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The "what now?" feeling

Anyone else getting that "what now?" feeling with ykk ended? Been watching ARIA and plan to get the manga but still I have that "what now?" feeling.

In fact my whole life has been like that. Finished lots of anime series, beaten all of my offline games. I've Seen my favorite MMORPG Asheron's Call 2 close with nothing but sadness in my heart and now am just stand going "what now?". None of the other MMO games I play capture my heart like it did.

Looking for a new game to inhabit but nothing captures my heart. An anime/manga to grab my soul. Maybe it just because who I am, where I can't sit still for a second, always moving forward in something. Have to be constantly doing something that gabs my attentions and imagination or I fall into a slump and have trouble getting out of it.

Hating "The End" deep down in my soul because I know if I stop, find an end, I have trouble moving beyond it to the new beginning.

- Miah
Friday, March 10, 2006

The calm days of YKK now scatter like the shadows beneath sunbeams.

I never really thought Ashinano-san would end it, and I thought there would be more of the story to tell. Instead, full circuit.

But this feels right.

Let's wish him well and send our thanks for a heartful journey we've all enjoyed.


- seaweb
Saturday, March 11, 2006

To me,this ending was a sledgehammer to the nuts. There's an absurd amount of loose ends, and Kokone moving in reeked of pandering.
Sorry, I'm bitter. I can't believe Asinano pulled a Rumiko Takahashi ending on me...

- Z
Monday, March 13, 2006

The ending is one of the most abrupt ones I have ever seen. It felt like a large fast freight train coming to stop by crashing into the end stops spraying loose ends everywhere.

The only author I know of to routinely end his books so abruptly is Neal Stephenson, his books "ends" without feeling it is the end leaving frustrated readers to hammer through the back pages and back cover looking for something resembling an end or a sequel.

- C_P
Friday, March 17, 2006

> The ending is one of the most abrupt ones I have ever seen.

I didn't consider it that abrupt, it was on the cards as soon as it switched from near real-time to jumping years between chapters. Admittedly, there's a lot of loose ends, but who knows, maybe Ashinano is cleaning them up in his next serial, or maybe it's best for the audience to ponder over it at their leisure.

> The only author I know of to routinely end his books so abruptly is Neal Stephenson...

I know what you mean. Seems like he runs out of steam, then decides to end it quick so he can get onto the next book. Seems epidemic these days to have good concepts, bad execution.

- PC
Friday, March 17, 2006

I've said it before, but I'll say it again here: The ending has been a long time in the coming, if you've been paying proper attention. Sometime after chapter 100 you could feel the story starting to change, and in the 120s it got a lot more obvious, and in the 130s really blatant. The big time skips were what confirmed it was ending, not what revealed it. Try re-reading those chapters, and you really ought to notice it.

And for the record, I've never had a problem with Neal Stephenson's book endings.

- WAHa.06x36
Friday, March 24, 2006

Hmm... I've gotten used to this, it's fine by me, really.

Despite of the readers' feedback in Japan,(this is what they do in tankoubons right? The less popular manga in ranking will get eliminated eventually, so, probably, YKK is in the last ranking and Ashinano had to finish it quickly) Ashinano did his best to finish YKK to end's meet, that is a hard thing to do and I am grateful that Ashinano picks an ending that actually will be the same even if YKK goes further and ends in the later days.(Yeah, this is right, YKK will eventually come to this no matter how long it goes on right?)

Besides, if YKK goes further, the story will bring in the facts that Ashinano and us would not want to be fitted in YKK. For example, the dusking of humanity, or the world eventually. Even if Alpha able to live in that kind of world, this shouldn't be showed as it might effect the readers with lower psychology barriers and isn't even the focus of YKK actually.

What's important is that YKK has given all the messages it able to give, if we want more, probably we should look elsewhere, or in his newer works if he does any later.

Besides, I've always lived in a way not to be affected so much by my surroundings(I believe this is how Ashinano lives his life) yet, not influenced much by them, we are actually very caring guys, so we look around at the people and their each own's stories, how they start, how they go and how they end.

It's enjoyable, to say honestly. Wether they live a good life or a bad one, the most important thing is that they're able to go on. How sad they are isn't important, as this is reality and everything needs to be taken into account. This is how YKK became a fun read. Don't believe me? >_' d

- Jax
Saturday, March 25, 2006

> Despite of the readers' feedback in Japan [...]

