Goodnight,
I was just wondering, in one of the chapters (I can't remember exactly which one), Sensei was speaking to Kokone about one of the prototype androids, and mentioning the fact how "She hates wearing Clothes"....put this together with the fact that the Misago never ages (plus is "in-humanly" fast!)...could she be the original Alpha model/prototype?
Great comic, thanks for the translation, its a shame it hasn't officially been marketed in the US yet.
Cheers,
Xavier.
- Xavier Roberts
Friday, November 12, 2004
I don't think so because if you look at the first pannel of page 49 in volume 4 you'll notice that Director Alpha wears a necklace with a distinctive pendant on it.
http://ykk.misago.org/Volume4/49.html
A little later on in the second pannel of page 149 of volume 6 you'll notice that Ashinano makes it a point to focus in on the pendant that the young Sensei is wearing.
http://ykk.misago.org/Volume6/149
This pendant is one in the same as the one Director Alpha wears which seems to connect her to Sensei. In her chat with Kokone she mentions that the prototype she cared for was taken back again. Plus she shares a name with the Alpha we've come to know and love and like her hasn't changed her name like the others did. Maybe she went through some sort of training but that pendant does seem to be the one thing that connects Director Alpha to Sensei
- Christine K
Friday, November 12, 2004
It's all right about necklace, besides Sensei already told that prototype "told her first joke, still not able to blink properly" Misago not talks, obviously. But... Ashinano isn't that straightforward to give us all information for analysis. You can't be sure almost in anything =)
F.e. sensei can have a secret about her second android, who IS Dir.Alpha, or maybe Misago on the other hand...
Aargh!
Dont bother with it. Just enjoy and wait. Wait and enjoy...
Atmosphere is the key...
zzzzz....
- Drake
Saturday, November 13, 2004
Is Ashinano straightforward? It depends on how you define the term, really. He's obviously left a lot of things unsaid as he's told the story, to be addressed later or perhaps forever left for reader interpretation. But when something's actually been said or even strongly hinted at, I can't recall it ever being misleading or contradicted. It's a setting with a lot of mysteries, but it's never seemed to be one of red herrings save for the ones the readers create for themselves.
The pendant, the chapter titles referencing her as the M1, even what can be seen of the prototype's look and behavior in Sensei's flashback - thos seem to paint a clear picture of what happened. Can there be other robots Sensei has looked after? Possibly, but I doubt it...her mention of how "a very long time later I learned another robot was living near here" seems to indicate that the two Alphas were the only robots she'd spent much time with.
As for whether Misago is a robot? I doubt that very strongly, and would be quite suprised if the manga gave any future evidence that it was the case. There have been indications that the "natural" oddities in the setting are just that, the earth itself reacting in this time of gentle change, whether forming new things in memory of homans or creating them for some reason not yet explained. And so far as I know, while the A7 series has been presented as the spiritual creation of humanity, as the children of humanity they have all lived human lives. There's been no real indication that humans created any of the other beings that seem to live outside the human experience, and to take them at face value seems to most fit with the setting.
- Kunou-chan
Sunday, November 28, 2004
It seems that the Misago is not a robot, Owner says that he saw her as a boy, and Owner is an important man and is assumed to be at least middle-aged. There doesn't seem to be enough time between Sensei working on the prototype robots as a young woman and Owner being a boy for a robot to be built and then allowed to go feral.
Also, Ayase specifically says she is not a robot because the legend is older than the robots.
I myself am hoping that a robot DID escape and settle down in the bay when owner was a boy, and by coincidence or design lives in a similar manner to the legend. Director Alpha's behavior as a "toddler" gave me hope that this might be the case. ^_^
-k
curious
- Kempis Curious
Monday, November 29, 2004
I think that Misago is something else, not a robot. Just look at that jump in vol.3 p.126! No way Alpha or even Maruko able to do such a feat =).
Besides, she doesn't have a earclips - maybe she lost it somewhere? I wonder if she a earlier prototype, A6 or A5... Or "fungy creature"... uuuh!
- Drake
Monday, November 29, 2004
Is Ashinano straightforward? It depends on how you define the term, really. He's obviously left a lot of things unsaid as he's told the story, to be addressed later or perhaps forever left for reader interpretation. But when something's actually been said or even strongly hinted at, I can't recall it ever being misleading or contradicted. It's a setting with a lot of mysteries, but it's never seemed to be one of red herrings save for the ones the readers create for themselves.
The pendant, the chapter titles referencing her as the M1, even what can be seen of the prototype's look and behavior in Sensei's flashback - thos seem to paint a clear picture of what happened. Can there be other robots Sensei has looked after? Possibly, but I doubt it...her mention of how "a very long time later I learned another robot was living near here" seems to indicate that the two Alphas were the only robots she'd spent much time with.
As for whether Misago is a robot? I doubt that very strongly, and would be quite suprised if the manga gave any future evidence that it was the case. There have been indications that the "natural" oddities in the setting are just that, the earth itself reacting in this time of gentle change, whether forming new things in memory of homans or creating them for some reason not yet explained. And so far as I know, while the A7 series has been presented as the spiritual creation of humanity, as the children of humanity they have all lived human lives. There's been no real indication that humans created any of the other beings that seem to live outside the human experience, and to take them at face value seems to most fit with the setting.
- Kunou-chan
Tuesday, November 30, 2004
Sorry, I had that sitting in my Firefox hisory for three days, and when I hit Back too many times it reposted.
- Kunou-chan
Tuesday, November 30, 2004
Hmm, it seems that I was wrong supposing that Misago is an A7M0 model, but one thing is still confusing me. It's Alfa's obsession with the fish, and then Misago seems to be living on the fish only...
- Noro
Tuesday, December 21, 2004
Howdy,
While there is no way to be certain, it's possible that it's just co-incidence.
Best,
Dave
- dDave
Tuesday, December 21, 2004
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