The Legendary Next Update (365)
283 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 18:25 ID:Heaven
358 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-31 12:45 ID:QLQI2pST
...and admin posts that override all board/thread restrictions (ie, bumping a permasaged thread and possibly even posting in closed threads).
141 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-10-18 20:42 ID:Heaven
> Also, I couldn't be arsed to fix Amber, since it was just a joke in the first place.
Booo!
> who here finds enough use in the auto-expanding comment box to justify the annoyances when you click in or out of it?
I love that feature. Please don't remove it!
> I think the drop-in Style capability is fantastic-- but it just doesn't seem to play nice with the current 2ch page design.
plz 2 be keeping that feature too
259 Name: coda 2005-10-22 15:01 ID:1jzeBBcT
the text
c < dcauses a <d> tag to be opened, which is not on the list, and therefore all the text until the next tag will be deleted. a better behavior in this case would be to just convert that < to <. you even ought to do this for
a < btoo, despite the fact that b is a valid tag, because who the hell leaves the closing angle bracket out of their HTML tag?
creating the correct regexes for this is an exercise left to the reader.
73 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 08:21 ID:Heaven
>>71
forgot to add that turning the CSS selector and Admin functions into drop-down menus and moving them to the right side of board and thread title headers would remove that top bar entirely on the front page.
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2005-10-17 13:10 ID:gBva8ggI
> Also, I'd like to ask exactly how Kareha does automatically generates deletion passwords. I'm guessing it's similar if not identical to how it creates ID session codes with a user's IP.
Actually, no, the Javascript just strings some random numbers and letters together.
> Because it's one of the two requirements for creating a new thread, and it's a lot more important to have a well-defined topic than to fill in your name.
But the body text is even more important, and that goes at the bottom. So I dunno.
>It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
Would it maybe make sense to make a separate thread creation page?
146 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 07:04 ID:Heaven
>does that mean you approve of removing the style selector on subpages?
I was referring to the entire board, but as you later explained, it seems it can never be removed completely. Though removing it from subpages wouldn't be a bad idea I guess.
>Kareha has no "No File" check in the first place
That's what I thought, but then why is it in the Reply pages?
Other: Have you considered multi-page links with intervals of 100 posts at the top of subpages (ie, 1-, 101-, 201-)? Red, bold thread filesizes displayed near the bottom of subpages?
Something else to consider: separating the board description/rules template from the board- or site-wide announcements. Check out http://0ch.mine.nu/test/read.cgi/jikken/1120050851 to see what I mean.
77 Name: 2005-10-17 09:10 ID:Heaven
> To more closely resemble the 2ch look, how about prefixing thread title headers in the main board page with a 【position:postcount】thingie?
I find the "1. Thread title (1000)" format much more readable in the post list. And for the main titles, I don't see any value is putting the position in there. That serves no discernable purpose.
> And as suggested before, the navigation links on the bottom of individual thread pages should include "Previous 100" (ie, all posts before the first post in the URL) and "Next 100" (ie, all posts after the last post in the URL).
They already do, but only if there are enough posts in the thread for this to make sense. Or, try a short range like 23-27 to see it in action.
> The "First 100" link should also be removed from the bottom of individual thread pages, and there should be a link to to thread-list included below the reply box of each previewed thread on the front page.
I've been wondering about the justifications for which navigation links should go where. 2ch has it pretty much worked out, I'm sure, but I don't quite see why there should be a "First 100" at the top but not at the bottom.
> Change "Del" links to widget buttons.
Would be very ugly. Those buttons are big.
> In order for the CSS selector not to take over the entire header, how about turning it into a drop-down menu?
I was meaning to do that from the start, but there was some problem with gettting it right. I forget what exactly.
> The same could be done with the Admin functions (appearing only after one correctly inputs the password), placing it on the right side of the board and thread title headers (this would also allow admins the convenience of deleting and permasaging threads from the front-page).
Squeeks would prefer to have a separate script for admining. I'm not sure which is the best approach here.
> and would something like this work (given that all boards share the same root directory)?
> >>>>sup/1129153864/1-100
> >>>1129153864/1-100
Maybe, but I don't see the value in adding code for this, given that you can just paste the URL in there.
