The Legendary Next Update (365)
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2005-10-17 09:10 ID:Heaven
> To more closely resemble the 2ch look, how about prefixing thread title headers in the main board page with a 【position:postcount】thingie?
I find the "1. Thread title (1000)" format much more readable in the post list. And for the main titles, I don't see any value is putting the position in there. That serves no discernable purpose.
> And as suggested before, the navigation links on the bottom of individual thread pages should include "Previous 100" (ie, all posts before the first post in the URL) and "Next 100" (ie, all posts after the last post in the URL).
They already do, but only if there are enough posts in the thread for this to make sense. Or, try a short range like 23-27 to see it in action.
> The "First 100" link should also be removed from the bottom of individual thread pages, and there should be a link to to thread-list included below the reply box of each previewed thread on the front page.
I've been wondering about the justifications for which navigation links should go where. 2ch has it pretty much worked out, I'm sure, but I don't quite see why there should be a "First 100" at the top but not at the bottom.
> Change "Del" links to widget buttons.
Would be very ugly. Those buttons are big.
> In order for the CSS selector not to take over the entire header, how about turning it into a drop-down menu?
I was meaning to do that from the start, but there was some problem with gettting it right. I forget what exactly.
> The same could be done with the Admin functions (appearing only after one correctly inputs the password), placing it on the right side of the board and thread title headers (this would also allow admins the convenience of deleting and permasaging threads from the front-page).
Squeeks would prefer to have a separate script for admining. I'm not sure which is the best approach here.
> and would something like this work (given that all boards share the same root directory)?
> >>>>sup/1129153864/1-100
> >>>1129153864/1-100
Maybe, but I don't see the value in adding code for this, given that you can just paste the URL in there.
> P.S. When you mentioned serving dynamic pages in >>46, were you referring to individual thread pages? As I mentioned before, it'd be nice to make the front page as dynamic and flexible as thread pages when it comes to viewing options (via PATH_INFO).
The front page gets lots of hits. This would drive up CPU usage something fierce.
> Oh, and please bring back MAX_LINES.
I still don't think it serves any useful purpose.
305 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-24 12:04 ID:Heaven
> You don't see the link to the WakabaMark page either?
Nope... ?
> There's just a tiny little link there to let people do this. Is this really a such a huge bother to deal with? It's two words.
It's a link, it screams "Click me!". Most people don't need it most of the time, still it'll be there all of the time. How about style:none or something?
And sorry for being annoying. Strong opinions and all, no offense.
144 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 01:11 ID:Heaven
Thanks for the links at the top. Previously, I had to search for those threads over and over again if I wanted to find them.
122 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 06:32 ID:Heaven
About the etyomology of "fusianasan":
http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1102656968/224-
2 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-12 16:25 ID:hjzD4Li4
How about listing what dmpk2k or you have done already?
- Split threads and posts into separate tables. You're repeating the lasthit and parent column over and over.
220 Name: 2005-10-21 15:45 ID:Heaven
Kareha can't use different layouts for posts on different pages, except by CSS trickery. I could add the second colon, though.
Also, I've implemented optional thread closing now, but there's no extra post. That would just be a total mess to implement, and would make re-opening threads annoying, if such a feature was requested. It replaces the posting form with a notice that the thread has been closed, instead.
169 Name: 2005-10-19 19:04 ID:Heaven
How come this is now the by far biggest thread on this board?
Maybe it's because I'm posting useless replies like this one!
312 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-24 18:15 ID:Heaven
Not getting quote highlighting is the point, isn't it? I guess if you really want WakabaMark to spread you can force it on everyone who doesn't know how to change, but it would be nicer to make people choose it so we don't have to constantly see the results of accidental markup. This is more about social engineering than your program, though.
353 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-28 09:06 ID:Heaven
That's a Firefox bug.
90 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-17 13:23 ID:Heaven
> Would it maybe make sense to make a separate thread creation page?
Considering that the ratio of users who start new threads to those who don't is pretty small on most message boards, I think it does.
A seperate page could also be used to put a more visible disclaimer/set of rules, as a seperate page with a different layout is likely to generate more attention from the user. Stuff that can be put there also wouldn't clutter up the frontpage.
I don't think this is an urgent matter, though.