What exactly was the feedback like? I don't think I heard about it before.

- C_P
Friday, March 31, 2006


I think the brutal culling only happens for relatively new series. After a series has survived for a number of years, I imagine that it has developed a core fan base big enough to keep it around. Look at Shadow Skill, that manga is always in the last 10% of the book, but it has stayed around for years.

I don't think Ashinano-sensei was forced out. I think he just wanted to move on to different things.



- dDave
Friday, March 31, 2006

Just curious, but is there any news about Ashinano's next work.

Also, are there any plans to translate it?

- Michael Duitsman
Friday, March 31, 2006


No information is currently known about Ashinano-san's next work.

The elves have expressed a high level of interest in working on Ashinano-sensei's next work.



- dDave
Friday, March 31, 2006

cafealpha.org has been offline for two days now. Any news from the elves?

- David R
Wednesday, April 5, 2006



Works fine for me. Is anyone else having trouble?



- dDave
Wednesday, April 5, 2006

Sorry dDave no go on my end. Better check things over there.

- Christine K.
Wednesday, April 5, 2006


Odd. Still working for me. Http and ftp too. I'm sure it's not a caching issue on my browser, as I just checked it with a browser I've never used to visit Cafe Alpha before. I wonder if there is some weird router outage on the net somewhere.



- dDave
Wednesday, April 5, 2006

It is working fine for me too...

- DavidF
Thursday, April 6, 2006

hmmmm...the only new manga i read since ykk ended, was "show me the money" a comedy/rmance manga with only 2 bolumes.

very funny.

- mr.aufziehvogel
Thursday, April 6, 2006

Whaaaa! What now?

I'd been "out of it" for a little while when I was paging through my copy of volume 13 and saying, "hey, I need to see if I've missed any new chapters" (the last I'd read was "everybody ships")

Imagine my shock and sorrow. :(

I'm just grateful as all heck that someone mentioned this manga in a letter column over at www.gameforms.com (long since defunct) or I would probably have never stumbled upon it on my own. Ever.

Oh well, it had a nice long run and will be missed. I picture that by chapter 140 everyone non-robotic we ever met has died. Alpha and Kokone will live together until every one else has died (except for the ones on that plane) and then they'll go insane like only robots can and build huge scooter-shaped mechas and fight each other in the ruins of humanity.

Actually, I'm a little sad about this in the same way I was sad about "End of Evangelion" if that makes any sense.

- Mezrabad
Monday, April 24, 2006

You hit on something very important there, and I think that's what drew me to this manga. It is indeed that 'mono no aware' feeling that certain series contain--Evangelion is a prime example of it.
It's such an overpoweringly bittersweet feeling, like nothing I've encountered before.
I think the way it ends, much like EVA, is left up to your own interpretation--what's happened has happened, and nothing will change the fact, all that's left for us to do is think about those events and consider the future.

- Midnight
Sunday, June 18, 2006

>I picture that by chapter 140 everyone non-robotic we ever met has died.


The shopkeeper seen in page 9 of chapter 140 was much older than Takahiro, and he's still around at the end. I don't remember the exact chapter number, but he was introduced early on (as a young man).

Takahiro and Makki should still be around, and Ayase is most likely still living at that time. Shiba should also still be living.

- Silver
Sunday, June 18, 2006

In the end I don't think mankinds dieing out. You see a new child at the very end and their are children once in a while threw the series,

I get more the feeling mankind population has stablized. It is a small but stable population and mankind has basicly gone into a retirement. Not dieing off but at a point where people are happy and content where they are. They probably just stay like that till the sun dies the planet becomes a cinder. To bad the robots don't seem to be be being produced/reproducing.

Then again the airship seems to be very advanced technology, maybe they found a way to stablize the sun long ago and mankind just on a eternal retirement. They did what they were going to and now it time to sit back and let the kids and the rest of the universe take over while they watch with a cup of coffee in their hands.

As far as "what now", I've found my new place moved to Aria, it's not YKK but a awesome series in it's own right, this second season is good and it's know it'll got up to 26 eps.

Just to bad there isn't a place like this for it. This forums and website are perfectly in tune with the YKK and aria feel. Kind of older in feel and looks but with the background hint of technology. Minimalistic living, a nice happy balance.

- Miah
Wednesday, June 21, 2006

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