The Legendary Next Update (365)
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197 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 14:02 ID:Heaven
>>196
Actually, a solution to >> links with static pages is to simply make them reference a certain point on a certain page number for that thread (ie, http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/1129153864/index2.html#197).
313 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-24 18:41 ID:Heaven
Well, I don't want to have to read posts without highlighting. It's annoying. Just for that, I don't want leave it off.
On another topic, a vote: I could make the secure tripcodes and other parts of the script that use the SECRET more secure by some small changes, but this would make secure trips change when you install the new version.
Good idea, y/n?
42 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 16:30 ID:Heaven
Forgot this one:
The general functions of imageboards do not seem to be clear to most people that eventually come around, the influx of total newbies is still big. Many neither know what sage is, how to properly reply to threads, what tripcodes are, etc.
Because of that, I believe it would be good to include a default link at the bottom of the unordered list at the bottom of the new thread form that links to http://wakaba.c3.cx/docs/docs.html#UsersGuide
42 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 16:30 ID:Heaven
Forgot this one:
The general functions of imageboards do not seem to be clear to most people that eventually come around, the influx of total newbies is still big. Many neither know what sage is, how to properly reply to threads, what tripcodes are, etc.
Because of that, I believe it would be good to include a default link at the bottom of the unordered list at the bottom of the new thread form that links to http://wakaba.c3.cx/docs/docs.html#UsersGuide
344 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-27 10:34 ID:SjmelPTB
"When they shouldn't be?" They've always been bolded.
285 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 18:38 ID:Heaven
HTML mode handles >> references, but not URLs because I've been too lazy to figure out a regexp that would handle that correctly. Also, yes, newlines are converted to <br /> intentionally. This matches how most sites that accept HTML markup work.
174 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 02:03 ID:Heaven
> Making them configurable from site to site is really dumb, because it would create an unthinkable usability mess.
Why? Let people figure out things themselves, if they are so keen on changing their keywords. They can get together in their own webmaster threads and figure this out. I don't see why this should be solved here.
Of course I think this is a dumb idea in the first place. Nobody needs to know what fusianasan and sage are. Write a FAQ with two sentences about it and/or let your oldtime users tell newbies. Two frickin' words, and you people talk about it as if it were something like making up a new system of romanization!
> Then why not simply boil it all down to the comment field, with trigger strings for inputting the name, e-mail, sage, ID:Heaven, and fusianasan? You can get a lot more minimal with the current interface.
That's a bit too much. You want to talk about sage and fusianasan in the comment field, not trigger it with it.
I suspect you are joking here, though. Design is about what you can take away and still remain optimal conveniency/efficiency on the user part, not about taking as much away as you are technically capable of.
231 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-21 21:04 ID:Heaven
How about adding a link to 2ch in footer.html called "2ch mode"?
93 Name: anon!21anon4H3U 2005-10-17 14:00 ID:Heaven
>>91 Ohshi-, time paradox!
251 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-22 13:00 ID:Heaven
>>249
<a href> opens up the possibility of using inline links, and img tags allow bandwidth leeching from other sites (plus the fact that the image itself may be unsanitary).
280 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 18:15 ID:Heaven
Hmmm, I just noticed you still allow <a> tags, which would let posters use inline links. Are you gonna keep that?
39 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 14:13 ID:Heaven
>>38
Sorry, I guess I should've worded that more clearly. I was referring to the ability for users to delete their own posts. It's counter-productive to discussions when a user deletes his own post and a quick replier later quotes or references it. It also encourages users to be lazy with posting, because they can always go back and hide their mistakes.
3 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-12 16:58 ID:Heaven
Kareha:
- Conforming of navigation to 0ch standards for conveniency, efficiency, etc., i.e.
- Navigation links also at the bottom of the thread pages
- "First 100" to be replaced with "Next 100" (and "Previous 100") in thread pages
- First post always showing up, even for later quoted ranges. Currently, you can supress this on 0ch by identing "n" before the post range.