> P.S. When you mentioned serving dynamic pages in >>46, were you referring to individual thread pages? As I mentioned before, it'd be nice to make the front page as dynamic and flexible as thread pages when it comes to viewing options (via PATH_INFO).
The front page gets lots of hits. This would drive up CPU usage something fierce.
> Oh, and please bring back MAX_LINES.
I still don't think it serves any useful purpose.
181 Name: 2005-10-20 06:39 ID:ReFmOAs0
The one with encoded Javascript that makes you post with fusianasan is cute.
225 Name: 214 2005-10-21 17:05 ID:Heaven
Okay then, for starters, how about the closing message to exactly look like a post (although it's sad it won't be accesable with >>1001)?
349 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-27 17:20 ID:Heaven
GDLib for thumbnails: http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1113869490/5
169 Name: 2005-10-19 19:04 ID:Heaven
How come this is now the by far biggest thread on this board?
Maybe it's because I'm posting useless replies like this one!
167 Name: 2005-10-19 18:55 ID:gBva8ggI
Oh:
> Getting back to inconsequential nitpicking: I find the "___ image replies omitted" phrase to be a bit redundant, and for one it confuses me as to whether or not those image replies are separate from text-only replies. How about simply calling it "images"?
Yes, that's a great idea, which is why I've always done just that. You're thinking of 4chan.
128 Name: 2005-10-18 17:00 ID:gBva8ggI
All right, new version installed. This one has a bunch of layout changes, and some big changes in the CSS, so you'll need to make sure the CSS is loaded by shift-reloading. Also, fixing all the CSS files was a huge pain in the ass. Have a look around to see if there are any obvious mistakes, but be gentle, because this has given me a headache.
Also, I couldn't be arsed to fix Amber, since it was just a joke in the first place.
290 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 19:44 ID:Heaven
Well, you have links now in the current incarnation. I would think that this kinda thing (Return link vs. Back button) would be common knowledge by now among regular Internet users.
117 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 04:04 ID:Heaven
>>116
Good question! I tried to find out myself but just found some interesting but rather unhelpful links:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/fusianasan
http://info.2ch.net/guide/faq.html#G5
http://ansitu.xrea.jp/guidance/?FAQ1
70 Name: dmpk2k!hinhT6kz2E 2005-10-17 07:49 ID:Heaven
>>69
The sage seems a bit off...
203 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-20 20:58 ID:Heaven
> It's not worth comparing until it doesn't break regularly.
The only problem with it is that it doesn't do paranoid file writes. The fact that the entire server occasionally breaks isn't related to how broken the script itself is.
199 Name: 2005-10-20 18:25 ID:Heaven
> Right, I guess it was dumb to mention 0ch/Futaba in the first place. The point is, as you said yourself, tripcodes are a gimmick, and if someone wants to maintain a persistent identity across multiple boards and sites (ie, everyone here with a tripcode), they have no choice but to use ordinary tripcodes. Secure tripcodes are useless because they limit your identity to a single board, supposing each board/site's cipher key is different -- which it should be, since that's the point of having a secure tripcode in the first place. No one should be so paranoid about a tripcode that they'd need to have a different one per board/site.
True, they're of limited usefulness, but people like admins might prefer to use them. And there are certain cases were you might use them temporarily for various purposes. I wrote the code already, so I might as well leave it in. It has some uses at least.
> Shouldn't we sacrifice some backwards compatibility for a more robust and scalable design? It might even be possible to provide an upgrade.pl for old threads.
I think I'm too lazy to do it. It's kind of hairy. Besides, as I said, you can remove a lot of the drawbacks of seprate installations by using symlinks.
67 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 06:47 ID:Heaven
The "Entire thread" link on the thread page is missing a "/" at the end.
153 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 13:16 ID:Heaven
>>152
What does that even mean? Does that mean nobody can come along and claim some sort of authorshop/copyright on Kareha or a slightly modified version of Kareha?
285 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 18:38 ID:Heaven
HTML mode handles >> references, but not URLs because I've been too lazy to figure out a regexp that would handle that correctly. Also, yes, newlines are converted to <br /> intentionally. This matches how most sites that accept HTML markup work.