use checkboxes for sage), I'd need to slightly modify kareha.pl to check that new checkbox input instead of the Link string input?
An interesting limitation. Thanks for explaining.
About permasaging/deleting after a certain thread filesize is reached: would this be the same as a limit on the total number of characters in a thread? Or would we also include WakabaMark formatting, hyperlinks (including navigation), name/date/title headers, reply boxes, and non-Unicode characters in the formula?
>>158
Chances are that most if not all major/fundamental changes made to Kareha's core scripts will clash with the philosophy of most people here (including WAHa), and they won't care for them anyway. There really aren't all that many big-bang end-user features left to be implemented in Kareha before it loses its minimalist charm.
P.S. Reminder for >>85
92 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-10-17 14:00 ID:Heaven
This my just be me, but I'd like a link to the entire thread in karaha at the top of threads.
260 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-22 16:20 ID:Heaven
This is the obligatory encoding test ... in <code>
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Ｕ .Ｕ 198 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 16:35 ID:Heaven
> but when I hit refresh I get the same order.
Browser cache. Try shift-refresh.
It doesn't take a specific range, just >>r30 for 30 random posts.
332 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-26 20:28 ID:y5Ya7L3/
>>323-324
The 2channel moderation request forms that are mods of 0ch use 強制リモホ, which is Forced_Remote_Host, more or less. And it makes sense, there.
Forced_IP is only enabled on the "Siberia super-news flash" board: http://etc3.2ch.net/siberia/
And I have no idea what that board is about...
59 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-16 21:22 ID:Heaven
I was browsing through some old threads and now they're all gone. :(
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2005-10-16 21:11 ID:gBva8ggI
All right, a beta version with some new features is now installed for this board. It implements a couple of bug fixes, and navigational and 2ch-style improvements suggested in this thread. Try it out, and complain about stuff that doesn't work or doesn't make sense.
I also put in customizable capcodes now. You can define a string of arbitary HTML for the capcode, so you can put whatever kind of fagginess you want in there! Hooray! Try this out by posting with #test.
The good old test thread is still here: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1099697376/
276 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 17:40 ID:Heaven
>>275
Heh, I thought you had disabled it manually.
>The File field is almost never there.
Right, and when it isn't, the Formatting menu can still reside on the same line.
The error page in mode_message should more closely resemble that of 0ch (complete with "ERROR!" title).
165 Name: Shii the Metal Idol 2005-10-19 18:13 ID:z/kxsMjQ
> Huh?
You know, like [email protected].
Shiichan 2000 let you enter "down" to sage and "showip" for fusianasan, but it was mainly just a curiosity and was not used. There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage". Better to have a tick-box and explain to people why it is useful. Or an option for it.
> Then the board has to be configurated to just do that (it already can).
No, 148 is referring to a user-end problem, not a server-end problem.
67 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 06:47 ID:Heaven
The "Entire thread" link on the thread page is missing a "/" at the end.
271 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 16:32 ID:Heaven
Did you ditch customizable capcodes?
How about placing the Formatting menu to the left or right of the "File: " field? I'd also like to see WakabaMark changed to its real name (Markdown).
A few other considerations:
- Using "◆" as the default tripkey character.
- No need for the "Navigation: " text before the navigation links in subpages
- In Pseud0ch, post numbers should be the same size/format as the rest of the header text
- I'm still thinking that subback should be as minimal as possible: no navlinks, title, or last post/filesize data. Then again, I'm from the school of following 0ch blindly.
- Variable admin permissions per password
- Is the Admin bar gonna come back before the final version?
Small details aside, this is seriously shaping up to be an amazing release. Your efforts are much appreciated, WAHa.
357 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-31 11:19 ID:Heaven
>>354
admin.pl with a separate HTML page in ./admin (so it can be accessed simply by appending "/admin" to the board URL). It should have every possible admin feature available in kareha.pl, including rebuilding caches, modifying the spamlist, and nuking the board.
78 Name: 2005-10-17 09:13 ID:Heaven
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> Personally, I find the reverse order listing, as well as the random order listing, to be a bit silly & useless.
Well, no, duh, that's the point. They're jokes.
> The only useful bonus feature here seems to be the comma range seperator, but it seems even in that case there is not much benefit to it (saves 1-3 links in the average case that it is needed, which is rare to begin with).
On the contrary, it's very useful when referring someone to a specific discussion in a thread where several discussions are going on, since you can make a link that only shows the relevant posts. Not just on the board but when linking to threads elsewhere.
75 Name: 74 2005-10-17 08:41 ID:Heaven
> 2channel does not do this either by default. It can make browsing a bit more convenient (and I suspect dedicated 2channel browsers to insert & read these in some kind of standardized way) but I don't think that's reason enough to impose it on users by default.
whoops, I misread "postcount" as "posticon". Nevermind!
165 Name: Shii the Metal Idol 2005-10-19 18:13 ID:z/kxsMjQ
> Huh?
You know, like [email protected].
Shiichan 2000 let you enter "down" to sage and "showip" for fusianasan, but it was mainly just a curiosity and was not used. There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage". Better to have a tick-box and explain to people why it is useful. Or an option for it.
> Then the board has to be configurated to just do that (it already can).
No, 148 is referring to a user-end problem, not a server-end problem.
320 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-25 20:17 ID:Heaven
And maybe this: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1126586277/5