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35 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2005-07-21 08:24 ID:a2+XQ/cp [Del]

I got curious and Googled a bit for further discussion on this topic, and found this (on site that is apparently now dead, so only the Google cache exists):

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:D1D5bvkAPLUJ:www.animetoshokan.org/bbs/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D292%26view%3Dgetlastpost&hl=en

The part I found most interesting were the quotes that person had gathered and translated. I'll cut-and-paste them here to preserve them. Many thanks to Akadai Shirou for doing this work:

What Japanese think about this

These are quotes straight from the Japanese, translated, pulled from numerous sources.

どうやら、日本語の「変態」の意味のPervertやKinkyという意味は少なくて、単にHなアニメとかをいうみたいです。
It seems they rarely mean the Japanese meaning of 変態, Pervert or Kinky, but rather they are using it just to mean any H anime

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外国人に「HENTAI」と言う言葉を広めた奴を捜しています!!!懸賞金$1,000,000−
I'm looking for the guy that spread the word 'HENTAI' among the foreigners!!! $1,000,000 reward

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海外のオタク系が日本製のアダルトアニメやゲームを表す言葉。
Definition: Word used by foreign fanboys to mean Japanese adult animation and games

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ちなみにエロゲーはHENTAI GAMEとか書いてあった。・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・なんかやなカンジ。
By the way, [in U.S. video game magazines] they call [Japanese] adult games HENTAI GAME...................... that sounds awful

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HENTAIとは成年コミックや18禁美少女ゲーム、アダルトアニメをさす
HENTAI is used [by foreigners] to indicate adult comics, games, and animation

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外国の HENTAI サイトをうろうろと見て歩いていたら・・・なんだか気分が悪くなってしまった(苦笑)。
 なんて言うか・・・独特の雰囲気があるよね。

 ちなみに HENTAI というのは、日本の漫画、アニメ、ゲームなどのえっちなメディアを指すらしい。
 日本人の俺としては、やっぱり抵抗があるなぁ(笑)。

 他人が描いたCGや市販ゲームのCGを無断で転載して、ギャラリーで御座い・・・というサイトが実に多い。
 うーん、この辺は基本的な考え方が違うのかな。
 節操の無い連中だ・・・という印象を強く感じるね(笑)。

I went looking around at those foreign HENTAI sites... and kinda I just got sick.
What can I say...they have a 'unique' atmosphere.

'HENTAI' is what they use to indicate Japanese manga, animation, games, etc. when they have etchi content.
Speaking as a Japanese person, I have to say that's pretty disturbing.(laugh)

There's a ton of sites that just copy other people's illustrations and rip images out of games, then display them in a gallery.
I guess their entire way of thinking is different from ours?
I get a strong impression of a total lack of civility and morals. (laugh)

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H(えっち)
 「性交」を意味する若者用語。
 実は「HENTAI(変態)」の頭文字から来ている。

 海外の濃いOTAKUたちの間ではHではなくECCHIと表記される。
 それに対して事情通のOTAKUが「ECCHIはHENTAIのイニシャルなんだから、Hと書くのが正しい!」と啓蒙運動を行っている。
 その様な日本人も知らないような知識を、どこから得たのか非常に謎である。
 てゆーか、正しかろうと間違ってようと、あんまそんな日本語を世界に広めないで欲しい。

H (etchi)
Word used by young people to mean sexual intercourse.
It actually comes from the first letter in the word HENTAI(変態).

Among the hard-core foreign OTAKU, they write it 'ECCHI' instead of 'H'.
Acting against this are a group of other OTAKU familiar with the etymology of the word who go around saying "ECCHI is just the initial for HENTAI, so you're supposed to write it H!" in an attempt to enlighten everyone.
How they learned that sort of trivia that not even Japanese people know is a complete mystery.
More importantly than that, regardless of whether they're getting it right or not, I'd rather they didn't go spreading the usage of that sort of Japanese

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お名前:天狼星
<・#65310;BAKAとかHENTAIとかOTAKUって言葉を教え
てるのは誰ですか? 知人じゃないことを祈ります(苦笑) いや・・ HENTAIは
すでに日本語じゃなくなってるか? 日本製の萌え系エロ絵なんかをさす言葉だし;

Name: Tenrousei
[...]Who taught these people to say BAKA and HENTAI and OTAKU and such?
I'm praying it wasn't anybody I know. (pained smile) Actually, it seems like HENTAI
isn't even Japanese anymore, you know? The use it to mean Japanese drawn cute erotic illustrations and all

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さて、このポルノアニメというジャンルには、animeよりももっとこの世界で一般的になってしまっているらしい驚くべき名称がつけられている。 HENTAI、というのだ・・! 「エッチ」という語がそもそもなぜ使われるようになったのか、常識だと思っていたら案外知らない人もいるらしいので、余計なことかもしれないが言っておけば、この「変態HENTAI」の頭文字なのである。初期に日本の「エッチアニメ」を取り入れた人が妙に律儀だったらしく、略語をちゃんとオリジナルに展開して使用した模様である。売り文句には「JAPANESE KAWAII HENTAI」とあったりする。可愛い変態、である。やれやれ。

Now, this genre of porno animation is known to the world not by the word ANIME but by the surprising name 'HENTAI.' The source of the word 'etchi,' -- while I thought most people knew it, apparently some don't, so I'll go ahead and say it here -- is the first letter in the word 変態 (HENTAI). Early on, when Japan's etchi anime was first taken in by foreigners, they apparently were trying to be weirdly faithful linguistically and restored the abbreviation to its original form before using it. You can see the phrase 'JAPANESE KAWAII HENTAI' used in advertising phrases. Cute perversion! Man...

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