- Default l50 links in all lists
- Automated archiving, i.e.
- Automatic thread closing at a configured number of replies and/or thread size (recommended default values: 1000 posts or 512KB)
- Automatic closing and moving of threads that do not get any activity in a certain timeframe (based on average activity frequency of the board)
- Bonus features (not really important):
- Fusianasan (reveal hostname by entering fusianasan or [string] into Name field)
- Customizable Capcodes (please more than just "Admin", perhaps fancy colours)
29 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 00:40 ID:Heaven
Funky, works... I am pretty sure the error has something to do with the characters preceeding the "¦" in the unprocessed tripcode. It begins with a "`"
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2005-10-19 08:46 ID:ReFmOAs0
> That's what I thought, but then why is it in the Reply pages?
Er, that's a bug I guess.
> 1) rename the RENZOKU constants to something that makes sense
I dunno, they're pretty useless anyway, as has been pointed out, so I don't know if I care enough to change them.
> 2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
I dunno, if different boards use different strings, that will only make for immense confusion.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Well, the only string that makes sense is sage, but yes, I should implement the Heaven-on-sage behaviour.
> 4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
Maybe, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort (I'd have to implement a preferences page for it, too).
308 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-24 15:37 ID:hjzD4Li4
Also, can you make >> links into anchors('#') when you're on the reply/entire thread page, especially in Wakaba? Currently when you click the link it just reloads the page with a different highlight, which is not all that helpful.
38 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-14 13:56 ID:Heaven
> Thorough search functionality a-la notchan, using PATH_INFO. This might not be possible without implementing a per-post metadata system though.
I think this not something that needs to be part of the software itself.
Besides, Google mostly provides that function just fine with site:blahblahblah.com blah
Also, what is "user deletion"?
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50 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-10-15 19:03 ID:Heaven
First thought: It would eliminate the concept of sageing as a protest entirely.
165 Name: Shii the Metal Idol 2005-10-19 18:13 ID:z/kxsMjQ
> Huh?
You know, like [email protected].
Shiichan 2000 let you enter "down" to sage and "showip" for fusianasan, but it was mainly just a curiosity and was not used. There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage". Better to have a tick-box and explain to people why it is useful. Or an option for it.
> Then the board has to be configurated to just do that (it already can).
No, 148 is referring to a user-end problem, not a server-end problem.
166 Name: 148,161 2005-10-19 18:40 ID:0dCD+kFU
>>> In the end, people actually enjoy the 0ch quirkiness. I know I do. I know about designing good interfaces, but there's something fun about an interface that is a little bit quirky, as long as it doesn't get in your way, and these things don't.
It does get in your way though, I enumerated cases where this is the case (albeit edge cases).
>>>Then just make one post with your name/trip and one with fusianasan and let your ID show up in both.
fusiansan is just intended for rare or special cases anyway, as is the whole subject of identification on anonymous message boards.
You still end up with no way to link the fusianasan post with the name/trip one without IDs enabled (unless the ID method is known and no secret data is used).
>>>It's rarely needed anyway. Also, these things are pretty easy to remember. "sage" and "fusianasan" is all there is, really.
You spelled it fusiansan once.
Also, how is Kahera unrivaled when there are still large sites that are not running it? Shiichan is still on world4ch, Thorn on parts of wakachan for example.
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127713568/l50 is also semi-relevant
89 Name: 2005-10-17 13:10 ID:gBva8ggI
> Also, I'd like to ask exactly how Kareha does automatically generates deletion passwords. I'm guessing it's similar if not identical to how it creates ID session codes with a user's IP.
Actually, no, the Javascript just strings some random numbers and letters together.
> Because it's one of the two requirements for creating a new thread, and it's a lot more important to have a well-defined topic than to fill in your name.
But the body text is even more important, and that goes at the bottom. So I dunno.
>It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
Would it maybe make sense to make a separate thread creation page?