What does Thorn have to do with Kareha? Thorn's counterpart is Wakaba.
Anyway, the version of Shiichan on world4ch is bust. It's not a case of feature versus feature here, Shiichan simply doesn't work. It's not worth comparing until it doesn't break regularly.
If Shii were still working on it might be different, but Shiichan is effectively a dead project which incidentally has a closed and broken version working on world4ch.
> That's what I thought, but then why is it in the Reply pages?
Er, that's a bug I guess.
> 1) rename the RENZOKU constants to something that makes sense
I dunno, they're pretty useless anyway, as has been pointed out, so I don't know if I care enough to change them.
> 2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
I dunno, if different boards use different strings, that will only make for immense confusion.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Well, the only string that makes sense is sage, but yes, I should implement the Heaven-on-sage behaviour.
> 4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
Maybe, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort (I'd have to implement a preferences page for it, too).
>>313 Like lots of people use them anyway </sarcasm>. Yes, security is a good idea. What are the holes, anyway?
> You don't see the link to the WakabaMark page either?
Nope... ?
> There's just a tiny little link there to let people do this. Is this really a such a huge bother to deal with? It's two words.
It's a link, it screams "Click me!". Most people don't need it most of the time, still it'll be there all of the time. How about style:none or something?
And sorry for being annoying. Strong opinions and all, no offense.
/-100 shows the first post two times.
On second thought, the whole search idea was pretty poor...but could you implement saging in a way that's independent of any particular post element, and is instead assigned in the individual templates?
How about adding a link to 2ch in footer.html called "2ch mode"?
Plus if you were to allow those tags in HTML, you should do the same for WakabaMark (which actually takes its cue from Markdown, so I don't see why it has a different name).
>>321
Wait, why should l50 links be indexed/cached? IMO the only links that should be on Google at all are main pages and "entire thread" links.
Some final points (I hope) before the whole thing is wrapped up:
So, I made the All threads page a lot fancier. Might need some shift-reloading to get the proper CSS.
Is this about done, besides the admin bit? I'm getting a bit tired and distractions are looming to the left and right.
Uh, kind of a bug. I really should fix it, but, lazy.
Whoops, sorry. I read "close" instead of "permasage".
Permasage on filesize seems pretty silly, yes.
The one with encoded Javascript that makes you post with fusianasan is cute.
> Red, bold thread filesizes displayed near the bottom of subpages?
I support this, especially if thread-closing by filesize should be implemented.
>>55
I'm not complaining about the current system, just throwing around some new ideas for a change (instead of blindly following whatever new thing comes along on 2ch).
Maybe. I just picked something at random.
> More information on the all threads page, date of the last post? file size?
That might be somewhat useful, I suppose. I'll have a look at it.
> A quote button that puts >>n and puts the post prefixed by > in the reply box
There's already a way to put in >>n. However, quoting an entire post is seldom something you want to do anyway, so I don't think that's worth cluttering up the page with a million buttons for.
> Different secret strings for different functions (e.g. one for ID generation and one for secure tripcodes)
Most admins probably don't get point of the secret string anyway, and asking them to put in several is just too annoying. In retrospect, I'd like to add a second layer of hashing to these, but that'd mean breaking secure trips AGAIN.
> A trigger for turning wakabamark off and one for forcing a monospace font
I've been trying to work out a more elegant solution for this.
> multi-page links (1-, 101-, 201-, etc) at the top of subpages
This is just implemented on some 0ch types. 2channel doesn't use it (at least on no board that I know of).
> Wait, why should l50 links be indexed/cached?
Because the only way for the search engine to find the old threads is to go through the l50 links. I'm taking the advice of >>322 though.
> The CSS in the All threads page is unsightly. Is there a way to properly wrap the outer color border(s) around the table of threads?
You need to explain what you're talking about before I can do anything about that. What style, and what does "wrap the outer color border(s) around" mean?
> I still say that the "Navigation: " text is extraneous when people can clearly see what the links do. Also still partitioning for 0ch-style error pages (with displayed user host and all).
It's there because freefloating unlabelled links look weird.
> Now that we do have filesize indicators in the backlog page of mode_message, do you still find it useless to have the red bold filesizes near the bottom of thread subpages?
They're there, but only if you enable pruning by size.
> Does mode_message now work in PAGE_GENERATION => 'paged'?
No. I'm too lazy to figure what that's supposed to do, and I don't think anybody actually wants to use that in the first place.
> Idea: forced anonymous/sage/ID/fusianasan by IP/thread/board/whole site (some of these combinations already exist, I know)?
There's no database to keep IP data in, and I'd prefer to keep the script completely agnostic to IP addresses.
> Finally, I imagine that the permasage/close/delete functions in kareha.pl will be easily interchangeable among the conditions in post_stuff(). Can you confirm this?
No, because I don't know what you mean.
There are some inconsistencies in both the Blue Moon and Futaba styles, with regard to the size and formatting of text labels in the Create new thread and Reply form areas.
The spacing of the Create new thread title is off in Futaba, Headline, and Toothpaste.
None of the styles that utilize rounded corner borders have them in the Create new thread area.
>>Well, then you are out of luck, aren't you? So you want to enter your E-Mail but cannot because then the post wouldn't bump then? Solution: Write it in the comment field, problem fixed.
There is no reason to change well-known keywords for this or even turn this into a frustratingly unconvenient tickbox/checkbox.
Having a specific trigger to trigger ID would also work.
>discussion of only one comment box, then you couldn't talk about sage/fusianasan/whatever
You could only trigger the functions in a specific format, say
:link-sage
:name-blah#faggotlol commentI do not believe this was an actual request, but it is obviously possible and usable. Another way would be escaping keywords that you want to post.
> partition to kill secure tripcodes
Why? If you are going to get rid of secure tripcodes you should get rid of tripcodes by the same reasons. On another note, why have I seen partition instead of petition multiple times?
>So I misspelled one word once. Sue me!
My point was that it is unnesessarily obtuse, not nit-picking that you misspelled it.
>This is a widely used system. There is a very low learning curve here. sage = does not bump thread when replying, that's all there is to know. People can then figure out why it is useful on their own.
You would think there is a low learning curve, but that is not really the case. For example, on an imageboard, what effect do you have making a sage post (with no real content) with prune oldest and a permasage limit? What about prune oldest with a permasage limit that excludes sage replies?
>trigger replacements
I'm not sure what to replace sage with, if anything. Down certainly doesn't describe it (to me it implies the reverse of age, which is not the case). don't_bump or dont_bump? show_host or show_ip works for fusianasan imo... show_ID to trigger ID?
Gah, I am totally confused about what to do about the admin interface. Separate script? Built-in? Javascript? How do I display the data? I have no idea!
You could add entire thread links to either the "num" or "posts" column in subback.
>>137
I also noticed that you removed the CSS selector in individual thread views. Personally, it seems both the Admin options and Style selector are a bit of a hindrance to the overall layout. Don't get me wrong -- I think the drop-in Style capability is fantastic-- but it just doesn't seem to play nice with the current 2ch page design.
The thing is, don't most or all major browsers these days allow users to change CSS styles from within the application itself? I know Firefox does, at least. Maybe the selector isn't really necessary.