How about adding a link to 2ch in footer.html called "2ch mode"?
Oh yeah, regarding the CSS selector: HTML dropdowns aren't styleable, and will look like shit. I'll look into using some other trickery for that, though.
And my post ist a good example for chosing the wrong markup :/
Wakaba:
>>294 Hey I like the new formatting bit. Should it collapse back down if you click away or if you click the "More options..." bit again, like the text box?
Just a thought. This setup is easier and more obvious than using the link field, with "AA" or "Wakabamark". BTW, I just realized that was a pun. Boo! Hiss! Not punny! :)
>5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
This is kinda what I had pushed for earlier in >>52. I think that separating the sage (aka, "don't bump"), fusianasan (aka, "show IP"), and ID:Heaven (aka, "no ID") functions from any particular post elements in the main scripts would be ideal for implementing Kareha in systems where inputting a certain string to trigger these functions is not intuitive (ie, every board outside of the 2ch/Futaba family). These trigger strings (S_DONTBUMP, S_SHOWIP, S_NOID) and their assignment to a certain form field input could be instead implemented individually in each template.
>2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
>3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
As I mentioned above, this would better work if they could be modified within each template in the list of string variable definitions.
>4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
I like this one, as far as saving name and e-mail inputs go. I occasionally browse 4-ch at school, and it'd be nice for just an option to clear cookies when you're done and don't want anyone else to use your name, e-mail, and deletion password.
What the hell is RENZOKU?
P.S. >>151 is RMS
>>Well, then you are out of luck, aren't you? So you want to enter your E-Mail but cannot because then the post wouldn't bump then? Solution: Write it in the comment field, problem fixed.
There is no reason to change well-known keywords for this or even turn this into a frustratingly unconvenient tickbox/checkbox.
Having a specific trigger to trigger ID would also work.
>discussion of only one comment box, then you couldn't talk about sage/fusianasan/whatever
You could only trigger the functions in a specific format, say
:link-sage
:name-blah#faggotlol commentI do not believe this was an actual request, but it is obviously possible and usable. Another way would be escaping keywords that you want to post.
> partition to kill secure tripcodes
Why? If you are going to get rid of secure tripcodes you should get rid of tripcodes by the same reasons. On another note, why have I seen partition instead of petition multiple times?
>So I misspelled one word once. Sue me!
My point was that it is unnesessarily obtuse, not nit-picking that you misspelled it.
>This is a widely used system. There is a very low learning curve here. sage = does not bump thread when replying, that's all there is to know. People can then figure out why it is useful on their own.
You would think there is a low learning curve, but that is not really the case. For example, on an imageboard, what effect do you have making a sage post (with no real content) with prune oldest and a permasage limit? What about prune oldest with a permasage limit that excludes sage replies?
>trigger replacements
I'm not sure what to replace sage with, if anything. Down certainly doesn't describe it (to me it implies the reverse of age, which is not the case). don't_bump or dont_bump? show_host or show_ip works for fusianasan imo... show_ID to trigger ID?
> some other trickery
I smell JavaScript coming in about >>90-120
Again, the list of tags allowed on that page don't correspond to what would be allowed in Kareha. Of course <img> tags wouldn't be allowed, for instance. This is just for testing the actual cleanup engine.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Isn't that already an option in the config?
> 5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
Strong oppose! I am of the (strong! lol) opinion that the current situation is the one working the best and also that it is widely accepted on almost all similiar board scripts (save for Shiichan and one obscure Japanese discussion board script that I once stumbled upon).
Previous discussion of this can be found here:
http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1102984488/
Again, the list of tags allowed on that page don't correspond to what would be allowed in Kareha. Of course <img> tags wouldn't be allowed, for instance. This is just for testing the actual cleanup engine.
That form just looks wrong with no title or clear separator, though. I might put in a title that is not the exact same as the button, though. Any suggestions?
The board title is inserted by template.pl, and rules.html is included after it.
> You still end up with no way to link the fusianasan post with the name/trip one without IDs enabled (unless the ID method is known and no secret data is used).
You'd figure that people who know what fusianasan is will also know how to trigger IDs.
> You spelled it fusiansan once.
So I misspelled one word once.
Sue me!
> Also, how is Kahera unrivaled when there are still large sites that are not running it? Shiichan is still on world4ch, Thorn on parts of wakachan for example.
Neither world4ch nor Pichan are by any means "large". Also, yes, as Shii said, their webmasters are stubborn.
...and admin posts that override all board/thread restrictions (ie, bumping a permasaged thread and possibly even posting in closed threads).
Oh, and "AA mode" should be changed to "Text art mode" so we won't be incessantly quibbling about the difference between ASCII and SJIS art.
> It would eliminate the concept of sageing as a protest entirely.
Except that nobody knows what's going on back-end.
I like the idea though.
> That's what I thought, but then why is it in the Reply pages?
Er, that's a bug I guess.
> 1) rename the RENZOKU constants to something that makes sense
I dunno, they're pretty useless anyway, as has been pointed out, so I don't know if I care enough to change them.
> 2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
I dunno, if different boards use different strings, that will only make for immense confusion.
> 3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
Well, the only string that makes sense is sage, but yes, I should implement the Heaven-on-sage behaviour.
> 4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
Maybe, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort (I'd have to implement a preferences page for it, too).
>>178
There will always be pranksters around. This is probably a good example on what matters to trust tripcoders more than anonymous contributors.
Trivia: Here is a list of 2ch kopipe to fool people into using fusianasan:
http://ansitu.xrea.jp/guidance/?fusianasan
The one with encoded Javascript that makes you post with fusianasan is cute.
Why would there be any use in writing actual HTML in posts? Seems to me like it's just inviting abuse.
> people like admins might prefer to use them
but they have capcodes now...
> The Title field should go above the Name and Link fields in 2ch mode.
Why should it?
> From every practical standpoint, the current solution in Kareha is a lot more convenient
It's more convenient if you want to start a new thread, but for those who don't it's one more form to have to scroll by.
> Futaba now uses "..." instead of ">>>" to prefix repy blocks.
Any idea why?
>>69
The sage seems a bit off...
>>313 Like lots of people use them anyway </sarcasm>. Yes, security is a good idea. What are the holes, anyway?