> Making them configurable from site to site is really dumb, because it would create an unthinkable usability mess.
Why? Let people figure out things themselves, if they are so keen on changing their keywords. They can get together in their own webmaster threads and figure this out. I don't see why this should be solved here.
Of course I think this is a dumb idea in the first place. Nobody needs to know what fusianasan and sage are. Write a FAQ with two sentences about it and/or let your oldtime users tell newbies. Two frickin' words, and you people talk about it as if it were something like making up a new system of romanization!
> Then why not simply boil it all down to the comment field, with trigger strings for inputting the name, e-mail, sage, ID:Heaven, and fusianasan? You can get a lot more minimal with the current interface.
That's a bit too much. You want to talk about sage and fusianasan in the comment field, not trigger it with it.
I suspect you are joking here, though. Design is about what you can take away and still remain optimal conveniency/efficiency on the user part, not about taking as much away as you are technically capable of.
I think it'd be a better idea to have some kind of load-balancing/distributed server cluster approach, like what dmpk2k was working on for Wakaba.
> It would eliminate the concept of sageing as a protest entirely.
Except that nobody knows what's going on back-end.
I like the idea though.
I thought fusianasan was supposed to be a mod-only function to weed out bad posters. And what would be the difference between revealing the persons's IP and his ISP's domain?
>>99
I didn't mean to include Forcenick in there, sorry.
Adding to that, however, how about forced sage for specificed IPs? It'd make for a great slogan: Remember kids, tripcodes and aging are privileges, not rights!
> I don't understand the argument for OH NO ANOTHER BUTTON MY WHOLE LIFE IS RUINNED crowd
It's all a design & layout question. I'd like to have the interface reduced to what is absolutely neccessary, esp. since I do not think many people really want to even bother or bother very often with the whole markup question.
> The replacement will be an option to select the default markup for a board, which makes much more sense overall.
I agree, this seems to make the most sense. I understand the "More options..." will not be showing up on boards with fixed settings, so I'll shut my mouth from now on. Apologies to all who I've been bothering.
Kareha:
> Also, I couldn't be arsed to fix Amber, since it was just a joke in the first place.
Booo!
> who here finds enough use in the auto-expanding comment box to justify the annoyances when you click in or out of it?
I love that feature. Please don't remove it!
> I think the drop-in Style capability is fantastic-- but it just doesn't seem to play nice with the current 2ch page design.
plz 2 be keeping that feature too
The "Entire thread" link in the top navigation bar of the thread page is still broken.
>>360
Doesn't mean we can't have separate releases for special scripts. :)
Additionally, I'd like WakabaMark to be fixed somehow.
I don't know how, though. You know my resentments.
Finally, thanks for your fine work throughout all this time.
It is appreciated!
> Another topic: since dynamic pages eat up CPU in order to rebuild pages according to URL parameters, what would be the likelihood of the current dynamic thread subpages having a significantly adverse effect in this aspect if a board were to grow to 2ch-sized proportions?
The effect would be miniscule in comparison to the huge increase in bandwidth that would result from sending the entire static thread pages.
The "entire thread" link can easily be changes to link to the files in /res/ instead of going through the script, but that would make it somewhat less convenient when you want to consturct custom URLs, so I haven't done it.
> Also, let's put out a partition to kill secure tripcodes (unless they originated from 0ch/Futaba)
Why? Even if 0ch or Futaba implemented secure tripcodes, you wouldn't get the same secure tripcode there as on another board. That's the nature of the security.
> captcha (until we find a way to implement similar functionality without requiring it in the form of a GIF/PNG image)
That's even more non-sensical. Nobody on the entire internet has figured out a reasonable way to implement captcha except by using images, and the only boards that use them are image boards where you have to load images anyway. And finally, they aren't just there to annoy you, people do actually try to flood boards, and they are stopped by the captcha.
> And is there any practical way that Kareha can be modified to run multiple (even nested) boards in a single installation?
Not without doing a lot of changes throughout the code, and not without breaking current installations.
Additionally, I'd like WakabaMark to be fixed somehow.
I don't know how, though. You know my resentments.
Finally, thanks for your fine work throughout all this time.
It is appreciated!
>>275
Heh, I thought you had disabled it manually.
>The File field is almost never there.
Right, and when it isn't, the Formatting menu can still reside on the same line.
The error page in mode_message should more closely resemble that of 0ch (complete with "ERROR!" title).
n is implemented, but not for >> yet.
Also, >>1 is, as it is, only added to URLs of the form xx-yy and lxx. 2ch doesn't add >>1 for single-reply URLs, and if you're using commas, I figure you can add >>1 yourself if you want it. I'm not sure if this is the best behaviour, but that's how it works at the moment.
That is an interesting idea, and one that deserves some more thought.
> You still end up with no way to link the fusianasan post with the name/trip one without IDs enabled (unless the ID method is known and no secret data is used).
You'd figure that people who know what fusianasan is will also know how to trigger IDs.
> You spelled it fusiansan once.
So I misspelled one word once.
Sue me!
> Also, how is Kahera unrivaled when there are still large sites that are not running it? Shiichan is still on world4ch, Thorn on parts of wakachan for example.
Neither world4ch nor Pichan are by any means "large". Also, yes, as Shii said, their webmasters are stubborn.
> It's a link, it screams "Click me!".
There's something to be said about obsessive-compulsive... >.>;
Congratulations to 82.94.251.206!
So the subject line will look like this:
[username]<><>[unix timestamp from now]<>[content of comment box]<> <>[IP]
>>112
We already have the ID function, so why do we need such an egregious compromise of anonymity (and security) like voluntarily exposing your own IP?
Also, I'd like to ask exactly how Kareha does automatically generates deletion passwords. I'm guessing it's similar if not identical to how it creates ID session codes with a user's IP.
> Better to have a tick-box and explain to people why it is useful. Or an option for it.
Yes, an option. Because I think a tickbox is horrible.
This is a widely used system. There is a very low learning curve here. sage = does not bump thread when replying, that's all there is to know. People can then figure out why it is useful on their own.
And personally, I think sageing should be encouraged more (since the perceptions on it have been pretty much ruined by 4chan). So it helps that it stays in the E-Mail/Link field instead of being purged from the tickbox each time like Shiichan does (interestingly, 4chan's Futallaby does also purge "sage" if written in all minor letters).
If we must discuss Shiichan's bug (which I believe we don't): I like the one where it sometimes turns an existing thread at the end of the All thread list into a thread with no subject, creation date set as 31 Dec 1969: 19:00 and then set to -1 posts (!) - and when you post in it, you 0GET and your IP appears as the subject.
It's a brilliant, better than fusianasan! Try it out: http://dis.4chan.org/read.php/dis/1121735647/