294 Name: !WAHa.06x36 : 2005-10-23 20:38 ID:Heaven
You don't see the link to the WakabaMark page either?
> I am just guessing here, but I am pretty sure most people will only change their settings in very rare cases.
I just added the Text Art mode so that people could post AA on any board and have it work right, but the only way for that to work is if you can quickly change modes between posts.
Look, it's getting just a tiny bit annoying with the complaining. I've been putting a huge amount of effort into making this work well both for those who want markup and those who don't. If you don't like it, you turn it off and don't need to bother with it again. There's just a tiny little link there to let people do this. Is this really a such a huge bother to deal with? It's *two words*.
170 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 19:23 ID:Heaven
>There's no one English word that does the job of the pseudo-Japanese "sage".
How about "dontbump" or "nobump"? Using "down" is pretty misleading, since sage doesn't bump a thread up nor down; it just stays in its place until a thread below is bumped.
>>167 orz
In reference WAHa's post in http://wakaba.c3.cx/sup/kareha.pl/1127713568/l50
>It's been suggested to change the no-ID-on-email to no-ID-on-sage
That sounds good to me.
159 Name: 2005-10-19 14:46 ID:gBva8ggI
Copyright only applies to the literal code, not to features, ideas, or algorithm. Patents do, to some extent, but that's not the issue here. Since I'm not going to write the exact same code, there's little they can do.
224 Name: 2005-10-21 16:59 ID:Heaven
A 1001th post would be a bother.
55 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-16 10:35 ID:Heaven
>>54
I really don't understand what the problem with the current system is. You must be confused. ┐('～`；)┌
122 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-18 06:32 ID:Heaven
About the etyomology of "fusianasan":
http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1102656968/224-
364 Post deleted by moderator.
159 Name: 2005-10-19 14:46 ID:gBva8ggI
Copyright only applies to the literal code, not to features, ideas, or algorithm. Patents do, to some extent, but that's not the issue here. Since I'm not going to write the exact same code, there's little they can do.
358 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-31 12:45 ID:QLQI2pST
...and admin posts that override all board/thread restrictions (ie, bumping a permasaged thread and possibly even posting in closed threads).
271 Name: Anonymous : 2005-10-23 16:32 ID:Heaven
Did you ditch customizable capcodes?
How about placing the Formatting menu to the left or right of the "File: " field? I'd also like to see WakabaMark changed to its real name (Markdown).
A few other considerations:
- Using "◆" as the default tripkey character.
- No need for the "Navigation: " text before the navigation links in subpages
- In Pseud0ch, post numbers should be the same size/format as the rest of the header text
- I'm still thinking that subback should be as minimal as possible: no navlinks, title, or last post/filesize data. Then again, I'm from the school of following 0ch blindly.
- Variable admin permissions per password
- Is the Admin bar gonna come back before the final version?
Small details aside, this is seriously shaping up to be an amazing release. Your efforts are much appreciated, WAHa.
154 Name: Anonymous 2005-10-19 13:28 ID:1l2MEdqn
>5) Seperation of sage et al from the email field to something else...
This is kinda what I had pushed for earlier in >>52. I think that separating the sage (aka, "don't bump"), fusianasan (aka, "show IP"), and ID:Heaven (aka, "no ID") functions from any particular post elements in the main scripts would be ideal for implementing Kareha in systems where inputting a certain string to trigger these functions is not intuitive (ie, every board outside of the 2ch/Futaba family). These trigger strings (S_DONTBUMP, S_SHOWIP, S_NOID) and their assignment to a certain form field input could be instead implemented individually in each template.
>2) Have the string to sage and fusianasan defined as a constant in config
>3) A specific string for ID:Heaven instead of anything in the email field
As I mentioned above, this would better work if they could be modified within each template in the list of string variable definitions.
>4) Cookie preferences such as "Don't use expanding textarea" which leaves it small or big.. or another option for that choice as well; an option to not save Name/Email automatically; anything else that is useful?
I like this one, as far as saving name and e-mail inputs go. I occasionally browse 4-ch at school, and it'd be nice for just an option to clear cookies when you're done and don't want anyone else to use your name, e-mail, and deletion password.
What the hell is RENZOKU?
P.S. >>151 is RMS